[zharkan16]

thank you for your wishes, but idk anger and all isnt good towards anyone but still find it bullshit how I am banned for not following orders when actually he did that and more thats all im tryna say and get my ban lifted off discord as its a bullshit ban that doesnt need to be in place 


i dont feel the ban is bullshit.. IT IS bullshit thats THE PROBLEM

claim i didnt follow orders when i clearly did

[Night]

If it was bullshit as you claim, HR would have intervened. They're more than aware of both the ban and this appeal, and I imagine would have said something a long time ago if they found it to be invalid. Again, this isn't for you to decide.

[zharkan16]

HR's don't seem to intervene in anything idk if u noticed, it was a bullshit ban, its not called claiming, I was there, u werent, hr's werent, the logs dont show shit since i was banned and idk if they deleted chats after I was banned of him tagging bambo on and on but i did stop when stell said to stop the 2nd time, the kid kept tagging bambo fueling the heat, i ignored, bambo tags me, i reply to bambo about my april appeal, he says well sorry about my mom and he will be banning me

WHERE in that is not listening to staff? if anything it should be that kid, so it is a bullshit ban, PLEASE dont bring up HR's as I don't see them doing much tbh just ranks that are there

[Overlewd]

Muh feelings. HR don't intervene because there's nothing wrong with the ban. What does feel wrong is how you can think you can get somewhere by still refusing to admit you are wrong. Something something definition of insanity something something read doc's reply a few more times.

[zharkan16]

@Overlewd‍ sorry to hurt ur feeling hun but then again doc isnt perfect, his reply has a lot of flaws, like he claimed I made fun of that guy for being broke when I clearly didn't cause I myself am broke right now, I simply wished that guy to someday be able to afford nice things for his loved ones..

YOU yourself said nothing was wrong with them making fun of my step mom when doc intervened cause the argument itself WAS WRONG and I NEVER started any arguments I am always involved in them tho

so actually HR's seem to not know whats wrong then? Lol

Doc's reply has nothing to do with anything


I am not admitting I am not wrong, am I wrong for arguing with that guy? MAYBE. IS HE wrong for making that mom joke and CONTINUING after I told him in private that it offended me for x y z YES. 

IS my ban for the argument? NO
Is my ban for not following staff's orders? YES

SO actually.. I am not wrong for that cause I did stop when they said to stop, he continued, I replied when a staff tagged me... which isn't arguing or anything... 

Let me know if you finally got it in your head and understand WHY I'm not wrong cause for THAT BAN REASON, I am not guilty : )
HERE ARE THE FACTS...

I am wrong for arguing, I am not wrong for THE argument, I didn't start it, I DID follow staff's orders, I watched that kid tag bambo several times to heat up the fight, I DID reply to BAMBO when he TAGGED me soo... how is my ban for NOT FOLLOWING STAFFS ORDERS

Its not insane... idk what it is but it's common sense... if you guy's can't see this as common sense then I might be smarter than you...

[Night]

Zhark, respectfully, did you listen to a word of what I said? Snarky comments won't help you, and I'm very tempted to start issuing forum warnings if you continue to make remarks like that. Sure, you may be angry and upset or whatever but one more remark and I'll start to issue warning levels. I won't sit here whilst you make snarky and snide remarks towards members of staff, it's not appropriate and it helps no one including yourself.

[zharkan16]

Snarky? 

I mean... shit sorry if ur offended i tried to keep it as clean and common sense as possible...

[zharkan16]

but ya ur right @Night‍ im really just so done of damn arguing with people, it's just im sick of people telling me YOU DID IT when I really didn't =/ and If I act defensive, people dont like that, if I dont act defensive, I will be easily take the blame and BOOM denied..

There's no middle anymore in this... everyone's just acting weird and there's no room for being real without arguing cause everyone wants to go home a winner =/

i just meant to say in my post that, well, the staff's ban reason, not following orders is false, and they did not ask me to stop 5 times as they claim they did, i stopped, that guy didnt, i replied when a staff addressed me... 

the ban was for not following orders, not the argument therefore u cant really blame me for something i didnt do... 

Hope this is less snarky sorry tho it just gets defensive when ppl just stick to their idea and go like no ur wrong no ur wrong, like =/

[Bambo]

@zharkan16‍

ban was for;

BAN REASON
Extremely aggressive, refusing to listen.

