[Estel]

Reported Players: hungames (STEAM_0:1:60023568) (@Hungames)
Server: Rockford
Time: 2018-Mar-10 18:00
Summary: I would like to open the case again that happened on the 10th of this month with me and @Hungames and my agents, i found being guilty for what happened and got banned for 3 weeks for a reason that is not my fault or not even fair. Please i want another staff member to look into it i dont want Nightmare to look into it since he can not understand the situation that happened correctly and suspicion of being a corrupt staff member . So what happened is that @Hungames reported me and my other agents for a shootout when i came to the place that i was requested to go to by one of my other agents, to see one of agents is downed and cuffed by the police, we were FBI though and i was the director it means that we were with the government as well. When i arrived to the place i stepped out of my vehicle and sew my agent on the ground with his both hands cuffed and unconscious so i was angry as every director will be when he see his agent downed and cuffed by the police, well if u were in my shoes u would say why the heck did the chief make the pr himself or before that even call me to discuss what happened and thats what supposed to happen right? Well that was not the case here, since the police didn't contact me for anything and they never did. Even when they needed backup we were doing our best to have a better connection with the government though, and we even had a law especially for the FBI being from the government and that the FBI is a higher rank from the police because we have everyone's files of course. So when i went to the chief i told him lets a word about this please (first time) when he said get the *fuck* out of my face i repeated myself to say can i have a *fucking word* with you? he said get off and aimed the gun at me, when he did this i backed off and aimed back because he is already threatening my life and i had a gun on my back, actually 2 big guns and it was completely visible to anyone who see's me, anyway when we aimed at each other i did not shoot yet, but he shot me first and when my agents sew that they engaged because he was obviously not going to comply with us even if we had a law that says FBI is higher than police. After that we got killed and Hungames posted the same video that i will post it here on my clan site even when they were wrong and we did not even start the shootout i just wanted to talk to the chief (Sourlemon) to have some information's about what actually happened. I swear if they would've called me i will just demote the agent for that. Even though the agent was not wrong when he said "I dont listen to your orders, i only listen to my higher ups orders or the president" You can see everything in the video and when i was replying to the first PR that was made on us by Hungames after posting the video on our clan site Nightmare did not take me seriously, maybe because i had some other suspensions that i was not even doing it in purpose . I swear i did not break any rule in purpose, its just moments that i had when i break a rule accidentally and i try to fix the thing but it will not work out and i will get a suspension. Last but not least no one took us seriously because there was another clan called Federal bureau of investigation i believe, the thing is that i did not even realize that when i made my clan even, when i went to the other clan site i sew that the last post was on September 2017 and i though that its inactive anyway. So why should i delete my clan then, so i carried on, but people like Gamerpro and Sourlemon and Hungames and many others did not like the fact that we are a new department as i mentioned in a post of mine in our clan site (i role played it) But even though they were just rude to us all the time and especially when we do something right they will not say that the FBI did that, they will only look into having troubles with us, making us a total fail? When we wants just to role play as FBI. So basically the important thing from the whole thing is that some of the people including Hungames and others were too salty about us having a new clan and they just wanted to make problems with us. That was it i hope i get a fair decision now and i hope you figure what happened out. I got banned for 3 weeks for that though. My only request is that i do not want Nightmare to reply to this. Thank you very much for your time.
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Just look at the time of the posts.

[Bambo]

Uh for clarification is this a report on Hungames or is it a unban request?

[Estel]

A report on Hungames. If i want to be unbanned i would've posted on the Unban requests section.

[Doctor Internet]

Any chance of splitting the report up into paragraphs to make it a bit easier to read please?

[Estel]

sorry man but i actually explained everything to make it clear.

[Bambo]

Apologies as it seemed that you had a problem with the ban itself as you stated the most important part being Hungames and others being salty and posting the PR. Can you please state what rule breakage was done by Hungames? 

Also in the future I would suggest splitting it into paragraphs for it to be read easier.

Regarding Nightmare, as he issued the ban and investigated the case you want to bring up, he has every right to post on here as he is involved.

