[Barkles]

It's 40 fookin quid a month . Who has time to play games on their phone enough to warrant buying it anyway?

I pay half that for the same specs on my Nokia minus a 120hz screen (still 2k tho)

[TrumanBen]

Not a fan of the Razer phone. I would prefer Apple devices such as the iPhone.

yeah because you're a fanboy 

OT; I like it. If you're saying 'just get the iPhone X' remember that the iPhone's price is £999, and the Razer phone's price is £640.00

£640 is quite alot for a original £320 price of the Nextbit robin (Which is basically a plastic version of the Razer Phone with out the 120HZ 2k screen and the louder speakers)

The razer phone is like a brick yet it can't fit a headphone jack.

At least the iPhone 10 has a wayyy better build quality, better technical support, a better OLED panel and generally looks and feels better to hold.

Just because it has the same style of chassis as the Nextbit doesn't mean their similar. The RAM, CPU, GPU, Screen, speakers, frame material, cameras and battery are all different. It's just not true if you even compare it to the previous in anyway. They are 2 different (bad) phones that appeal to 2 completely different markets, and they'll both probably fail.

[Quest]

Not a fan of the Razer phone. I would prefer Apple devices such as the iPhone.

yeah because you're a fanboy 

OT; I like it. If you're saying 'just get the iPhone X' remember that the iPhone's price is £999, and the Razer phone's price is £640.00

£640 is quite alot for a original £320 price of the Nextbit robin (Which is basically a plastic version of the Razer Phone with out the 120HZ 2k screen and the louder speakers)

The razer phone is like a brick yet it can't fit a headphone jack.

At least the iPhone 10 has a wayyy better build quality, better technical support, a better OLED panel and generally looks and feels better to hold.

Just because it has the same style of chassis as the Nextbit doesn't mean their similar. The RAM, CPU, GPU, Screen, speakers, frame material, cameras and battery are all different. It's just not true if you even compare it to the previous in anyway. They are 2 different (bad) phones that appeal to 2 completely different markets, and they'll both probably fail.

Considering Apple is selling 20 million units of the iPhone X, I doubt it will fail.

Razer on the other hand is going to fail and I don’t particularly care about specs on a phone, I care if it functions, feels like a quality product and sounds great.

They can be compared because they are two flagship phones. Just because it’s a phone catered towards gaming doesn’t mean it has to be used by a “gamer”.

[Mr.Sir]

Not a fan of the Razer phone. I would prefer Apple devices such as the iPhone.

iPhone is the only device they offer.

[Blazing]

Not a fan of the Razer phone. I would prefer Apple devices such as the iPhone.

yeah because you're a fanboy 

OT; I like it. If you're saying 'just get the iPhone X' remember that the iPhone's price is £999, and the Razer phone's price is £640.00

£640 is quite alot for a original £320 price of the Nextbit robin (Which is basically a plastic version of the Razer Phone with out the 120HZ 2k screen and the louder speakers)

The razer phone is like a brick yet it can't fit a headphone jack.

At least the iPhone 10 has a wayyy better build quality, better technical support, a better OLED panel and generally looks and feels better to hold.

Just because it has the same style of chassis as the Nextbit doesn't mean their similar. The RAM, CPU, GPU, Screen, speakers, frame material, cameras and battery are all different. It's just not true if you even compare it to the previous in anyway. They are 2 different (bad) phones that appeal to 2 completely different markets, and they'll both probably fail.

Considering Apple is selling 20 million units of the iPhone X, I doubt it will fail.

Razer on the other hand is going to fail and I don’t particularly care about specs on a phone, I care if it functions, feels like a quality product and sounds great.

They can be compared because they are two flagship phones. Just because it’s a phone catered towards gaming doesn’t mean it has to be used by a “gamer”.

The iPhone X will be a great success; it's the first iPhone in a while which will really attract iPhone users to upgrade their older devices to something new as opposed to an iterative device.

I'm not too sure if you can judge the build quality and 'feel' of the product unless you've owned one yourself. From the reviews I've seen (which as an enthusiast, are many), it feels like a very premium device.

The Razer phone is a phone for gamers, not a gaming phone, as you said. It's probably going to appeal to people who have brand affinity with Razer's other products.

I'd argue heavily that it's not just a rebranded Nextbit Robin. The display is the first in the market and makes it very unique, whilst there is no bloatware to slow down the phone. This results in the phone feeling very smooth; probably on par with the Pixel, and better than the iPhones which have suffered from iOS 11's poor optimisation. Whilst I don't like that they omitted the headphone jack, this is probably one of the only phones which can justify it because the speakers are so loud, and it has been confirmed to have taken up a lot of space inside the chassis by enthusiasts who have checked out the internals.

I don't think it has any place in the flagship world though. The camera is simply too poor, and that is the main factor separating flagship phones with budget phones such as the Moto G5 Plus for many people. I think the top smartphones of the year are as follows:
1) Google Pixel 2 (XL)
2) Apple iPhone X
3) Apple iPhone 8 Plus
4) HTC U11+
5) Samsung Galaxy Note 8
6) OnePlus 5T

Of course, the order would depend on preference, but my list is based on what I'd advise for somebody who doesn't have any preferences in operating systems nor any brand affinity. For example, an audiophile might prefer the HTC U11+, somebody on a budget might prefer the OnePlus 5T and somebody who is very busy with work on the go might prefer the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.

[Blazing]

Not a fan of the Razer phone. I would prefer Apple devices such as the iPhone.

yeah because you're a fanboy 

OT; I like it. If you're saying 'just get the iPhone X' remember that the iPhone's price is £999, and the Razer phone's price is £640.00

The issue is that there's not much of a unique selling point for the Razer phone over flagship competitors, and the selling points aren't important for most people. In the price range, you have the:
- Google Pixel 2: Faster, better camera, frequent software updates, better looking display.
- HTC U11+: Higher quality audio (although not as loud), better camera, better microphone, better looking display, smaller bezels.
- OnePlus 5T: Faster, better camera, better looking display, lower price, more RAM.

