(Feb 23, 2017, 09:23 PM)Innovative Wrote: [ -> ]Last time I checked contributors weren't the subject of this discussion, so let's keep it that way.
(Feb 23, 2017, 10:21 AM)Wishy Wooshy Wrote: [ -> ]Y'know, the tab is literally called "Team". So while yes teachers might not do as much works as say, contributors or developers they are still part of the team! They do a role within Limelight Gaming, they represent the community on a daily basis on the Server and on the Forums.
So the argument "They don't do enough" or "It will make them powermad" is insane. And maybe the fact they even bothered to apply should be of some recognition because they took the initiative and decided to make a difference in the community. Now I know some of you said that technically anyone could do it. but the point is; They don't.
Whether you like it or not Teachers are part of the Limelight team, so taking a 2 dimensional look at everything as most people here do is probably the reason people have issues with the Staff team in the first place.
(Feb 23, 2017, 09:23 PM)Innovative Wrote: [ -> ]Last time I checked contributors weren't the subject of this discussion, so let's keep it that way.
(Feb 23, 2017, 10:56 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]Side note;
If you want players to be (feel) equal to teachers then there is only one solution, terminate the teacher program. There is no inbetween on this. Any rank you may make, it will give off the feeling of inequality (ex. Why is the guy X rank and not me/you/us?). Coming to think of it, even the community is split into two unequal parts (Donors - Members), should we remove donor tag or give members a tag of their to feel "equal"? No.
You shouldn't aim to make teachers be equal to the rest. The community won't feel comfortable because we are equal in terms of power but because they know we are there to help them and answer all of their questions without making fun of them.
We are supposed to be the most approachable people in limelight and still give you an correct, double-checked answer. Approachable isn't achieved by being equal with others but having the qualities mentioned above.
(Feb 23, 2017, 11:46 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 23, 2017, 10:56 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]Side note;
If you want players to be (feel) equal to teachers then there is only one solution, terminate the teacher program. There is no inbetween on this. Any rank you may make, it will give off the feeling of inequality (ex. Why is the guy X rank and not me/you/us?). Coming to think of it, even the community is split into two unequal parts (Donors - Members), should we remove donor tag or give members a tag of their to feel "equal"? No.
You shouldn't aim to make teachers be equal to the rest. The community won't feel comfortable because we are equal in terms of power but because they know we are there to help them and answer all of their questions without making fun of them.
We are supposed to be the most approachable people in limelight and still give you an correct, double-checked answer. Approachable isn't achieved by being equal with others but having the qualities mentioned above.
Thing is, you'll find that if Teachers are put above donators you'll find out quicker than ever that those traits you speak of will disappear. Trust me.
(Feb 24, 2017, 12:16 AM)Project Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 23, 2017, 11:46 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 23, 2017, 10:56 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]Side note;
If you want players to be (feel) equal to teachers then there is only one solution, terminate the teacher program. There is no inbetween on this. Any rank you may make, it will give off the feeling of inequality (ex. Why is the guy X rank and not me/you/us?). Coming to think of it, even the community is split into two unequal parts (Donors - Members), should we remove donor tag or give members a tag of their to feel "equal"? No.
You shouldn't aim to make teachers be equal to the rest. The community won't feel comfortable because we are equal in terms of power but because they know we are there to help them and answer all of their questions without making fun of them.
We are supposed to be the most approachable people in limelight and still give you an correct, double-checked answer. Approachable isn't achieved by being equal with others but having the qualities mentioned above.
Thing is, you'll find that if Teachers are put above donators you'll find out quicker than ever that those traits you speak of will disappear. Trust me.
Mind expanding on this?
(Feb 24, 2017, 12:46 AM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 24, 2017, 12:16 AM)Project Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 23, 2017, 11:46 PM)Preditor Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 23, 2017, 10:56 PM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]Side note;
If you want players to be (feel) equal to teachers then there is only one solution, terminate the teacher program. There is no inbetween on this. Any rank you may make, it will give off the feeling of inequality (ex. Why is the guy X rank and not me/you/us?). Coming to think of it, even the community is split into two unequal parts (Donors - Members), should we remove donor tag or give members a tag of their to feel "equal"? No.
You shouldn't aim to make teachers be equal to the rest. The community won't feel comfortable because we are equal in terms of power but because they know we are there to help them and answer all of their questions without making fun of them.
We are supposed to be the most approachable people in limelight and still give you an correct, double-checked answer. Approachable isn't achieved by being equal with others but having the qualities mentioned above.
Thing is, you'll find that if Teachers are put above donators you'll find out quicker than ever that those traits you speak of will disappear. Trust me.
Mind expanding on this?
For the sake of secrecy and not leaking my word is all I can give you, Sorry.
(Feb 24, 2017, 12:59 AM)Brynn Wrote: [ -> ]I have been apart of the teacher program, I've seen majority of the people in the teacher team. Personally, I don't think teachers should be on the team page. I have gotten this opinion from personal experience when being on the teacher team. When they're (not pointing fingers) given certain things/powers, they tend to act more like admins/staff. This is something I have seen happen multiple times.
See post above.
The teachers are not meant to be anything different to the average donators,
Yet we only accept the best limelight has to offer? Most of the time teachers are being looked upon as better than the average player because of their capabilities even before they are even promoted.
personally, adding them to the team page would draw a rather large line between the player and the teacher ranks.
How exactly? Because we are acknowledged that we are a team that is voluntarily assisting limelight?
Now, I've noticed many people mention contributors. Now, I was the person who got them added to the team page.The contributors do a lot of additions to the gamemode/servers.
It was brought up at the start, like teachers, they volunteer their skills for free, much like I volunteer using my time to teach players or organize events. Contributors are already credited on the F1 menu about their work and we are not talking about removing them but either putting us next to them or create a page where all volunteer team are shown.
I am not saying the teachers do not do stuff, but they do not do as much as the contributors. Helping people is not as hard as something such as coding.
Correct me if wrong but no one said we are doing something more difficult, I will say though we are doing something as important as coding updates. By giving new players a helping hand we give them a bigger chance of staying on LL, while taking a call the staff team would ignore and actually investing time in it.
(Feb 24, 2017, 01:29 AM)Project Wrote: [ -> ]Yet we only accept the best limelight has to offer? Most of the time teachers are being looked upon as better than the average player because of their capabilities even before they are even promoted.