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So what did I do exactly? This was handled IC by the president.
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(Jun 13, 2018, 10:32 PM)B.. Wrote: So what did I do exactly? This was handled IC by the president.

Let me rephrase. What rules did I break?
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(Jun 13, 2018, 10:37 PM)B.. Wrote:
(Jun 13, 2018, 10:32 PM)B.. Wrote: So what did I do exactly? This was handled IC by the president.

Let me rephrase. What rules did I break?

That’s down to the admins to decide, but you were minging around with the VP and and other SSA, dangerously driving around the map for no apparent reason and assisting the other two in breaking the rules. 

I submitted the PR before it was “handled ICly” so I’m not aware of that - and even then the rules were still broken by your party, last time I checked the president isn’t a member of staff.
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(Jun 13, 2018, 10:52 PM)Judge Rage Wrote:
(Jun 13, 2018, 10:37 PM)B.. Wrote:
(Jun 13, 2018, 10:32 PM)B.. Wrote: So what did I do exactly? This was handled IC by the president.

Let me rephrase. What rules did I break?

That’s down to the admins to decide, but you were minging around with the VP and and other SSA, dangerously driving around the map for no apparent reason and assisting the other two in breaking the rules. 

I submitted the PR before it was “handled ICly” so I’m not aware of that - and even then the rules were still broken by your party, last time I checked the president isn’t a member of staff.
Can you list the rules I broke. Would be appreciated.
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Jun 14, 2018, 03:36 PM
(Jun 13, 2018, 10:52 PM)Judge Rage Wrote:
(Jun 13, 2018, 10:37 PM)B.. Wrote:
(Jun 13, 2018, 10:32 PM)B.. Wrote: So what did I do exactly? This was handled IC by the president.

Let me rephrase. What rules did I break?

That’s down to the admins to decide, but you were minging around with the VP and and other SSA, dangerously driving around the map for no apparent reason and assisting the other two in breaking the rules. 

I submitted the PR before it was “handled ICly” so I’m not aware of that - and even then the rules were still broken by your party, last time I checked the president isn’t a member of staff.

Last time I checked, don't post a PR without knowing what rules the people you're accusing broke.
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Jun 14, 2018, 04:37 PM
I as unable to post a list last night as I was just about to go to bed. 

I will post a fuller list in about an hour when I get home. 

I will say however that you should be aware of the rules that you broke, it’s incredibly unrealistic to speed around the map for no reason and take drugs again for no reason - at the very least thats failrp. 

I will convert the .dem into a more manageable video format if required as I didn’t have time to I do that last night.
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Jun 14, 2018, 06:12 PM
Quote:3.1 - Your character needs to have a valid in-character reason for their actions, especially ones that harm or otherwise affect other players.

Quote:3.3 - Do not do unrealistic things out of context (FailRP). Think of reasons for your actions and what you do and ask yourself if it’s realistic – e.g running around the city punching everyone as the President is FailRP. This also applies to unrealistic buildings out of context.

What was your in-character reason for getting extremely drunk, overdosing on drugs, giving random civillians illegal drugs, speeding and drifting around the map with no care, consideration or regard for others?

Quote:5.1 - Do not run people over on purpose (CDM), and always try to brake/avoid people on the roads.

Wheatcake made very little or no attempt to brake to avoid 123 as well as crashing whilst recklessly driving, and then you and the VP attempted to absolve yourselves of all responsibility for the incident, drunk or not.

I find all three of your actions to be highly unrealistic, mingey and quite frankly to the detriment of good roleplay in the server.
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Jun 14, 2018, 08:33 PM
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"Judge, at what point did I break rules exactly? You haven't said anything about me breaking rules so far. If you could kindly remove me from this as if it gets accepted my name will be shown."

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(Jun 14, 2018, 08:33 PM)D3ST Wrote: Posting for B.. as he cannot access his account.

"Judge, at what point did I break rules exactly? You haven't said anything about me breaking rules so far. If you could kindly remove me from this as if it gets accepted my name will be shown."



At no point did you attempt to stop your colleagues or the VP from breaking the laws, or report them to a higher authority, in fact you were breaking several of them yourself - something which I think is failRP. If requested by an admin I'll happily remove you from the case.
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Jun 14, 2018, 08:49 PM
(Jun 14, 2018, 06:12 PM)Judge Rage Wrote:
Quote:3.1 - Your character needs to have a valid in-character reason for their actions, especially ones that harm or otherwise affect other players.

Quote:3.3 - Do not do unrealistic things out of context (FailRP). Think of reasons for your actions and what you do and ask yourself if it’s realistic – e.g running around the city punching everyone as the President is FailRP. This also applies to unrealistic buildings out of context.