[Bunny_]

I think about the OnePlus 5t when thinking about the latest Razor Phone.

[Soviethooves]

Not a fan of the Razer phone. I would prefer Apple devices such as the iPhone.

yeah because you're a fanboy 

OT; I like it. If you're saying 'just get the iPhone X' remember that the iPhone's price is £999, and the Razer phone's price is £640.00

I got an iPhone X with my upgrade plan for around $400ish. I forget how long the upgrade plan was, but it saved a bunch.

[Bunny_]

In Germany the iPhone X is about 969€, the last time i saw it at least.

I completely understand everyone preferring Apple, after all, they are simple to use, have a magnificent OS and an all together premium feel to them.

However, you can buy a computer for that money. It's just not worth that money in my opinion, especially when you can get phones up to two times stronger for half the money.

[Blazing]

In Germany the iPhone X is about 969€, the last time i saw it at least.

I completely understand everyone preferring Apple, after all, they are simple to use, have a magnificent OS and an all together premium feel to them.

However, you can buy a computer for that money. It's just not worth that money in my opinion, especially when you can get phones up to two times stronger for half the money.

British people get completely ripped off by the iPhone X relative to other countries; it costs £1000 in the UK, whereas it's $1000 in the US.

The iPhone X is a fantastic phone. I criticised it at first, saying I'd prefer the iPhone 8 Plus, but actually trying it in-store and seeing other people use it in person and in videos has changed my mind. In my opinion, as someone very well versed in smartphone technology, it's the second best smartphone after the Google Pixel 2 (XL), then followed by the HTC U11+ (6GB RAM version) and Samsung Galaxy Note 8.

To start with, devices like the OnePlus 5T which cost 'half the money' are very good, but nowhere near 'two times stronger'. Some of them like the OnePlus 5T may be slightly better than the iPhone X in opening apps and keeping them in memory, but actual performance in demanding applications like games are where the iPhone X shines.

You'll see the iPhone X maintaining a very steady high frame rate. Most other phones, even flagship phones, won't even hit these frame rates, and those which do such as the Google Pixel 2 (XL), OnePlus 5T and HTC U11(+) throttle over time due to heat and lack of processing prowess. You can say that these phones come close in performance, but they don't surpass the iPhone X, let alone beat it twice over in performance.

Outside of performance, you have the camera, which is the main difference between flagship phones and mid-range phones nowadays. Whilst the OnePlus 5T is catching up quickly, it's still a tier or two below flagship phones like the iPhone X, and two or three tiers below the Google Pixel 2 (XL), which has far and away the best smartphone camera. You also have convenience and peace of mind features such as water resistance and wireless charging, and intangibles such as guaranteed latest software updates over at least three years as provided by Google and Apple respectively.

You can say that you can buy a computer for that money, but a lot of people would find that a waste of money as well. People prefer to spend their money in different ways.

A lot of people like to go out to restaurants to eat frequently, as well as buying coffee from shops like Starbucks on a daily basis. These things are easily overlooked, and for a lot of people they end up being more expensive over a year than an expensive phone.

On the other hand, you have some other popular expensive hobbies which are seen as 'normal'. For example, a lot of people will buy clothes and shoes which easily surpass £1000 in a year, yet these fashion accessories won't be used nearly as much as a smartphone.

If you look at things logically, it's not ludicrous to invest heavily in something which you'll be using every day. Rather than saving money on a smartphone, it's often better to cut out on other expensive habits which are unnecessary such as buying a coffee every day. I follow the philosophy that it's worth it to invest in things which you'll get a lot of use out of.

[Bunny_]

In Germany the iPhone X is about 969€, the last time i saw it at least.

I completely understand everyone preferring Apple, after all, they are simple to use, have a magnificent OS and an all together premium feel to them.

However, you can buy a computer for that money. It's just not worth that money in my opinion, especially when you can get phones up to two times stronger for half the money.

Outside of performance, you have the camera, which is the main difference between flagship phones and mid-range phones nowadays. Whilst the OnePlus 5T is catching up quickly, it's still a tier or two below flagship phones like the iPhone X, and two or three tiers below the Google Pixel 2 (XL), which has far and away the best smartphone camera. You also have convenience and peace of mind features such as water resistance and wireless charging, and intangibles such as guaranteed latest software updates over at least three years as provided by Google and Apple respectively.

Im sorry, are you saying it only depends on the camera if a phone is a high or midrange phone?

[Blazing]

In Germany the iPhone X is about 969€, the last time i saw it at least.

I completely understand everyone preferring Apple, after all, they are simple to use, have a magnificent OS and an all together premium feel to them.

However, you can buy a computer for that money. It's just not worth that money in my opinion, especially when you can get phones up to two times stronger for half the money.

Outside of performance, you have the camera, which is the main difference between flagship phones and mid-range phones nowadays. Whilst the OnePlus 5T is catching up quickly, it's still a tier or two below flagship phones like the iPhone X, and two or three tiers below the Google Pixel 2 (XL), which has far and away the best smartphone camera. You also have convenience and peace of mind features such as water resistance and wireless charging, and intangibles such as guaranteed latest software updates over at least three years as provided by Google and Apple respectively.

Im sorry, are you saying it only depends on the camera if a phone is a high or midrange phone?

No, I'm saying that it is the most noticeable difference between flagship phones and mid-range phones, as mid-range phones like the OnePlus 5T are starting to release with high-end components such as the SoC (Snapdragon 835 in this case) and large batteries. There may be some similarities, but the camera is often what you pay extra for.