[C Lee]

[Astro2K]

I was the fire chief, I didn't really get involved I just stood there silently in disbelief.

We were RP'ing as a fire department with a tight budget and mechanical issues as a result of the budget, just some simple passive RP. 

Before our meeting with the president Mr Paramedic got rather annoyed at our fire engine parking bay choices, kinda weird if you ask me, the police officer I believe was Riggs proceeded to complain in radio chat and cause a unnecessary issue, what does the police have to do with the FD? At this point the situation was still rather calm and required no police intervention. 

After coming out of the meeting we made our way to the fire station and the situation played out a little like this:

The paramedic wanted to park his truck in the bay but we had fire trucks occupying all 3 bays, not to mention it was broken down, this was in character and the engine was fully functional, but as you know, it was all part of the passive RP. We were prepared to move the engine as you can see in the video below, two cops which included Riggs and 1 other proceeded to involve them self directly, which I guess is reasonable as they acted to mediate the situation, however they just complicated the situation.


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Sorry I didn't capture it all, I didn't know we were doing a PR until a few minutes later so shadowplay was a little behind.

[Riggs]

[Astro2K]

[Riggs]

" to return to some wacky dupe, we just assumed nothing of it and operated as normal. " you siad to us IC it was "graffiti"?, anyway at the time "There was a pool of oil under the chiefs engine" i wasnot able to see it UNTILL i moved the engine, as i didnot look behind the engine, on guvs screen it was a error so he wouldnot have been able to tell me it was there.

[Astro2K]

" to return to some wacky dupe, we just assumed nothing of it and operated as normal. " you siad to us IC it was "graffiti"?, anyway at the time "There was a pool of oil under the chiefs engine" i wasnot able to see it UNTILL i moved the engine, as i didnot look behind the engine, on guvs screen it was a error so he wouldnot have been able to tell me it was there.

In character we had no idea of what the dupe was, it could have been graffiti, we had no idea.
Whether or not there was a pool of oil does not negate the fact that we told you multiple times the engine had broken down, in emergency services you usually have the basic level of respect to take their word for it, why would a fire department lie about a broken down fire engine.

I also forgot to reply to the question about the vehicle choice for the Chief, we wanted to run 3 fire engines and are unaware of any rule saying the chief cant run a fire engine. We wanted all 3 different trucks for RP

[C Lee]

Precisely. We had no clue as to what "Ambo" was referencing. A google search yielded nothing so we just went with the other half of the sign. "Chief". 

Moreover, if there was an Error Sign there... it probably suggests that there is a prop there... A prop that suggest the current state of the truck. Moreover our engineer even mentioned the fact that there was transmission fluid. 

There was a meeting, to which I mentioned that two of the engines were not working. The other didn't have a working pump. ( a meeting i'm pretty sure you were present in)  

You asked us to move the vehicle. I requested a Tow truck. You said no. So I had Darius bring round the truck that was working, you can even see that when you were handcuffing me, I was in the process of using the tow. 

You then arrested us for following your orders and justified it by exploiting a game mechanic.

[Riggs]

"You then arrested us for following your orders" we didnot give you any oders to tow the engine you're self.

the prop was not a error for me only guv, also it was not visable when i got into the truck 


EDIT: "Ambo" commonly used for ambulance. also you never asked for a tow truck from us?

[C Lee]

We did ask for a tow truck. I asked twice. 
I'm not going to deliberate what happened in character. 

I am however pointing out what you did, despite of what was said and was clear in character. We were RP'ing that the department was underfunded. 

We not only had props to support our Roleplay but we even told you, what was happening in character.  

You then used the fact that the vehicle was still usable as grounds to justify an arrest.... FailRP, Power gaming and Metagaming.

Edit. I'd also like to mentioned this: "also if it WAS the "chiefs" engine why did nobody tell us that?."
 - You clearly knew... You criticised the chief for using it, saying that the chief should have an SUV. So you knew it was the chiefs truck. We also told you that it was the chiefs truck when you asked us why we had a truck in that bay... Chiefs truck, Ladder truck and the spare bay went to the responding truck. Moreover, to even get a warrant you have to know whose vehicle it is... 

[Guv]

[Astro2K]

[C Lee]

Moreover, the Feline incident was only part of the RP - We had brought a house at Corleone off of someone for extensive training. Which was accompanied by a tent that was put up (logs will back that up), for large scale training. We also closed off part of Corleone for this. The only reason we didn't extend the training RP further was because Dutch, (or so I believe) was involved in a shooting... He then escaped in a UPS  van, we called it in. irreverent yes, but its partly why we weren't able to respond to calls... We were in the area of a shootout...

Furthermore, WE DID respond to calls the second the shooter had been handled. There was a suicide incident in which we brought the ladder truck. However upon arrival that RP had concluded. We returned to station and made our way to the Nexus. 

Your disjointed understanding of what we were doing, as a result of not actually being present bares no relevance to this PR. And as Astro rightly said. You introduced some form of authority and took charge of the situation, leaving us little room to actually RP. You expect us to RP out a broken truck, and moving it in literal minutes after having the meeting? Please, give me a break. As a teacher, your role is actually to improve the RP, not rush or prematurely end it to suit your own RP.  

Me and Astro are not American. We've never heard of the term Ambo. And, regardless - as far as we were concerned the right vehicle was parked in the right bay. The chiefs vehicle. You're capable of asking what the error signs are. And given we had already, on multiple occasions stated what was present in that station (Transmission fluid) other than /me there isn't much more we can do. We said, in clear English. We are underfunded, our trucks are broken. We requested a tow. And again, none of this is relevant because its in character. The issue here lies in the rule breakage. Which is again, exploiting game mechanics and in turn power gaming.

[Guv]

3.1 - Your character needs to have a valid in-character reason for their actions, especially ones that harm or otherwise affect other players. The action needs to be appropriate to the reason

few points id like to make on this

We are underfunded, our trucks are broken.

So when i went on shift the department, Had 3 trucks that was able to drive to corleone, on that note: be able to fund a training session. and drive back. again all of a sudden, they break down. fair enough they broke down at a moments notice. more specifically you say "our trucks are broken". so i dont know which way rp is going here. Whether you mean, Generally in a bad condition due to lack of funds. or because they have broken down . so reasoning behind this might useful for us to know. as by rping for the trucks breaking down. is affecting players. by potentially leaving them in a deadly situation. as in Not getting to a person in house fire, or RTC etc.

[C Lee]

Again, your disjointed understanding of what we were doing, as a result of not actually being present bares no relevance to this PR. We were driving our trucks at low speed... Because they were faulty. We did this to the training exercise and when returning from the training exercise. We did this with the cruise control command (Logs will confirm this). I believe it was either 20 or 30 MPH. Moreover, one of the vehilces actually did break down. (the big truck) Logs will confirm Darius buying a tool kit. 

You're ignorant of what happened because you didn't witness our RP and this also bares no relevance, nor does it detract from the fact that somebody used /warrant to determine whether a vehicle was faulty. 

Moreover, we would have responded to emergencies IN THE FUNCTIONING TRUCK THAT WE LITERALLY USED TO TRY AND TOW THE ENGINE YOU ASKED US TO MOVE

[Riggs]