Jun 6, 2020, 04:45 PM
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Jun 6, 2020, 07:15 PM
(Jun 6, 2020, 01:26 PM)Andromeda Wrote: [ -> ]"White Supremacy is threatening our existence... killing us every single day"
"Its time to #DefundThePolice and #InvestInOurCommunities"
-https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/
I made the mistake of thinking that BLM was actually just a movement to improve the lives of Black people in America. Hence why I always outlined why I was targeting anti-police protesters, and singling them out from what I considered "peaceful protesters".
Evidently I was ill-informed, as BLM is literally calling for anarchy.
The BLM national organization is crazy. #DefundThePolice is their measure of choice now. It is defunding the police and redistributing the money to black people. They act as if crime will just disappear without the police. Another part of defund the police is instead hiring social workers to respond to 911 calls involving homeless people or other people in distress. If someone is calling 911 to report an emergency, it is surely a great idea to send a social worker who can't defend themself should something go wrong.
One of the main examples of defunding the police is Camden, NJ. They say the police chief "defunded" the agency and restructured it focusing on community policing. First of all, the agency was not defunded. They changed the name and just adopted the policy of community policing, which is extremely common in small towns and becoming increasingly common in larger cities. Second of all, the action has not improved the city. Crime stats are down, but still heavily fluctuating between good and bad. It is still within the top 10 for most dangerous cities in the entire country. It is obvious that the "defunding" they praise has not been very successful.
In addition, the BLM organization takes the stance of nothing is ever enough. The African-American female mayor of Washington, DC had the streets leading up to the white house painted with "Black Lives Matter." BLMDC decided that her actions were not enough.
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Nothing is ever enough. The mayor's efforts to make the movement literally ingrained on the streets of DC are not enough. They just want to defund the police because obviously the police are the reason crime occurs.
Jun 6, 2020, 07:25 PM
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Do these lives matter too?
Jun 6, 2020, 08:09 PM
(Jun 6, 2020, 04:43 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 6, 2020, 04:41 PM)Klinex Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 2, 2020, 11:48 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]#AllLivesMatter
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how you look rn
Imagine dragging this debate on when I haven't replied in days
just cause it’s been a few days doesn’t change the fact that what you said was stupid lmao
Jun 6, 2020, 09:04 PM
(Jun 6, 2020, 08:09 PM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 6, 2020, 04:43 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 6, 2020, 04:41 PM)Klinex Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-
how you look rn
Imagine dragging this debate on when I haven't replied in days
just cause it’s been a few days doesn’t change the fact that what you said was stupid lmao
Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make it stupid.
Jun 6, 2020, 09:24 PM
(Jun 6, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make it stupid.
i don't disagree with your opinion hun. all lives do matter. but this is not the time for that shit. right now people are talking about black lives because they're the ones who are being discriminated against by our government and police. nobody ever said that only black lives matter.
Jun 6, 2020, 11:07 PM
(Jun 6, 2020, 09:24 PM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 6, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make it stupid.
i don't disagree with your opinion hun. all lives do matter. but this is not the time for that shit. right now people are talking about black lives because they're the ones who are being discriminated against by our government and police. nobody ever said that only black lives matter.
Like i’ve been saying for a while now, if all lives do matter, why is no one talking about the oppression in south america? or africa? the middle east? hong kong?
Jun 7, 2020, 01:36 AM
(Jun 6, 2020, 09:24 PM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ]Surely blue lives matter falls under that category. Officers being shot and killed just for wearing the uniform sounds a lot like violent discrimination to me.(Jun 6, 2020, 09:04 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ]Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make it stupid.
i don't disagree with your opinion hun. all lives do matter. but this is not the time for that shit. right now people are talking about black lives because they're the ones who are being discriminated against by our government and police. nobody ever said that only black lives matter.
Jun 7, 2020, 04:00 AM
violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
Jun 7, 2020, 04:46 AM
(Jun 7, 2020, 04:00 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ]violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
it's not violent discrimination when it doesn't happen very often
Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM
if only we had a government that cared about it’s citizens 😔
Jun 7, 2020, 06:49 AM
(Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 7, 2020, 04:46 AM)Venom Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 7, 2020, 04:00 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ]violent discrimination? like when cops kill innocent black people?
it's not violent discrimination when it doesn't happen very often
just because it doesn't happen very often doesn't change the fact that innocent people are being murdered by police officers and black people in america are much more likely to be murdered by police than any other race.
The percentage of African-Americans killed by police is much greater than the population numbers, but the representation of African-Americans in violent crime statistics is extremely close to the percentage killed by police. When crime occurs, the police are called and it can escalate to violence. Obviously any death by a cop is sad, especially in a situation like George Floyd, but officers are charged when they wrongly kill people. Every death is investigated and the prosecutor determines if the death was justified or not. If it is not justified, they face legal action.
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(Jun 7, 2020, 01:36 AM)Catfish Wrote: [ -> ]Surely blue lives matter falls under that category. Officers being shot and killed just for wearing the uniform sounds a lot like violent discrimination to me.
