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(Feb 24, 2017, 10:30 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: [ -> ]If teachers are the same as anyone else on the server,

Why has the suggestion in regards to giving them the ability to hand a REPs been approved?

https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9647.html

Uh oh..... not another repeat of what happend with a similar Teacher team from before.

Within that ONE month of them having the ability the only one who actually got given REP's were Teachers friends, people who arse licked teachers which the whole point of teachers is to make them so they are equal to others in the community, as soon as they have the REP ability may as well chuck them the ability for moderator powers.

(Feb 24, 2017, 10:54 PM)PaulB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb 24, 2017, 10:30 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: [ -> ]If teachers are the same as anyone else on the server,

Why has the suggestion in regards to giving them the ability to hand a REPs been approved?

https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9647.html

Uh oh..... not another repeat of what happend with a similar Teacher team from before.

Within that ONE month of them having the ability the only one who actually got given REP's were Teachers friends, people who arse licked teachers which the whole point of teachers is to make them so they are equal to others in the community, as soon as they have the REP ability may as well chuck them the ability for moderator powers.

The team you are talking about, you understand how loose the program was at that time? People were being accepted with total vote outcome no more than 5. The program since then has become more strict, and if a system like that was to be put in place we could discuss having safeguards in place to avoid its abuse. Or we can leave it as is because someone abused it at some point on a different situation when limelight was in a different state.

In my opinion this is not really necessary if the staff can't trust as enough or a solution which they would like can not be found, we would still be able to fulfil our duties without being able to give REPs.

But remember, because someone else abused it, it does not mean we will too. It is not the same situation. Worst case scenario, if said abuse does happen, teacher is demoted and the damage is reverted.

(Feb 24, 2017, 10:54 PM)PaulB Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb 24, 2017, 10:30 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: [ -> ]If teachers are the same as anyone else on the server,

Why has the suggestion in regards to giving them the ability to hand a REPs been approved?

https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9647.html

Uh oh..... not another repeat of what happend with a similar Teacher team from before.

Within that ONE month of them having the ability the only one who actually got given REP's were Teachers friends, people who arse licked teachers which the whole point of teachers is to make them so they are equal to others in the community, as soon as they have the REP ability may as well chuck them the ability for moderator powers.

That was a different team, at a different time.

Why not give teachers a chance to prove that they ain't the baby-punching, tax-evading, power-whoring, untrustworthy failures of human beings that some people seem to think we are?

Normally, I don't care what people think of me (see 99% of my posts), but seriously... This is starting to get mildly hurtful, where anything we do gets ignored, any work we put in is nullified, and sembelance of personality we have is stripped from us, becoming the shadow mass of "the teachers".

Paul, I've spoken to you before, you're a cool bloke. Rickets, I may not have liked you, but at least I respected your contributions in the past. Faustin, we used to talk. When did I turn into a normal guy into """"the teacher"""".

It's a pressing question, why should we bother putting time and effort into our roles, when all it serves is to have a target painted on us, constantly comparing us to """"the old team"""".

We're different people, from a different time. Your experiences may have been tarred by the old team... Please don't pass that on to us.

Not only that. In the past, everyone who wanted to get in would have gotten in. I've looked through past teacher applications. Less than half the teachers at the time voted on some. Now? We get administrators, teachers, moderators and developers all looking through applications, looking for a reasons that they may not be suited. You may not trust teachers, but do you trust the judgement of the administration team to vet teachers?

Please, I'm begging you all. If you truly think we're bad people, explain why.

Giving out REP's as Teachers is a huge no no. You don't need to be handing out an item that is supposed to be rare and extremely valuable to a player.

I hate to say it, but Teachers are not quality controlled as much as Staff. If we gave Teachers power to give REP's out, it would just increase the border between Player and Teacher.

I can also see the whole "rep" thing becoming dead if they had the ability due to them handing reps out like cookies. Last time they did it a Teacher was handing 10+ Reps out a DAY.

I love hot threads.

Please, take a look at 's post about how they are logged. You're all saying that eveything's going to be the same, ignoring everything that changed between then and now.

Can we get back on topic though? This is not about teachers being able to give REPs, it was just brought up to back up an argument.

(Feb 24, 2017, 11:56 PM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]Please, take a look at 's post about how they are logged. You're all saying that eveything's going to be the same, ignoring everything that changed between then and now.

The fact is only dev's can look at this database and as the old ECSE went, nobody looked. If teachers could give REP out they will be treated like staff which is the opposite of what we all want.

Regarding that thread.

For those who haven't, please check my latest comment.

(Feb 24, 2017, 11:50 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]Giving out REP's as Teachers is a huge no no. You don't need to be handing out an item that is supposed to be rare and extremely valuable to a player.

Thats were admins come wrong here , Reps was created to be handle easly and something to be easy to reward , we had rp points experience in pass , thats the reason why i dont support any feature/item locked behind reps , because admins thing they are to be handling  very rare or when players do amazing rps , when its suppose to be handle for good interactions betweens players ...

As for teachers be able to give reps , i support them , its not big deal , if goes wrong take the power again and remove the reps they gave , simple as that

(Feb 25, 2017, 01:55 AM)The Rock Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb 24, 2017, 11:50 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]Giving out REP's as Teachers is a huge no no. You don't need to be handing out an item that is supposed to be rare and extremely valuable to a player.

Thats were admins come wrong here , Reps was created to be handle easly and something to be easy to reward , we had rp points experience in pass , thats the reason why i dont support any feature/item locked behind reps , because admins thing they are to be handling  very rare or when players do amazing rps , when its suppose to be handle for good interactions betweens players ...

As for teachers be able to give reps , i support them , its not big deal , if goes wrong take the power again and remove the reps they gave , simple as that

Why would we have a special point for good RP's if we just hand them out commonly? It leaves a goal for the players to work towards as just being on the server and doing a job isn't enough to deserve (what is supposed to be) a rare item to unlock rare rewards.

Should have stuck with RPP imo, they were simple but very effective back in my day. *waves cane*

(Feb 25, 2017, 03:32 AM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ]Should have stuck with RPP imo, they were simple but very effective back in my day. *waves cane*

(Feb 24, 2017, 09:35 AM)Doctor Internet Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb 24, 2017, 06:28 AM)thefaketaco Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb 23, 2017, 09:57 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: [ -> ]

(Feb 23, 2017, 09:23 PM)Innovative Wrote: [ -> ]Last time I checked contributors weren't the subject of this discussion, so let's keep it that way.

Why? It's relevant to the issue,

if teachers aren't on the team page, why are contributors when neither were or are part of the staff team?

Contributors do way more work lmao.

I wish I could agree. However, that's not the point of this. Teachers do work, why are they not credited for it? Is it because they don't do enough? If that's the case, why do they always get denied when they try to do more?

I don't suppose you see my issue.

Can't see whats not there