[Estel]

FailRp, Metagaming, PowerGaming

[Estel]

I will try my best to do that in the next post i do.

[Bambo]

Apologies but if you could go into detail regarding which actions were FailRP, which were metagaming and which were powergaming it would make investigating easier.

[SourLemon]

Involved as I was there at the time of the event

The only reason you posted this is because you are upset about being caught breaking rules. You pulled a gun on a cop while under fearrp and got shot, nothing else to it. Hunggames did nothing unreasonable and defended himself with lethal force from an armed suspect resisting arrest.

[Estel]

Well obviously he was not the one who was fail rp'ing it was sourlemon because he didn't contact the responsible/Director for the agents or even the FBI. Metagaming as i can hear that they were talking with each other threw a communication software.
Power gaming is that they did not even call the president they just wanted to shoot us down at any time because they were upset that we were higher than them at that time. i know that i made it a little confusing but what im saying here is that i understand the Hungames did his job as protecting the chief but i should've made a pr on sourlemon tbh because he didn't even want to talk to the director about what even happened. The thing that i was confused about is why the heck didnt sourlemon made the pr on us? why did Hungames do it?

[Estel]

Involved as I was there at the time of the event

The only reason you posted this is because you are upset about being caught breaking rules. You pulled a gun on a cop while under fearrp and got shot, nothing else to it. Hunggames did nothing unreasonable and defended himself with lethal force from an armed suspect resisting arrest.

I had a gun all the time i disagree with you.

[SourLemon]

Involved as I was there at the time of the event

The only reason you posted this is because you are upset about being caught breaking rules. You pulled a gun on a cop while under fearrp and got shot, nothing else to it. Hunggames did nothing unreasonable and defended himself with lethal force from an armed suspect resisting arrest.

I had a gun all the time i disagree with you.

You seem to be unable to grasp the concept that unless your firearm is in your hands, it does not affect you being under fearrp. You broke fearrp plain and simple, how many times do you need it repeated?

[Dutch]

Yeah i was involved aswell and TBH isnt it fail rp to cuff a FBI agent for giving a tottaly normale awnser : i only take orders from my higher ups and the president himself. u know u were just trying to annoy us by insulting us being jerks IC tho but u kinda were asking for a gun fight with pointing your guns at us for trying to have a normale talk like wtf.

[Hungames]

Well obviously he was not the one who was fail rp'ing it was sourlemon because he didn't contact the responsible/Director for the agents or even the FBI. Metagaming as i can hear that they were talking with each other threw a communication software.
Power gaming is that they did not even call the president they just wanted to shoot us down without us shooting. i know that i made it a little confusing but what im saying here is that i understand the Hungames did his job as protecting the chief but i should've made a pr on sourlemon tbh because he didn't even want to talk to the director about what even happened. The thing that i was confused about is why the heck didnt sourlemon made the pr on us? why did Hungames do it?

FailRP - You just admitted I didn't failRP. You claim it was sourlemon. Make a PR for him if you believe this. 

Metagaming - The rule is: 

3.9 - Do not use information obtained by out-of-character means, in-character (Metagaming). Exception - you may use Teamspeak/Discord/similar as a radio, but only if it would make sense in-character (do not use it to bypass injury, FearRP, NLR, etc.).

We were using teamspeak as a radio. It makes sense in character. 


Powergaming: 3.4 - Powergaming is not allowed. E.g do not write “/me pulls out a gun and shoots his opponent right in the head” when it hasn’t actually happened in the game. Instead of “/me kicks the man in the groin” use “/me attempts to kick the man in the groin” and let the other player decide the outcome; alternatively you can use /roll to decide the outcome. Other examples of powergaming – changing jobs just to buy something from the market for yourself, abusing the /demote command to get rid of a police officer holding you at gunpoint.


Nothing that happened was in violation of that rule. We aren't required to call the president or listen to you when we are in danger.


Also, why does it have to be sourlemon who made the PR? I had the footage and was involved, too.