1. im pretty sure police officers are alive so yes, they fall under "all lives matter"
2. of course, i dont agree with them being killed but its obvious why its happening. our justice system has been flawed for so long and people are finally fed up with it. and there are a lot of police who will defend each other no matter what just because theyre "brothers in blue" even when they know their fellow officers are breaking the law or doing something that isnt right.
Why do you think cops are so unwilling to turn against the people they work with? First of all, they trust their fellow officers with their life. That's a big responsibility. Second, it's partly because of the public opinion like what is happening after George Floyd's death. There are people torching buildings and killing cops because they don't like the police. Mayors and prosecutors in left-wing areas are publicly anti-cop and constantly attack the police for everything. When they are constantly attacked, they band together.
The more recent charge to #DefundThePolice is a perfect example of the sentiment. People actually think that taking money away from the police or eliminating the police altogether will make things better. Just using simple logic proves that it will make it worse. How do police get better at their jobs? Training. What pays for training? Funding. The police will only get worse if they lose money. Pay cuts will obviously occur so talented recruits will abandon low-paying departments for better ones. It's an utterly terrible idea, but people believe in it. The cops band together to fight it and rightfully they should.
unless our government starts caring, this shit will just keep happening. and from what it seems, our presidents only plan is to hide in a bunker and let the police and military attack the citizens of the country hes supposed to be leading.
Policing is regulated at the state and local levels, as it should. The president does not have a duty in controlling local affairs. The differences between cities in different states are massive so policies at the national level are very likely to be destructive and inconsiderate of local differences.
Jun 7, 2020, 07:02 AM
(Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ]black people in america are much more likely to be murdered by police than any other race.
And this is the fault of <law enforcement> and/or <other races> (?)
You do realize that African-American communities are impacted by policing because they're more likely to be involved in criminal activity- It's not disproportional, it's proportional to the actual amount of crime being committed.
You can't be one of those individuals that blames everybody else for why African-American communities are suffering and make excuses as to which systemic faults have been in-place and that this is why they have been kept in a relatively low socioeconomic place in the United States. The disadvantages they face have nothing to do with 'white privilege' and everything to do with poor parenting, lack of education and their cultural inclination to be associated with criminal activities that are perpetuated as cool through the rap scene. Their lack of quality education might've been a result of red-lining, but continues to suffer because of the community backlash against gentrification that would bring about community improvements, street beautification as well as significant increases in property tax revenues that are the very thing that fund the schools, after-school programs and all else that is needed to ensure that kids are safe and staying off the streets.
(Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 AM)Ocelotus Wrote: [ -> ]Of course, I don't agree with them being killed but its obvious why its happening. Our justice system has been flawed for so long and people are finally fed up with it.You speak as if you are somehow involved in the justice system and have some insight into the world of criminal justice. You're an edgy teen that probably watches BuzzFeed and thinks they're woke. Secondly, the only people that are saying the justice system is flawed are those that are shocked that when consequences come to those who break the law- and this is most apparent in those that have a stance against putting people away for non-violent crimes.
You know what people should be fed up with? This idea that you are somehow disadvantaged because of your skin color. This idea is repeated by the mainstream media, sympathetic white people and edgy POC on social media.
The one thing that will be a disadvantage is your socioeconomic status, household income and most importantly just your personal character traits. In these areas, you are on level playing ground. You have every opportunity to be successful and competitive to others. You can smoke joints, listen to music and fuck around- or you can get a job at 17 and start working to be financially independent. You can enroll in a community college (affordable) or even a trade school that can get you on the path to work in fields that are underappreciated, such as electricians and mechanics, but pay competitively with salaries above 100K annually. You know what you should be fed up with? The idea that you have to be slinging dope or participating in illegal activities to have street cred or whatever the fuck these songs talk about. It's the reason our entire generation is such shit. People don't want to work- and that extends across all races but is most relevant in the African-American communities. There is no magic fix until African-American youth come to understand this.
Jun 7, 2020, 02:53 PM
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Black Lives Matter should be about improving the lives of black people. Not blaming police. They were calling a mayor to disband the police department yesterday.
And from what I know, its some what being taken seriously.
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"Ward 3 Councilmember Steve Fletcher announced the effort on social media, saying that he and other councilmembers are looking to "disband" the Minneapolis Police Department, calling it "ungovernable" and "irredeemably beyond reform." Without any historical precedent, there's no easy path forward."
Jun 7, 2020, 03:00 PM
(Jun 6, 2020, 04:41 PM)Klinex Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 2, 2020, 11:48 PM)Faustin Wrote: [ -> ](Jun 2, 2020, 11:47 PM)Quest Wrote: [ -> ] Wow you really think that this movement is all about riots and looting; you are part of this problem. How is it that every other BLM protest in London so far has been peaceful then? Stop spreading fear when all these people are trying to spread is love and equality.
#AllLivesMatter
how you look rn
Imagine how you must look then thinking that the 6 bad cops in america are a more important issue than the 1 million Muslims in Chinese internment camps, or the millions of modern day slaves, or the millions of homeless people. Get a fucking grip.