I remember you lashing out at people asking you to stop, to me and others as well. Your attitude was aggressive towards everyone and you refused to calm down, just like you not knowing the limits of what you should say in this thread, with extremely snarky comments and attempts at digs towards people trying to do their job.

If you believed the ban was invalid, why did you wait for so long to appeal? If it was invalid, and one felt it was unfair, wouldn't they immediately appeal?

[zharkan16]

@zharkan16‍

ban was for;

BAN REASON
Extremely aggressive, refusing to listen.

I remember you lashing out at people asking you to stop, to me and others as well. Your attitude was aggressive towards everyone and you refused to calm down, just like you not knowing the limits of what you should say in this thread, with extremely snarky comments and attempts at digs towards people trying to do their job.

If you believed the ban was invalid, why did you wait for so long to appeal? If it was invalid, and one felt it was unfair, wouldn't they immediately appeal?

Didn't really bother appealing but now I just want back in to the discord if that makes sense

Tbh I was extremely aggressive to that guy because he pissed me off and did not respect a matter that he shouldn't joke about even after being told why it wasn't funny to me

I was not aggressive to u.. u tagged me only once and I DID stop when stell said to stop, he kept tagging u, u tagged me asking about how i will appeal in april with my behaviour or so along those lines, i told u ill be fine and what not, u said well condolences about ur mother but ill be banning u now

that was literally it.. i wasnt aggressive towards u or anyone else but that kid cause he deserved it, I was more aggressive than he was I'd say, but I did stop when stell asked us to stop, he kept tagging u and then u tagged me asking about hwo ill appeal and ya

Anyways I am not really tryna argue here, point is doc's essay in my thread said the ban reason was for refusing to listen, extremely aggressive maybe sure that could be true, he started the arguement tho with something that is not funny and i told him so and then in your head instead of ending the fight like stell did, which i stopped when he did, you then TAG ME cause your friend or you claim he isn't ur friend and all but lets say THIS DUDE kept tagging you to fuel it, which means he DID NOT stop, aka refusing to listen, and then YOU tag me so I REPLY to you.. that's just replying to a staff, nothing aggressive there and my reply WAS NOT aggressive either..

SO once I reply to you, which you talked about my unban and my behaviour, I said I will be fine you reply, condolences about your mother but I will be banning you now..

RIGHT... so what really is this?

HE started the argument by making a joke that was offensive, I told him so in private, he decides to take it to general to make a show, so I continue in general, staff says stop, i stop, he continues, you tag me, i reply, i am banned for refusing to listen, and extremely aggressive... 

Mmk?

Ur a 100% right on the aggressive part, i said shit worse than his joke but i just did so and even wrote thats a joke to show him that just cause u think somethings a joke doesnt mean its funny or is a joke its still serious, but still was aggressive

refusing to listen... im sorry bambo but i did listen =/ i replied when you tagged me unless that was a test and i was supposed to ignore you? 

idk..

[Brynn]

Sorry I was meant to conclude this Friday, but ended up being busy.

However, I'll be reviewing and concluding this UBR. So where to start, the way you've acted in your so-called unban request is poor. If you're attempted to persuade is that you want to be unbanned, you need to correct attitude. Which you clearly forgot. You literally sat there and borderline insulted the whole staff team. Which shows us that you're not ready to be unbanned, for a very long time. You blame us for the way you acted. You're big enough and old enough to answer for your own actions. You're on the bloody internet, if you're going to be offended by everything and everyone. I strongly advise on not coming on the internet anymore. We've tried to explain this to you many times, but for some reason you do not listen to a word we have to say. You're too stubborn to take into account that you was wrong aswell, and it was your own fault you cannot 'control' your anger. 

Secondly, to top it all off. You've ignored HR several times. I gave you a simple instruction about not contacting staff regarding your ban. I personally explained the correct procedure several times. Which again, you do not have the capability to actually listen to a word we all say. So around two ish weeks ago, I explained to you very clearly if you contact anyone on the staff team regarding your ban. You clearly ignored me and claimed you had forgotten. Which again, is your problem, not mine. So therefore you've shot yourself in the foot. Constantly pestering us, will result in your appeal being straight up denied.

So, to officially finish it off. This appeal is denied.