[bimkx]

humla you make me want to tear my fucking eyes out

[Humla]

humla you make me want to tear my fucking eyes out

If you can't add anything to the discussion then I suggest you don't write anything more in this thread. You could at least evaluate on your statement.

[bimkx]

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humla you make me want to tear my fucking eyes out

If you can't add anything to the discussion then I suggest you don't write anything more in this thread. You could at least evaluate on your statement.
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i just happen to think you're a xenophobic prick.
nothing else.

[jarz]

Coming home to this, holy shit.

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Enzyme:

People are 100% allowed to practice as they please, or at least they should be allowed to. You're right that it was a little ignorant for Freezak to say that teaching Islam can do that to some people, because he should of said "that teaching extremist/extreme/radical Islam can do that to some people." ISIS is a huge threat to society, and with first world countries opening its borders, it just gives them a playing ground to do whatever they see fit.

I expect a major bombing to occur in Germany, Sweden, or any other nation with open borders within 6 months.

Enz, I however find it very convenient that, as a Norway resident, you agree with nations opening their borders. I must note that Norway has not opened its borders, therein giving you no right to attest first hand what these migrants act like.

Norway is also conveniently NOT multicultural.


You may call it a biased way to break up an argument, but to be completely truthful I don't want this thread closed too... now kiss.

1. I've not stated that I agree nor disagree with opening borders, nor does Norway keep it's borders closed for immigrants and refugees. I've provided links in a point under this one.

I meant extremely sealed to the point where migrants hardly have the chance to get in legally, and are in fact breaching your borders illegally due to this, my apologies......

2. I consider myself a well educated person; at-least educated enough to know a thing or two about immigration and the refugees. I don't believe that you've had any personal experience yourself with these refugees nor any ISIS members for that sake so I don't feel that you're talking from first experience yourself.

Norway is a very intelligent country, so I do not doubt it. This is why I'm confused as to why you are saying the following:

Sure there's a clear problem with the immense refugee-wave that Europe is currently exploiting; something ISIS are exploiting fully.

3. Norway IS multicultural. I know this because I live in Norway; something you do not.

According to Statistics Norway the immigrant population make up 15.6 per cent of the population in Norway.[1] The number includes immigrants and children born in Norway to two immigrant parents. The five largest immigrant groups in Norway are in turn Polish, Swedish, Somali, Lithuanian and Pakistani.[1]

LMFAO I'm seriously cracking up here. You say 15.6 percent of the population of Norway is immigrants, fair enough, I never disputed this so I see no relevance. You then proceed to state that 3/5 of the top immigrant groups are white, the other two in the latter. Can you please argue my original point, where I state that 94.4% of Norway, according to multiple sources located on the top of Google results page? To me at this point you're looking for ways to combat my arguments by stating stuff I'm not even arguing about.

At the beginning of 1992 the immigrant population in Norway was 183,000 persons, or 4.3 per cent of the total population. 23 years later, at the beginning of 2015, the number had risen to 815,000 persons, (or 15.6 per cent of the population.) The immigration has increased drastically in recent years, with net immigration exceeding 40,000.[2]

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4. You seem to forget that USA is built by immigrants who left their own homes in hope of being successful in USA.

Come on, I just agreed that Norway's education system is good. The American education system at least got this right. I'm going to ignore the fact that this completely justifies my point I said in "3."

To me at this point you're looking for ways to combat my arguments by stating stuff I'm not even arguing about.

Because this has absolutely nothing to do with it.

If you want a history lesson on why the Puritans came to America, PM me, I would be happy to enlighten you.

5. You're completely missing my point here; but I feel that you are a part of the problem with what I'm seeing on the news sub-forum. I don't expect you to actually see this from another view than your own, honestly.

My point IS that it's interesting how you guys love to both focus on and highlight the fact that these people are Muslim, as if that got something to do with their actions at all.



Enzyme I might be at my breaking point here. This is simply unacceptable.

It's absolutely fucking pathetic for you to BLAME ME (look above the picture, I highlighted it.) for naming my articles after either the ACTUAL ARTICLE TITLE FROM THE SOURCE, or simply stating a name, highlights the fact that these people are muslim.

This also holds true with Humla, who formed his title loosely after his articles title. Look at the source and you tell me.

Freezak does not provide direct links, however links to the credible sources, so I cannot comment on that.

What really pisses me off here is that you don't highlight Safira's article, which mentions a Sikh man. Since the Sikh man is a victim, it's 100% OK in your eyes all of the sudden to specify a mans beliefs.

I don't know if you have ever taking a Journalism class, but I have, and in that class I learned that it's important to add descriptive detail into your article to attract to a target audience.

My point is that there's a lot of biased and negative view and wording when it comes to Muslims and immigrants/refugees here in the news sub-forum; a sub-forum where the news are hardly presented in an unbiased way. What does them being Muslim have anything to do with the actions they committed? Why isn't there any focus on a person if he's christian, catholic or atheist? I can also point out that the only articles you guys have written about is one where one or more Muslims are involved where the "news-article" you've written is also negative towards it in one way or another. If you dislike Muslims then fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion but you should discuss this on a different forum than LL.

