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(Jun 2, 2020, 11:50 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:48 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:47 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]‍ Wow you really think that this movement is all about riots and looting; you are part of this problem. How is it that every other BLM protest in London so far has been peaceful then? Stop spreading fear when all these people are trying to spread is love and equality.

#AllLivesMatter

I'm really refraining from using in-appropriate language now. How dare you say that; ofcourse all lives matter. But so do all houses matter, yet the firefighters are only putting out the burning houses. This is the same as races, ofcourse every single human life matters but as it is seen some races are treated differently to others and hence, Black. Lives. Matter.

They do matter, but they do not matter more than white lives, asian lives or hispanic lives, to name a few. All lives matter equally.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:00 AM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]‍ If all lives matter equally, then why did George Floyd die? Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL, hence the BLM movement.

George Floyd died due to a racist police officer, you can't stop racists until it's too late.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:07 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:00 AM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]‍ If all lives matter equally, then why did George Floyd die? Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL, hence the BLM movement.

George Floyd died due to a racist police officer, you can't stop racists until it's too late.

You can ensure racists aren't given positions of power.
You can inbew a proper culture of responsibility so they're stopped if situations occur.
You can stop giving officers who kill free passes.

"You can't stop racists until it's too late"
He was being strangled for 8 minutes.
There was 8 minutes he could have been stopped, and he wouldn't be dead.
In any of the 16 times he said he couldn't breath, they could have taken his fucking knee of his neck.

Until it's too late my ass.
Quit acting like a bootlicker, the officer comitted murder, with so many times he could have been stopped.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:20 AM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:07 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:00 AM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]‍ If all lives matter equally, then why did George Floyd die? Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL, hence the BLM movement.

George Floyd died due to a racist police officer, you can't stop racists until it's too late.

 the officer comitted murder

Quote me one time where I said he didn't. I've openly said he should be charged with murder on this same thread.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:31 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:20 AM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:07 AM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]George Floyd died due to a racist police officer, you can't stop racists until it's too late.

 the officer comitted murder

Quote me one time where I said he didn't. I've openly said he should be charged with murder on this same thread.

I think you'll find there's more to my post.
You say they can't be stopped until it's too late.
Perhaps if any of the other cops stood there decided to stop him from strangling a guy to death, we wouldn't be seeing this.

You know I wasn’t even gonna say anything else until the term bootlicker was used, and honestly, it was just a matter of time. 

- I don’t necessarily agree with everything Faustin is saying.

- I don’t agree with people calling law enforcement supporters boot lickers, and for a respected member of the community and staff to refer to another member of the community with that derogatory term is inappropriate in my eyes.

(Jun 3, 2020, 02:48 AM)Catfish Wrote: [ -> ]You know I wasn’t even gonna say anything else until the term bootlicker was used, and honestly, it was just a matter of time. 

- I don’t necessarily agree with everything Faustin is saying.

- I don’t agree with people calling law enforcement supporters boot lickers, and for a respected member of the community and staff to refer to another member of the community with that derogatory term is inappropriate in my eyes.

No, I doubt he is a bootlicker, but to say "there's no way of stopping someone who killed someone over 8 minutes who begged for their life 16 times" is very much reminicint of some of the arguments they make. "Don't resist if you don't want to be killed". "They were afraid for their life".

You're also mistaking the support of LEOs, which I don't have an issue with, with the unquestioning belief that they are always right.
To diagram it for you,
[Violent Anti Police] - Anti Police - Neutral - LEO Supportive - [Extreme Pro-Police / Bootlicker].
The square brackets I take issue with.

I disagree that there was no opportunity to stop this terrible act from happening during the 8 minutes and 46 seconds it happened.
I disagree with shooting at cops as "payback".
I disagree with that having someone beg for their life 16 times and get ignored each time is right.
I personally disagree with burning down random buildings, but I can understand why it's done.

Does that better explain my position for you?

(Jun 3, 2020, 03:14 AM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 02:48 AM)Catfish Wrote: [ -> ]You know I wasn’t even gonna say anything else until the term bootlicker was used, and honestly, it was just a matter of time. 

- I don’t necessarily agree with everything Faustin is saying.

- I don’t agree with people calling law enforcement supporters boot lickers, and for a respected member of the community and staff to refer to another member of the community with that derogatory term is inappropriate in my eyes.

No, I doubt he is a bootlicker, but to say "there's no way of stopping someone who killed someone over 8 minutes who begged for their life 16 times" is very much reminicint of some of the arguments they make. "Don't resist if you don't want to be killed". "They were afraid for their life".

You're also mistaking the support of LEOs, which I don't have an issue with, with the unquestioning belief that they are always right.
To diagram it for you,
[Violent Anti Police] - Anti Police - Neutral - LEO Supportive - [Extreme Pro-Police / Bootlicker].
The square brackets I take issue with.

I disagree that there was no opportunity to stop this terrible act from happening during the 8 minutes and 46 seconds it happened.
I disagree with shooting at cops as "payback".
I disagree with that having someone beg for their life 16 times and get ignored each time is right.
I personally disagree with burning down random buildings, but I can understand why it's done.

Does that better explain my position for you?

Absolutely, 

I agree that some people (including LEOs) can go to far in defending officers who are in the wrong. 

I disagree that racism can’t be prevented until it’s too late as well.

I understand your issue with the “bootlicker” category. Apologies if I assumed you were calling all supporters that term, it is however commonly used against law enforcement supporters even in justified situations.

They said what the officer did was murder, I said hell yes.

They said the officer should be fired and arrested, I said hell yes. 

They said justice for Floyd, I said hell yes. 

They said let’s protest, I said hell yes.

They said black lives matter, I said hell yes.

Then while some protested, others rioted.

While some protested, others destroyed businesses.

While some protested, others burned down public buildings and police cars. 

While some protested, others assaulted innocent people. 

While some protested, others killed police officers.

Everyone has a reason to be upset, but now thousands are living in fear of having their lives taken.

I will now be attending multiple funerals from police officers who were ambushed and murdered in cold blood this week, when we heard you from the beginning.

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:48 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 2, 2020, 11:47 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]‍ Wow you really think that this movement is all about riots and looting; you are part of this problem. How is it that every other BLM protest in London so far has been peaceful then? Stop spreading fear when all these people are trying to spread is love and equality.

#AllLivesMatter

Out of curiosity, what did the last administration(s) do to try and fix the issue African Americans are facing right now?

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:00 AM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL

the law would strongly disagree with you.

Unless you live in a third world country, but considering people are targetting the (very equal) United States instead of the countries where racism is everywhere, yeah the law isnt on your side this time

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:20 AM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]You can stop giving officers who kill free passes.

I wonder how we could do that, perhaps by firing the officers involved and charging the one responsible for a mans death with murder and manslaughter? but thats just a theory, a game theory.

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:49 PM)Tails Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jun 3, 2020, 12:00 AM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ]Currently all lives ARE NOT EQUAL

the law would strongly disagree with you.

Unless you live in a third world country, but considering people are targetting the (very equal) United States instead of the countries where racism is everywhere, yeah the law isnt on your side this time

Statistics would strongly disagree with you.

But I'm not arguing here anymore because I can't change any of your opinions; yes I strong disagree with you. However I cannot change this fact and therefore I am not responding anymore.