What was your in-character reason for getting extremely drunk, overdosing on drugs, giving random civillians illegal drugs, speeding and drifting around the map with no care, consideration or regard for others?

Quote:5.1 - Do not run people over on purpose (CDM), and always try to brake/avoid people on the roads.

Wheatcake made very little or no attempt to brake to avoid 123 as well as crashing whilst recklessly driving, and then you and the VP attempted to absolve yourselves of all responsibility for the incident, drunk or not.

I find all three of your actions to be highly unrealistic, mingey and quite frankly to the detriment of good roleplay in the server.
Firstly, I was not drunk nor did I harm anyone with drugs or distribute them, so I have no idea if that is aimed towards me or not. The reason I collapsed was because I accidentally hit a bind that made me use cocaine. I had the wrong autoexec.cfg file loaded during that session. (The autoexec.cfg contains all my binds so that they don't conflict with other servers or playstyles that I play)

Secondly, I did not purposely CDM 123. I did attempt to break, which is why my car swerved and blew up when I hit the tree next to him, my front end ended up 'tapping' him which killed him. The reason I was speeding was because the Vice President told me to, which we did as he was blackmailing me and Brin which was all sorted In-Character, which is why I had my lights on when driving dangerously.
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(Jun 14, 2018, 08:49 PM)Wheatcake Wrote:
(Jun 14, 2018, 06:12 PM)Judge Rage Wrote:
Quote:3.1 - Your character needs to have a valid in-character reason for their actions, especially ones that harm or otherwise affect other players.

Quote:3.3 - Do not do unrealistic things out of context (FailRP). Think of reasons for your actions and what you do and ask yourself if it’s realistic – e.g running around the city punching everyone as the President is FailRP. This also applies to unrealistic buildings out of context.

What was your in-character reason for getting extremely drunk, overdosing on drugs, giving random civillians illegal drugs, speeding and drifting around the map with no care, consideration or regard for others?

Quote:5.1 - Do not run people over on purpose (CDM), and always try to brake/avoid people on the roads.

Wheatcake made very little or no attempt to brake to avoid 123 as well as crashing whilst recklessly driving, and then you and the VP attempted to absolve yourselves of all responsibility for the incident, drunk or not.

I find all three of your actions to be highly unrealistic, mingey and quite frankly to the detriment of good roleplay in the server.
Firstly, I was not drunk nor did I harm anyone with drugs or distribute them, so I have no idea if that is aimed towards me or not. The reason I collapsed was because I accidentally hit a bind that made me use cocaine. I had the wrong autoexec.cfg file loaded during that session. (The autoexec.cfg contains all my binds so that they don't conflict with other servers or playstyles that I play)

Secondly, I did not purposely CDM 123. I did attempt to break, which is why my car swerved and blew up when I hit the tree next to him, my front end ended up 'tapping' him which killed him. The reason I was speeding was because the Vice President told me to, which we did as he was blackmailing me and Brin which was all sorted In-Character, which is why I had my lights on when driving dangerously.

Don't lie in the courthouse. The CDM of 123 and you crashing into a tree were seperate incidents, as 123 can confirm when he sees this thread - you CDMed him before, this was the first threat to demote me and then you guys all left to speed around again, and the second time you came around was when you crashed into a tree.

Even if it was an accidental attempt, why would you lie in the courthouse?
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So me not stopping people breaking the rules and backseat administrating is break rules? Make a simple list Judge like this. Rules Brin broke: list. Also we were Rping that anton was forcing us do it or we lost pour jobs. Was solved IC again.

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(Jun 14, 2018, 09:39 PM)D3ST Wrote: Posting for B..

So me not stopping people breaking the rules and backseat administrating is break rules? Make a simple list Judge like this. Rules Brin broke: list. Also we were Rping that anton was forcing us do it or we lost pour jobs. Was solved IC again.


I never mentioned the rules, I mentioned the laws. As a Secret Service Agent you are still an LEO, you could have placed the VP under arrest to take him to the President or you could have discreetly reported it to the President. Instead, you were quite content speeding and recklessly driving around the city assisting the Vice President in getting drunk and high for no real reason (3.1, 3.3) instead of doing your lawful duty - which, last time I checked law enforcement were required to do. 

I never told you to backseat administrate - if you had believed rules were being broken you could have used @ and called an online administrator. 

Also, at this point the "Anton was forcing us to do it" kind of thing is hearsay without any kind of proof...

What was solved IC?
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Jun 14, 2018, 10:09 PM
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Response@ The whole situation about me, anton and wheat was solved IC cus we all get demoted. Ask sours.

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