[yutgjctguc]

Because my gun was already out

Why am I even involved to this PR then? Makes no sense

For agreeing to come with 2 shotguns over a $250 fine - failrp, this would never happen in real life or in the game usually. You wouldnt risk such a pricey gun over a $250 fine

1. I didnt know about the fine
Maybe you should ask what exactly is going on before coming with a big shotgun?
With a big shotgun in my back? You wouldnt most likely listen to me in that situation

2. I can take risks ICly if I want, but the main point was that boshine did need help.
Bringing a $8000 shotgun (2) to someone being fined $250 would be failrp in my opinion
In YOUR opinion, and I had 1 shotgun

3. Why didnt you follow my orders, if you did no-one wouldnt get hurt. I was just about to tell you go away.
Because i had a gun and had additionals around the area near by me doing other traffic stops that would get a quick response
I also had a gun

[Vimpto]

Why am I even involved to this PR then? Makes no sense

For agreeing to come with 2 shotguns over a $250 fine - failrp, this would never happen in real life or in the game usually. You wouldnt risk such a pricey gun over a $250 fine

1. I didnt know about the fine
Maybe you should ask what exactly is going on before coming with a big shotgun?
With a big shotgun in my back? You wouldnt most likely listen to me in that situation
As in through radio, considering your using 'secret ways of contact' boshine could easily say through radio 'why am i being fined $250 officer'

2. I can take risks ICly if I want, but the main point was that boshine did need help.
Bringing a $8000 shotgun (2) to someone being fined $250 would be failrp in my opinion
In YOUR opinion, and I had 1 shotgun
There was another guy with me, and my opinion isn't always false

3. Why didnt you follow my orders, if you did no-one wouldnt get hurt. I was just about to tell you go away.
Because i had a gun and had additionals around the area near by me doing other traffic stops that would get a quick response
I also had a gun
Cool

[Night]

Was there any indication from the officer on scene that a fine would be issued?

[Vimpto]

Yes, i said i would fine boshine $250 for speeding, at which point he refused to get out and used this 'secret' code and then i was stormed with 2 shotgunners

[yutgjctguc]

For agreeing to come with 2 shotguns over a $250 fine - failrp, this would never happen in real life or in the game usually. You wouldnt risk such a pricey gun over a $250 fine

1. I didnt know about the fine
Maybe you should ask what exactly is going on before coming with a big shotgun?
With a big shotgun in my back? You wouldnt most likely listen to me in that situation
As in through radio, considering your using 'secret ways of contact' boshine could easily say through radio 'why am i being fined $250 officer'
That is boshines thing, so its not really my problem. But he doesnt have to say that if he doesnt want.

2. I can take risks ICly if I want, but the main point was that boshine did need help
Bringing a $8000 shotgun (2) to someone being fined $250 would be failrp in my opinion
In YOUR opinion, and I had 1 shotgun
There was another guy with me, and my opinion isn't always false
I didnt say your opinion is false, but I personally think I can take risks icly if I want

3. Why didnt you follow my orders, if you did no-one wouldnt get hurt. I was just about to tell you go away.
Because i had a gun and had additionals around the area near by me doing other traffic stops that would get a quick response
I also had a gun
Cool
Yes very cool

[yutgjctguc]

Yes, i said i would fine boshine $250 for speeding, at which point he refused to get out and used this 'secret' code and then i was stormed with 2 shotgunners

I dont understand what is wrong using "secret" codes. And why didnt you use ram if he didnt follow orders? And btw we just came there and I told you to let him go and put your hands up, and you shot me first, thats why I started shooting you, should I like just stand there until you kill me?

[Vimpto]

Yes, i said i would fine boshine $250 for speeding, at which point he refused to get out and used this 'secret' code and then i was stormed with 2 shotgunners

I dont understand what is wrong using "secret" codes. And why didnt you use ram if he didnt follow orders? And btw we just came there and I told you to let him go and put your hands up, and you shot me first, thats why I started shooting you, should I like just stand there until you kill me?

Im not complaining about you killing me, imcomplaining you thought it was a good idea to come with a shotgun to a situation that you had no context on apart from boshines secret message that didnt state all the facts

[Night]

If he was under gunpoint, then radio shouldn't of been activated. Could of been roleplayed out by the use of /me and /roll, but that didn't happen.

I'll review and conclude tonight. Any other opinions of those involved should be posted in the meantime.

[yutgjctguc]

Yes, i said i would fine boshine $250 for speeding, at which point he refused to get out and used this 'secret' code and then i was stormed with 2 shotgunners

I dont understand what is wrong using "secret" codes. And why didnt you use ram if he didnt follow orders? And btw we just came there and I told you to let him go and put your hands up, and you shot me first, thats why I started shooting you, should I like just stand there until you kill me?

Im not complaining about you killing me, imcomplaining you thought it was a good idea to come with a shotgun to a situation that you had no context on apart from boshines secret message that didnt state all the facts
Should boshine tell all the facts in the radio? Like I mentioned above, I can take risks ICly if I want. The main purpose was saving Boshine, not to kill you. If i recall correctly he didnt ever mention it was a cop in there. 

[Vimpto]

Yes, i said i would fine boshine $250 for speeding, at which point he refused to get out and used this 'secret' code and then i was stormed with 2 shotgunners

I dont understand what is wrong using "secret" codes. And why didnt you use ram if he didnt follow orders? And btw we just came there and I told you to let him go and put your hands up, and you shot me first, thats why I started shooting you, should I like just stand there until you kill me?

Im not complaining about you killing me, imcomplaining you thought it was a good idea to come with a shotgun to a situation that you had no context on apart from boshines secret message that didnt state all the facts
Should boshine tell all the facts in the radio? Like I mentioned above, I can take risks ICly if I want. The main purpose was saving Boshine, not to kill you. If i recall correctly he didnt ever mention it was a cop in there. 

You cant take risks ICly that are completely unrealistic. You said boshine said 'why would i bring a gun to inner shell' in radio but you choose to just come jump out with shotguns without asking whats going on? 

Think about it, if you wher egetting fined $60 (about the equivilent of $250 in cityrp) would you really risk your life, expensive gun and all that stuff instead of handing over $60?

[ToiletWater]

Was there any indication from the officer on scene that a fine would be issued?

No, he never spoke of a fine.

[Vimpto]

Was there any indication from the officer on scene that a fine would be issued?

No, he never spoke of a fine.

I did - thats why you said you didnt want to get out
If you check the logs there might be some sort of indicatoin of this (cant remember if i was using voice or text)

[Night]

Apologies, conclusion will be delayed due to issues with evidence and work priorities.

[Night]

Question to @"Vatipää", why didn't you attempt to place the cop under FearRP and tell him to back off, or make IC threats towards him in attempt to get yourself and Boshine out of trouble?

[yutgjctguc]

That was what I did. I said hands up.