[GRiiM]

Is that why when I asked you to edit clan models you came back to me 2 days later empty handed with an excuse? If they're so easy to make I mean.

Converting ragdolls to playermodels is a bit different to adding pre-existing player models, especially when Source has been a bit of a cunt in that area. Honestly have no idea why it ends up being buggy like this:

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When all I did was decompile and recompile a hl2 model with exactly the same settings. It's worked fine before in the past but now it doesn't want to.
Thanks.

[Askasta]

We actully dont need Moneypacks

People instead buying moneypacks they sold donator for 100k and earned money in that way so both players are happy

The Seller is happy with 100k Money

The Buyer is happy with 90 days donator

if none sells donator im fukt up :C

[The Imaginative Lad]

I see this is a direct copy from the old community, sorry for referencing them but that is all I see it as. I thought we were suppose to be different. This is one of the many reasons I moved from them to here (mainly as IRL friends moved here, including Brynn as the only times I really go on is with friends, otherwise it is just boring and dead).

You are just adding this community, think of it as the start of a crack in a dam, this is one of the cracks. A dam can only crack so much before it crumbles and collapses.

You had one of the only economies for the RP game modes that actually worked and wasn't too corrupted.

Been inactive for a while but may go completely inactive if this goes pear shaped.

[GRiiM]

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Agreed. Right now there are only 11 people online on v33x and v2d has been a ghost town for months. It's a weekday evening but that shouldn't matter too much, I think the dam is already crumbling and has been for a while now.

[Noble]

[size=1em]Posting this here without permission since this discussion is getting out of hand. This new addition to the donating system is to help fund new things for the server, such as this:
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It's not a cash grab, and funding large scale projects such as this run the risk of cutting into donations used to fund the server hosting costs. As you can see from the donation tab player donations have been dropping for a while now, additions like this can help give the server a kick start and get people interested in LL again.

[Obay]

Noble!! :O
That was supposed to be a surprise!! :')

[Noble]

Noble!! :O
That was supposed to be a surprise!! :')

It was the only way to get people to stop thinking this was for staff gain or something. Don't worry, there are plenty more surprises.

[Obay]

Don't worry about us
But yeah, SPOILER ALERT!!

[Maniac]

I really don't understand why people cry about moneypacks and how it is "destroying the economy". What fucking economy? All that's going to happen is that people might drive some more expensive cars and walk around in suits with bigger guns. Who actually gives a shit about that? There's only that much to spend your money on.

When a new player joins the server and is impressed by it, he will want to stay. But he doesn't want to sit on his ass in a room for 100 hours to get the money he needs for that 1 car or suit. The player will donate and both Limelight and the player will benefit from it.

For example: (outdated picture)

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How is this not broken already? I don't see anyone complaining about the current rich players, because they don't bother anyone with it.

[Askasta]

how you cna see the economy i never saw that xD i heard about "economy" today xD maybe give a link or a pic ?

[The Imaginative Lad]

[size=1em]Posting this here without permission since this discussion is getting out of hand. This new addition to the donating system is to help fund new things for the server, such as this:
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Spoiler

It's not a cash grab, and funding large scale projects such as this run the risk of cutting into donations used to fund the server hosting costs. As you can see from the donation tab player donations have been dropping for a while now, additions like this can help give the server a kick start and get people interested in LL again.

What you have just told me and the community is something that we already know. There is a simple solution to this, shut down servers that have little to no usuage. For example, V2D as Grim mentioned already is a "ghost town" and well in my opinion, and no doubt some other peoples opinion, should be shut down for you to then handle your budget on servers that people do play on.

IRL Ghost towns are usaully when people move out for many reasons involving economics, location and government funding. When the funding lacks it runs derilict and is abandoned. Plenty of examples of these in the modern society especially in LEDC countries.
- I just went insanely off topic here woops let me just put it back on track.

Shutting down v2d would mean that you don't have % of budget, server resources and other things to worry about for that server. That extra % could be used for V33x instead of comprimising RP.

Also yeah it will kickstart it but it won't be long until it stalls and then what have you got left to pull out of the bag.

[Preditor]

I'm very disappointed by many of the replies to this thread. We are not FL, and we will never be FL. We have reasons, and as noble also displayed we have future plans. Some of these plans we cannot expand without donation money, which at the moment is not at it's very best. I don't know why many of you want to think that we are misusing our powers. Even back on FL it was just ONE INDIVIDUAL who was abusing the donation money, and it was none of the people here in this community. All because we allow people to donate for money packs does not mean it's the end of the world. Nor are we "crumbling".

As Burnett had stated earlier, you all had a chance to voice your opinions. (https://limelightgaming.net/index.php?topic=2227.0%29

So please, stop arguing and flaming.

[The Imaginative Lad]

ok I wasted my time, no wonder I have been very inactive here.

One more thing, "Nor are we "crumbling""
It is evident that you are, look at your player count on v33x, look at the ghost town on v2d, look at some of the brilliant veteran admins leave.

This will only make it worse, yes it may have been one individual on another community but it only takes one to abuse the system and boom! it backfires.

I know everything I have said means fuck all and that I have wasted my evening(as the decision was made).

I am going to leave till after January (A2 mock exams) now and hope you will all still be here in the new year. see ya.

[Rayts5]

[quote author=Noble link=topic=2808.msg26914#msg26914 date=1447964878]
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V2D and V33x are hosted on the same server, therefore it won't lower cost unless they buy lower specs.

Of course it is possible to run a proper economy in Garry's Mod. PERP servers are thriving quite well at this for example. But we are dealing with virtual currency, which means that we have to be creative, and in fact, we can actually be creative. Adding money packs? Hmm, creative. For a Minecraft server. "Pay X $/£/Currency for 64 diamonds!"

No, seriously. You can make the prices of items dynamic compared to math.random, or a stock market index. As the previous guy wrote, you can also add a stock market which is a quite good idea in my opinion, as it can be a potential money sink or inflation, varying on how skilled they are with stocks. There are many more possibilities.

But yeah, the big problem is the low amount of players on the server currently, which makes it hard to establish a proper economy. In order to get players, you have to find a reason for players to get into the community.

[Pinky]

Meth fucked everything BEFORE moneypacks.