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ZooM's Unban Request
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May 8, 2018, 09:28 PM
I was the guy who MISFIRED the shot, you and your friends clearly heard me shout “Misfire” multiple times after shooting. As Stell has pointed out, I and 2-3 other officers had weapons pointed at you for a majority of this situation yet you fail to abide by FearRP multiple times. I will post further when I am back on my computer  later tonight.
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May 8, 2018, 10:02 PM
(May 8, 2018, 09:28 PM)Stell90 Wrote:
(May 8, 2018, 09:24 PM)ZooM Wrote:
(May 8, 2018, 09:20 PM)Stell90 Wrote: Please look at the time stamps that I gave you.

You had weapons pointed at you and you never followed the orders that they gave you.
Is that why I stood beside the police car as ordered but still got tased?

Yes, you got tased due to you failing to follow fear RP, as multiple times you were given orders by the cops to face the vehicles but failed to do so.

At 3:29 I did follow orders. I moved to the vehicle. Not sure what you are saying.
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May 8, 2018, 10:09 PM
"Move to the hood of the vehicle" - Sours x15

You never did you stood to the side of the car as well.

I would need @"Cole_"  's input on this but, if I remember correctly, you accidentally tased him. But, even so you moved to the passenger side door not the hood of the vehicle.
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May 8, 2018, 10:12 PM
I was the first police officer by the RV telling you all to get out of the RV. but I noticed that my mic was muted and therefore you coulden't hear me.

I still had my gun in my hand and started to point it at you guys when the rv started to ram the police cars again, while other officers told you guys to get out and get on the ground.

You also order your secret service agents to shoot the police if they try to arrest you in Swedish on discord at 0:55 in the video.
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May 8, 2018, 10:17 PM
In regards to the expansion of my previous message. You, and your SSA, break FearRP at multiple times in the video (see Stell's timestamps for proof). Let me also add a comment regarding your "there should be no conflict within the government comment", the Police can arrest the President so long as they have a valid enough reason (of which we had), the President is not above the law; no one is.

You was driving down the road in a 1980s RV of which then proceeded to ram an LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers) vehicle, you knew what you did wrong and is very clear in the video that we all had our lights and (some) sirens meaning that you should've stopped in the first place and should not have even attempted to move your vehicle, especially if you knew you had bad input lag at the time. This leads me onto my next part of this, once you'd finished ramming the vehicles into myself and another Officer we proceeded to pull you out of your vehicle, at which you, once again, can clearly see in the video failed to abide by FearRP for at least 4-5 seconds straight before you finally got out of the RV.

To add to that, in the second part of the video you can too blatantly see yourself and your SSA breaking FearRP. Multiple officers in the video, one of them being myself, told the three of you an excessive amount of times to face the vehicle yet you failed to face it for a majority of the situation. I fail to see any sort of redemption for your actions in this UBR but to try and turn it onto the punishing member of staff and the other Police Officer's hands.
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May 8, 2018, 10:37 PM
(May 8, 2018, 10:17 PM)Cole_ Wrote: In regards to the expansion of my previous message. You, and your SSA, break FearRP at multiple times in the video (see Stell's timestamps for proof). Let me also add a comment regarding your "there should be no conflict within the government comment", the Police can arrest the President so long as they have a valid enough reason (of which we had), the President is not above the law; no one is.

You was driving down the road in a 1980s RV of which then proceeded to ram an LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers) vehicle, you knew what you did wrong and is very clear in the video that we all had our lights and (some) sirens meaning that you should've stopped in the first place and should not have even attempted to move your vehicle, especially if you knew you had bad input lag at the time. This leads me onto my next part of this, once you'd finished ramming the vehicles into myself and another Officer we proceeded to pull you out of your vehicle, at which you, once again, can clearly see in the video failed to abide by FearRP for at least 4-5 seconds straight before you finally got out of the RV.

To add to that, in the second part of the video you can too blatantly see yourself and your SSA breaking FearRP. Multiple officers in the video, one of them being myself, told the three of you an excessive amount of times to face the vehicle yet you failed to face it for a majority of the situation. I fail to see any sort of redemption for your actions in this UBR but to try and turn it onto the punishing member of staff and the other Police Officer's hands.

A president has something called immunity. I suggest you check your facts before stating them.
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May 8, 2018, 10:51 PM
@ZooM, can you provide evidence of this "fact" you are claiming I am wrong about? As I am seeing multiple websites state the same thing on the website to the answer of the question "Does the President have immunity from prosecution?"; No.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/...prosecuted
https://www.quora.com/Does-a-sitting-Pre...rosecution
And a member of the administrative team.
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May 8, 2018, 10:58 PM
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Can you explain to me, why you were using 3rd party software to command your SSA when you were under fear RP.
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May 9, 2018, 07:46 AM
(May 8, 2018, 10:51 PM)Cole_ Wrote: @ZooM, can you provide evidence of this "fact" you are claiming I am wrong about? As I am seeing multiple websites state the same thing on the website to the answer of the question "Does the President have immunity from prosecution?"; No.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/...prosecuted
https://www.quora.com/Does-a-sitting-Pre...rosecution
And a member of the administrative team.

