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(Mar 6, 2018, 05:31 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 6, 2018, 12:13 AM)The Rock Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-

maturity? oh god take a look at this video from last night. You say we're not mature, check out the ACTUAL staff members on the server.

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You came into a private TS channel, with a group of friends who were having a joke? I see you've ignored context again.

(Mar 6, 2018, 05:34 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 6, 2018, 05:31 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 6, 2018, 12:13 AM)The Rock Wrote: [ -> ]-snip-

maturity? oh god take a look at this video from last night. You say we're not mature, check out the ACTUAL staff members on the server.

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You came into a private TS channel, with a group of friends who were having a joke? I see you've ignored context again.

hm? having a joke about a serious topic, and purposely directing it towards us. Then you tell me off when I call you '40 year old virgins' hm, dw its a private TS

(Mar 6, 2018, 05:36 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 6, 2018, 05:34 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 6, 2018, 05:31 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ]maturity? oh god take a look at this video from last night. You say we're not mature, check out the ACTUAL staff members on the server.

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You came into a private TS channel, with a group of friends who were having a joke? I see you've ignored context again.

hm? having a joke about a serious topic, and purposely directing it towards us. Then you tell me off when I call you '40 year old virgins' hm, dw its a private TS

Do you even know Doctor? To assume such thing? If you came by a group channel to only do jokes and to mess with othera for pure fun or whatever only shows lack of mature

I've never myself encountered any form of biasism in the community nor have I encountered evidence to support the existence of biasisim in the community.

I haven't noticed much of this being an issue aside from a few "#FUMUKUBIAS" tags here and there. I am honestly shocked that this seems to be a big problem and that alot of people seem upset. I am not saying that these people are wrong, im just surprised as this sorta popped out of nowhere.

Or you learn to deal with biasness and live with it, happens everywhere, in politics, work, school and gMod community’s. Deal with it.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]There will always be biased yes but that's not something that's acceptable, just because it is a thing that is natural to the humen being doesn't mean it is ok to use that as an accuse and disregard other people because they're not your friends.

We have to differentiate bias here. Everyone is biased by the events they go through. Someone who got gassed in WWII is more likely to be against chemical weapons than a weapons chemist.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]Am I biased? to some extent you can probably say so but in when I was an admin, was I biased? I'd personally say No, I play CS:GO with the people who posted abuse threads on me, I disagreed with my best friend admins like Daley and "Nacreas" "Bambo" I play PUBG and role-play and mess around with the people I ban,

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have a small group of people who kissed ass to me long enough for them to be my "friends" I'm not that kind of person and I think most people know that.

People kissing your ass doesn't make them a friend, that makes them an ass-kisser. People being friends makes them a friend.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]But when there's a clan and they have a majority of the most active player-base and their players asking their admins for rules and permissions then how can it not be biased?

Because people can be objective. It's not impossible.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]If said players asked one of their said admins about a rule that doesn't exsist and the admin allows the rule without talking to the whole team about it nor discussing it with SAs or announcing it to the community, just so his friends can RP out a situation, then yes that is biased.  You'd be too blind if  you can't tell that it is biased, has that happened? yes it has.

Yes it has when? I'd like some examples, please.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]So to comeback on "there's always biased" yes there is but it's something I personally view as a weakness, if you're in a position of authority within this community and you favor your friends over the community itself, then it's not just biased behavoir, you're just afraid that you'll lose this group of friends because you said no to them or didn't allow them to do what they wanted.

No, it's not. Being biased because of your life experience is different to being biased because of your friends. As an example for myself, I tend to often say "no" to my friends. I still have friends, because my friends like me for my personality, not because I wield power like a mighty sword. There's a small difference there. Don't forget also, the entire team have oversight of the rest of the team, plus HR oversees the entire team. If you do shit like that, you will be called out on it, as you well know.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]If you can't handle saying no to your friends or not allowing them to do something that isn't in the rules, then you're word as an admin is weak and you yourself are weak as well, so consider leaving the community because you're only causing harm to it.

I recall a quote similar to this, where the person who posted it ended up being wrong. It didn't go well then, I doubt it will go well this time.

(Mar 8, 2018, 05:30 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]There will always be biased yes but that's not something that's acceptable, just because it is a thing that is natural to the humen being doesn't mean it is ok to use that as an accuse and disregard other people because they're not your friends.

We have to differentiate bias here. Everyone is biased by the events they go through. Someone who got gassed in WWII is more likely to be against chemical weapons than a weapons chemist.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]Am I biased? to some extent you can probably say so but in when I was an admin, was I biased? I'd personally say No, I play CS:GO with the people who posted abuse threads on me, I disagreed with my best friend admins like Daley and "Nacreas" "Bambo" I play PUBG and role-play and mess around with the people I ban,

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have a small group of people who kissed ass to me long enough for them to be my "friends" I'm not that kind of person and I think most people know that.

People kissing your ass doesn't make them a friend, that makes them an ass-kisser. People being friends makes them a friend.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]But when there's a clan and they have a majority of the most active player-base and their players asking their admins for rules and permissions then how can it not be biased?

Because people can be objective. It's not impossible.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]If said players asked one of their said admins about a rule that doesn't exsist and the admin allows the rule without talking to the whole team about it nor discussing it with SAs or announcing it to the community, just so his friends can RP out a situation, then yes that is biased.  You'd be too blind if  you can't tell that it is biased, has that happened? yes it has.

Yes it has when? I'd like some examples, please.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]So to comeback on "there's always biased" yes there is but it's something I personally view as a weakness, if you're in a position of authority within this community and you favor your friends over the community itself, then it's not just biased behavoir, you're just afraid that you'll lose this group of friends because you said no to them or didn't allow them to do what they wanted.

No, it's not. Being biased because of your life experience is different to being biased because of your friends. As an example for myself, I tend to often say "no" to my friends. I still have friends, because my friends like me for my personality, not because I wield power like a mighty sword. There's a small difference there. Don't forget also, the entire team have oversight of the rest of the team, plus HR oversees the entire team. If you do shit like that, you will be called out on it, as you well know.

(Mar 8, 2018, 09:42 AM)Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]If you can't handle saying no to your friends or not allowing them to do something that isn't in the rules, then you're word as an admin is weak and you yourself are weak as well, so consider leaving the community because you're only causing harm to it.

I recall a quote similar to this, where the person who posted it ended up being wrong. It didn't go well then, I doubt it will go well this time.

Negative, negative and negative. You just spent your time using everything Rocket said and just going against that, finding a way.

In his resignation, he mentioned a group of people.

Quote:some staff certian group of LL staff members

There's always that one group who people who like your posts and agree with your community biastness.

(Mar 8, 2018, 06:26 PM)IVNT Wrote: [ -> ]In his resignation, he mentioned a group of people.

Quote:some staff certian group of LL staff members

There's always that one group who people who like your posts and agree with your community biastness.

Quote:some staff certian group of LL staff members

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