[Cameron]

I see absolutely no reason why anyone should be allowed to vote on ingame changes (changes they would likely never see) when they have broken the rules enough times to warrant a permanent ban. If they get unbanned, then they can vote again.

+Support

[ZooM]

+support

I'm tired of voting

[Nudel]

Most permanently banned "members" are just trolling around anyway.

+support

It does not affect them anymore.

So your argument is to punish everyone who made a mistake, regardless of what that mistake was, as severely as those who overtly troll and violate the forum rules to the point they need to be removed from it?

"A mistake" - People who receive a permanent ban are either people with an excessive amount of suspensions which shows that those people simply can not learn the rules OR people receive a permanent ban for things like ddos threats ect.

I doubt you can say that I want to punish people who made a "simple mistake". They made quite a lot of mistakes to get a permanent suspension. Rules are rules and in my opinion a permanent suspension should be a permanent suspension in most cases. There are players with a total amount of over 50 (!) punishments, yet they are either still not permanently banned or just post an unban request "lol I matured in x momths so much that I know everything now sry pls" - yet you see those players just getting banned a week after again.

I fail to see how permanently banned members should be allowed to vote anywhere. It does not affect them.

[Armard]

"""""neutral"""""

Just because i dont like either side, maybe like a half vote for banned users would be nice

[Armard]

I see absolutely no reason why anyone should be allowed to vote on ingame changes (changes they would likely never see) when they have broken the rules enough times to warrant a permanent ban. If they get unbanned, then they can vote again.

+Support

How about forum suggestions

[Cameron]

I see absolutely no reason why anyone should be allowed to vote on ingame changes (changes they would likely never see) when they have broken the rules enough times to warrant a permanent ban. If they get unbanned, then they can vote again.

+Support

How about forum suggestions

Forum suggestions would be fine since those players would not be forum banned and would still be free to participate in discussions.

[Doctor Internet]

Considering I've seen multiple permanently banned users positively contribute to the community they've been banned from, I don't see why they should be barred from giving input. A bad idea is a bad idea, no matter who points these things out. Furthermore, if someone who has been permanently banned starts abusing the privileges they have on another service? They they'll be removed too. We shouldn't be punishing people for not breaking our policies.

[Project]

Considering I've seen multiple permanently banned users positively contribute to the community they've been banned from, I don't see why they should be barred from giving input. A bad idea is a bad idea, no matter who points these things out. Furthermore, if someone who has been permanently banned starts abusing the privileges they have on another service? They they'll be removed too. We shouldn't be punishing people for not breaking our policies.

There have been countless times where permed minges -Support suggestion for the lols, they should be able to voice their opinion if they want, but they should not be able to vote.

[Doctor Internet]

Considering I've seen multiple permanently banned users positively contribute to the community they've been banned from, I don't see why they should be barred from giving input. A bad idea is a bad idea, no matter who points these things out. Furthermore, if someone who has been permanently banned starts abusing the privileges they have on another service? They they'll be removed too. We shouldn't be punishing people for not breaking our policies.

There have been countless times where permed minges -Support suggestion for the lols, they should be able to voice their opinion if they want, but they should not be able to vote.

That is against forum rules. General rule 4 to be specific. Can you provide me the links to these threads with troll votes please?

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@Montyfatcat your poll fucked up the bot. I've fixed the poll.

[Armard]

@Doctor Internet‍ poll still fucked, switzerland option was removed

[Doctor Internet]

"Doctor Internet"‍ poll still fucked, switzerland option was removed

Yeah. It's now neutral...

[Cole]

Considering I've seen multiple permanently banned users positively contribute to the community they've been banned from, I don't see why they should be barred from giving input. A bad idea is a bad idea, no matter who points these things out. Furthermore, if someone who has been permanently banned starts abusing the privileges they have on another service? They they'll be removed too. We shouldn't be punishing people for not breaking our policies.

Agree with this, as well as my point in a previous reply. Just because they're banned doesn't mean their opinions are invalidated. Punish those who deserve it on specific services, not globally.

[Taylor]

All "permanently" Banned players have the ability to come back, as no permanent ban is permanent, unban policys clearly list that once the cooldown period has expired a player can freely post an unban appeal and have it fairly reviewed for a chance to return.

Permanent is not permanent on LL

I still cannot support this

[Montyfatcat]

Considering I've seen multiple permanently banned users positively contribute to the community they've been banned from, I don't see why they should be barred from giving input. A bad idea is a bad idea, no matter who points these things out. Furthermore, if someone who has been permanently banned starts abusing the privileges they have on another service? They they'll be removed too. We shouldn't be punishing people for not breaking our policies.

There have been countless times where permed minges -Support suggestion for the lols, they should be able to voice their opinion if they want, but they should not be able to vote.

That is against forum rules. General rule 4 to be specific. Can you provide me the links to these threads with troll votes please?

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@Montyfatcat your poll fucked up the bot. I've fixed the poll.

ah soz

[Armard]

"Doctor Internet"‍ poll still fucked, switzerland option was removed

Yeah. It's now neutral...

I cri, now i need to edit my responce