1) We do this to spread the word. The migrant crisis is killing these countries. It's unfortunate but it's true. You're literally bringing in ISIS, and you said it yourself. Why the hell would anybody risk that. You're going to kill your own people by letting in the refugees.

2) I was unaware that Christians, Catholics and Atheists are the main group of the migrant crisis.

3) I personally like Muslims, and it's pretty stereotypical for me to say this but I do indeed have a number of Muslim friends. However, what would you like for us to call them? Is migrants more fitting? The reason why the media is doing this is because in 10-15 years, there will be no such thing as a 'migrant' as we see it today. It's a short-term word for a person. Muslim, however, are not. If I run into a Christian migrant raping a 7 year old girl, I'll be sure to submit an article.
If I say that a black man rapes a white woman, and say it in a news thread, does this mean I am talking about all the black people in the world? No. I'm talking about THIS black man. This goes for here. I'm talking about THIS Muslim, not all of them.

Red Answer: It's a way to describe who they are. Migrant is not fitting becau - Read answer 3 above.

Blue Answer: TIL We write these articles.

LimeLight is not the place for you to spread propaganda about Muslims and immigrants.
You're free to share your political views elsewhere but it doesn't belong here. It's too hostile, biased and unneeded.
The news are not being presented in an unbiased view and unnecessary information is being brought up to make connections or explanations where there isn't one.

We aren't spreading propaganda, we are spreading the truth. You said it yourself in the paragraph below. ISIS is infiltrating Europe. I feel like stating that not a single news thread I've posted contains anything regarding ISIS, so don't throw ME in to this. The news threads that Humla and Freezak create are more for ISIS. If you look at the source of this news thread, you will notice that the title of it is more brutal than this one. Freezak's threads mostly contain ISIS related material, however one states that a Muslim migrant raped a 7 year old.


Sure there's a clear problem with the immense refugee-wave that Europe is currently exploiting; something ISIS are exploiting fully. This doesn't mean that the refugees themselves are bad. They are poor, starving and forced to leave their  homes out of sheer desperation. Sure a lot of the refugees have caused major problems but so does hooligans and other people. There will always be assholes and bastards; no matter what religion they believe in or where they come from.

They aren't bad, but the people they are intertwined with are absolutely repulsive.

YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT THEY CAUSE MAJOR PROBLEMS, BUT IT'S OK BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ASSHOLES. Enzyme none of this is personal and I hope you know I like you, but this is pitiful.

Just separate the innocent from the problem-makers instead of putting them all in the same box.

We can't do that. That's why we are saying bringing the migrants into your countries is a terrible idea, because there's no filter, and ISIS is ALREADY inside of Germany. I wish we can help the Muslim migrants, but we can't.

Enzyme: Do you think you should risk your own peoples of Norway's safety, or do you think you should lock your borders down and ensure your peoples are not harmed.

Now I will say this the last time:

LimeLight is not the place to spread political propaganda and insulting and discriminating opinions on other people.
LimeLight is a friendly community with members from all over the world; and the last thing we need is for a shit-storm.
This is a highly controversial topic and if it cannot be presented and discussed in a proper and unbiased manner; then end it. I've already contacted a few members regarding this and I will remove posting-ability if the issue continues.
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hope I didn't miss anything.

edit: I'm out of this discussion, I don't want to waste my time further, by arguing with people who think letting in ISIS is a good idea. This was obviously posted after the one 2 posts down, just in case somebody tries to call me out on it.

[Jono]

When limelight turns into tumblr.

Interesting thread, hopefully it won't be locked.

[jarz]

Found this gem on another forums

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BBC:
"These poor refugees just want to be safe from war."

Syrian refugee:
"I go back to my country, it’s Germany or nothing," he demanded, adding, "I'[ll] go back [to] my country. Of course."

If I cannot stay in Germany, I will go back to Syria - yeah, sounds just like someone that is scared for their life as the BBC would have you believe.

A picture paints a thousand words:



Seems like bit of a trek just to get to safety.

[Zzzzap]

Canada is multi-cultural and things have worked out quite well for us.

Dude, Canada is multicultural from western civilizations. Middle Eastern immigrants in Canada is LESS than 1% of total population, compare this to European countries that have up to 20% middle eastern immigrants.

[GLOgangGreedXD]

Why isn't there any focus on a person if he's christian, catholic or atheist?

Cause they don't mass immigrate to other countries and turn those countries to shit, and also go on a benefit vacation to scandinavia and whine about bad internet connection in the refugee camps and god knows what

(Also they don't make groups of 30.000 warriors and brutally mass-murder people who don't believe in them, and they don't bomb people (as much))

[GLOgangGreedXD]

This picture... Perfect

To anyone denying that scandinavia has lost this battle.... F**k off hippie