That means you can’t indict and try a sitting president. He has to be removed first.” Quoted from your first link.
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May 9, 2018, 08:00 AM
“The US President needs to be found guilty of said crimes BEFORE he is impeached. At the time of his impeachment, he can then be prosecuted for those crimes.” In our gamemode’s words, basically find him guilty of a crime.
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May 9, 2018, 02:43 PM
(May 9, 2018, 08:00 AM)Cole_ Wrote: “The US President needs to be found guilty of said crimes BEFORE he is impeached. At the time of his impeachment, he can then be prosecuted for those crimes.” In our gamemode’s words, basically find him guilty of a crime.

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May 9, 2018, 04:21 PM
(May 9, 2018, 02:43 PM)ZooM Wrote:
(May 9, 2018, 08:00 AM)Cole_ Wrote: “The US President needs to be found guilty of said crimes BEFORE he is impeached. At the time of his impeachment, he can then be prosecuted for those crimes.” In our gamemode’s words, basically find him guilty of a crime.

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#29
May 11, 2018, 12:50 AM
(May 8, 2018, 10:58 PM)Stell90 Wrote: Zoom

Can you explain to me, why you were using 3rd party software to command your SSA when you were under fear RP.

@ZooM 

Please, make another unban request about the double accounting, as this is about your permanent ban regarding fear RP, 3rd party software use and your actions inside of the admin sit.


Could you please answer my previous question, which is quoted above.
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May 11, 2018, 02:15 PM
(May 8, 2018, 08:56 PM)Stell90 Wrote: Thank you, for posting an unban request Zoom. My following points will explain the reasoning behind your ban that I made yesterday. As well as a point at the end explaining why you have a permanent suspension


~0:20

The cop to your left has a gun out. Yes, it maybe on safety but as rule 2.1 informs you that you do not need your gun to be aimed at an officer for fear RP to be applied.


At ~0:33

You are breaking 3.9, as you are under fear RP yet telling your SSA to arrest the cop who is pointing a gun at you.


At 1:16

As I told you it was confirmed that Fear RP was still enabled as you didn't move straight away when this happened.
If you felt that your life was in such major danger you would of ran at that moment in time.


From 1:16-36

I can not tell what is going on as all your friends are talking in discord which is breaking 3.9 as they are under fear RP and are unable to use their radio in this scenario.


2:29

This is not prop push, as they are attempting to save Cole from the RV, the chair accidentally hit your RV. Don't see an issue here about that.



3:00

The SSA was posing a threat towards the police chief due to his aggressive behavior towards him.


3:29

Sours gave you an order to face the vehicle, I believe he said this a few seconds before hand as well. But, due to you and your friends talking I can not make this out.


3:56
Cherno is breaking fear RP and as such is hit by a baton.


At some point you mentioned how they had no reason to arrest you. But, due to you ramming vehicles and risking officers and the public's lives. I can see a valid reason for them doing so. You could also argue that you are corrupt as you are failing to respond to orders.


Thought the whole video which you have posted you have failed to follow fear RP several times all of you. And, I see no excuse for these actions that you have committed.

The ban was extended by @nightmare was because you had a last chance issued by @Nacreas. This is why you currently have a permanent ban.



Can you explain to me why you broke fear RP on multiple occasions during this clip?

~0:20

He had a gun pointed at me but didn't give me any orders. But when the other cop told me to jump out of the vehicle I did follow that order.

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]At ~0:33[/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]I didn't know I was under FearRP as I didn't see the cop infront of the car. But when I did, I jumped out of the vehicle.[/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]At 1:16[/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]This is what I didn't know. As I said, I knew that the moment someone shoots at you, FearRP no longer applies. But I didn't know that there was a specific timespan that FearRP didn't apply but that it came back later on. The reason I didn't know this was because it didn't say anything about that in the rules.[/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]From 1:16-36[/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]We were talking out of character. We were talking about if FearRP didn't apply anymore after you get shot. Nothing to do with our ingame characters.[/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]2:29[/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]Didn't see that. My bad.[/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]3:00[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]The SSA was handcuffed (not me), thus posing no threat. Doesn't matter if he was aggressive, he can no longer do anything.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]3:29[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]I didn't know what he said, but I managed to figure out that he was saying something about me moving to the vehicle. And so I did.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]3:56[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]This isn't me. But he just asked what car he should go to, which might be obvious.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]At some point you mentioned how they had no reason to arrest you. But, due to you ramming vehicles and risking officers and the public's lives. I can see a valid reason for them doing so. You could also argue that you are corrupt as you are failing to respond to orders.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]Something can be wrong with my vehicle. It doesn't mean that I have intended to ram vehicles. The situation wasn't handled very well by the police officers imo.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]
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