(Jun 3, 2020, 07:16 PM)Reebs Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 03:08 PM)George Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 01:42 PM)Andromeda Wrote: [ -> ]I believe in bad policing and poor training in some departments.
This. That's the problem when the country you live in is willing to give any Tom, Dick, or Harry a gun and a badge.
I do also just want to note here that it’s incredibly difficult to become a LEO in most departments. The overwhelming majority of departments don’t just give anyone a badge and gun.
I’d like to propose some more food for thought though...is it possible these officers just either got complacent or stupid after time on the job? I’m not saying that would excuse it by any means, but given they’re charging the officer with manslaughter (from what I’ve read at least), that would mean that the loss of Mr. Floyd was unintentional. Still doesn’t excuse it, but just some food for thought...
He's being charged with 3rd degree murder, with latest reports suggesting an upgrade to 2nd degree murder, neither of which are manslaughter. The Floyd attorney has stated that he expects the other officers to be charged with accessory to murder too, but that's not been announced by the AG yet.
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Why is no one talking about the latter? Are black lives more important than asian lives now?
(Jun 3, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]
Why is no one talking about the latter? Are black lives more important than asian lives now?
You're right. What's happening in HK is unacceptable too.
There can be more than one thing wrong with the world at once.
(Jun 3, 2020, 09:07 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]
Why is no one talking about the latter? Are black lives more important than asian lives now?
You're right. What's happening in HK is unacceptable too.
There can be more than one thing wrong with the world at once.
What’s also unacceptable is how people only seem to care about Floyd, and not the other guy (who’s name i couldn’t find)
Probably because you're living in a western country - and just to be clear those who support the BLM movement also completely condemn the CCP's actions in HK. However, people are less likely to protest the issue that they are not facing in their own country, which is likely why HK hasn't had many BLM protests since they have bigger issues on their hands regarding the CCP. I don't see you point in this? Are you saying this movement is the protest of one mans death? Because George Floyd's death was an ignition to a much much bigger movement than the protest of one mans death.
(Jun 3, 2020, 09:23 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ] Probably because you're living in a western country - and just to be clear those who support the BLM movement also completely condemn the CCP's actions in HK. However, people are less likely to protest the issue that they are not facing in their own country, which is likely why HK hasn't had many BLM protests since they have bigger issues on their hands regarding the CCP. I don't see you point in this? Are you saying this movement is the protest of one mans death? Because George Floyd's death was an ignition to a much much bigger movement than the protest of one mans death.
No i’m just baffled as to why there are BLM protests in the UK and Europe but no (or very little) protests about the CCP when both incidents happened on different continents?
(Jun 3, 2020, 09:25 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:23 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ] Probably because you're living in a western country - and just to be clear those who support the BLM movement also completely condemn the CCP's actions in HK. However, people are less likely to protest the issue that they are not facing in their own country, which is likely why HK hasn't had many BLM protests since they have bigger issues on their hands regarding the CCP. I don't see you point in this? Are you saying this movement is the protest of one mans death? Because George Floyd's death was an ignition to a much much bigger movement than the protest of one mans death.
No i’m just baffled as to why there are BLM protests in the UK and Europe but no (or very little) protests about the CCP when both incidents happened on different continents?
Because there isn't equality in the UK and Europe hence this huge movement to push for equality. If there wasn't a problem here no one would be protesting.
(Jun 3, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]
Why is no one talking about the latter? Are black lives more important than asian lives now?
I have to side with the protest here. No one is disqualifying the value of other lives. But I personally think that focusing on one issue is not going to solve anything. At least not in this way.
(Jun 3, 2020, 09:31 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:25 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:23 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ] Probably because you're living in a western country - and just to be clear those who support the BLM movement also completely condemn the CCP's actions in HK. However, people are less likely to protest the issue that they are not facing in their own country, which is likely why HK hasn't had many BLM protests since they have bigger issues on their hands regarding the CCP. I don't see you point in this? Are you saying this movement is the protest of one mans death? Because George Floyd's death was an ignition to a much much bigger movement than the protest of one mans death.
No i’m just baffled as to why there are BLM protests in the UK and Europe but no (or very little) protests about the CCP when both incidents happened on different continents?
Because there isn't equality in the UK and Europe hence this huge movement to push for equality. If there wasn't a problem here no one would be protesting.
So I ask again, why are the protests for “Black Lives Matter”, when there are cases of racism against other racists? Your not fighting for equality if you’re only supporting one race.
#AsianLivesMatterToo
#AllLivesMatter
(Jun 3, 2020, 10:26 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:31 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:25 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]No i’m just baffled as to why there are BLM protests in the UK and Europe but no (or very little) protests about the CCP when both incidents happened on different continents?
Because there isn't equality in the UK and Europe hence this huge movement to push for equality. If there wasn't a problem here no one would be protesting.
So I ask again, why are the protests for “Black Lives Matter”, when there are cases of racism against other racists? Your not fighting for equality if you’re only supporting one race.
#AsianLivesMatterToo
#AllLivesMatter
Aren't Hong Kong citizens and Chinese police both Asian?
Are you are you saying that because they're Asian it must be racist?
(Jun 3, 2020, 10:29 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 10:26 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 09:31 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]Because there isn't equality in the UK and Europe hence this huge movement to push for equality. If there wasn't a problem here no one would be protesting.
So I ask again, why are the protests for “Black Lives Matter”, when there are cases of racism against other racists? Your not fighting for equality if you’re only supporting one race.
#AsianLivesMatterToo
#AllLivesMatter
Aren't Hong Kong citizens and Chinese police both Asian?
Are you are you saying that because they're Asian it must be racist?
The man wasn't from Hong Kong or China, he was from South East Asia, although it does not say specifically where from.
(Jun 3, 2020, 10:44 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 10:29 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 10:26 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]So I ask again, why are the protests for “Black Lives Matter”, when there are cases of racism against other racists? Your not fighting for equality if you’re only supporting one race.
#AsianLivesMatterToo
#AllLivesMatter
Aren't Hong Kong citizens and Chinese police both Asian?
Are you are you saying that because they're Asian it must be racist?
The man wasn't from Hong Kong or China, he was from South East Asia, although it does not say specifically where from.
So he was Asian.
And the people who killed him, were also Asian.
In an Asian majority country.
In Asia.
I don't see the racist link.
In my opinion, both sides of this conflict are wrong.
(Jun 3, 2020, 10:46 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 10:44 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ] (Jun 3, 2020, 10:29 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]Aren't Hong Kong citizens and Chinese police both Asian?
Are you are you saying that because they're Asian it must be racist?
The man wasn't from Hong Kong or China, he was from South East Asia, although it does not say specifically where from.
So he was Asian.
And the people who killed him, were also Asian.
In an Asian majority country.
In Asia.
I don't see the racist link.
Go up to a Carribean Black and an African Black and say "youre the same" and see how they react
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