[Stomm]

Well.. the SWAT van is a straight Downgrade.
Slower lightning Pattern, no Spotlights, on the Back the orange lights are blinking(why, they are Driving lights and are not supposed to blink) Charger interceptor has 4 lightning options less, which is quite sad.. That's the only thing I do not like (and ofc that Nobels Engine did not got added.)

The charger had too many flash patterns. IIRC the options were Code 1, Code 2, Code 3, Stop, Emergency, Caution, and something else stupid. They were redundant and got in the way of practical operation



The majority of controllers I've seen have a 4 way switch, labelled [Off-1-2-3], with 1 being minimal emergency lights, 2 being most of the emergency lights, and 3 being all the fuckin' lights and sirens.

[Murdoch Murdoch]

Also noticed that the Hummer was advertised with emergency lights on the thing yet isn't on the list of supported vehicles. What's up with that?
A mistake in the graphics, I'm sure you'll understand, we're not all perfect.

And seems strange how you would add it to all these vehicles that see little too no use and yet have no support for the lambo which, although not this model, has seen use in *certain* well-off countries. If this was still early CityRP days I could see why this would be a problem because of overuse by power-mad kids but now all the 12 year olds have been stripped of their lambos thanks to generous offers by saint @"Nevy" so it might see some more appropriate use as an interceptor.

The primary issue is that every single one of these photon definitions needs to be done by hand. Even with @goigle, who is highly experienced in doing these, it still took him a week to get them done.

Between him and myself, we've had to do 72 definitions for this, each one averaging about 400 lines. The smallest is 200 lines, with the largest being 2000 lines. We took the list of vehicles, and went "yeah, no supercars, cut out this, this and this." You're always welcome to post a suggestion, or to create the definition yourself, which makes it more likely to have it added.

I believe there was another element to my post as well

Perhaps someone with a little more expertise in this field could answer that one?

[Soviethooves]

Would you care to clarify so it can be answered?

[Murdoch Murdoch]

>Panic Button

Dude why do we even bother with the FearRP rule anymore?

[Bambo]

Because we still don't have a system to carry suspects and so on. We have to rely on their cooperation to do so, and that usually doesn't happen. Until proper systems are in place, it'll be there.

I do wonder how the Panic Button will affect FearRP though. it is a silent alarm, so would the player be afraid if under gunpoint? The person with the gun should have to take the alarm into account as well. This pops a question in my head, if say, FearRP doesn't apply to the button, a player comes to the store, attempts to rob it, Police come, a shootout happens and all the player gets, is 500$ and that's if he is successful.

@Overlewd please halp

[Murdoch Murdoch]

Because we still don't have a system to carry suspects and so on.  We have to rely on their cooperation to do so, and that usually doesn't happen. Until proper systems are in place, it'll be there.

I do wonder how the Panic Button will affect FearRP though. it is a silent alarm, so would the player be afraid if under gunpoint? The person with the gun should have to take the alarm into account as well. This pops a question in my head, if say, FearRP doesn't apply to the button, a player comes to the store, attempts to rob it, Police come, a shootout happens and all the player gets, is 500$ and that's if he is successful.

@Overlewd please halp

Even if FearRP does apply, there's no way for the person with the gun to know if they broke it, in any other situation, unless the player has learned to PM and still hasn't followed the rules for some reason, you can see them making a request to government and you have time to book it after seeing they have broken the rules.

With the silent alarm, however, this is not the case, you can't tell if they've broken anything until you're shot dead by police.

Or, if FearRP doesn't apply, say goodbye to most of the surviving aspects of aggressive RP. Seems that one of the only safe forms of crime left is contrafarming in this case. If you're trying to turn this into base wars, that's the right way to go about it.

[Doctor Internet]

Or, if FearRP doesn't apply, say goodbye to most of the surviving aspects of aggressive RP. Seems that one of the only safe forms of crime left is contrafarming in this case. If you're trying to turn this into base wars, that's the right way to go about it.

Yes, because there's a panic button in your car.
Or while you're walking.
Or if you're doing a deal in some alley.
Or if you're raiding someone else.
Or you're fighting a dictator.
Or if you take someone hostage.
Or you're doing a quick in/out for a store.

There's plenty of aggressive RP around, you just can't sprint into a store guns blazing and expect to get ignored now.

[Cole]

Also noticed that the Hummer was advertised with emergency lights on the thing yet isn't on the list of supported vehicles. What's up with that?
A mistake in the graphics, I'm sure you'll understand, we're not all perfect.

And seems strange how you would add it to all these vehicles that see little too no use and yet have no support for the lambo which, although not this model, has seen use in *certain* well-off countries. If this was still early CityRP days I could see why this would be a problem because of overuse by power-mad kids but now all the 12 year olds have been stripped of their lambos thanks to generous offers by saint @"Nevy" so it might see some more appropriate use as an interceptor.

The primary issue is that every single one of these photon definitions needs to be done by hand. Even with @goigle, who is highly experienced in doing these, it still took him a week to get them done.

Between him and myself, we've had to do 72 definitions for this, each one averaging about 400 lines. The smallest is 200 lines, with the largest being 2000 lines. We took the list of vehicles, and went "yeah, no supercars, cut out this, this and this." You're always welcome to post a suggestion, or to create the definition yourself, which makes it more likely to have it added.

I believe there was another element to my post as well

Perhaps someone with a little more expertise in this field could answer that one?

It takes a lot of work and a lot of time to perfect each element, I've also had experience doing this and it's very intimidating going back and forth for hours on end on a car to get the lights in the exact location you need and want. I'm just saying, the amount of vehicles they have added definitions to is more than enough and to be honest I wouldn't have expected them to do so many.

[Murdoch Murdoch]

Or, if FearRP doesn't apply, say goodbye to most of the surviving aspects of aggressive RP. Seems that one of the only safe forms of crime left is contrafarming in this case. If you're trying to turn this into base wars, that's the right way to go about it.

Yes, because there's a panic button in your car.
Or while you're walking.
Or if you're doing a deal in some alley.
Or if you're raiding someone else.
Or you're fighting a dictator.
Or if you take someone hostage.
Or you're doing a quick in/out for a store.

There's plenty of aggressive RP around, you just can't sprint into a store guns blazing and expect to get ignored now.

But you don't go in guns blazing, do you?  Going by the rules if nothing else, when shots are fired FearRP is off anyway. But the fact is, it'd be dumb to mug a shop owner anyway. You'd demand protection money or something like that. That's an integral part of Corleone RP among other things.

The fact of aggressive RP is, if it's not fun or lucrative, why bother?

Of course, getting into a gunfight with the police is fun until you lose, which is most of the time due to their superior equipment. And then it's hardly lucrative.

Especially for new players, it's hard to aggressive roleplay without money, so if something doesn't make money, why bother? That just intensifies the problem of the majority of the playerbase contrafarming and not roleplaying.

As for the last thing, isn't that exactly what the button is for?

[Jen]

Of course this all has to be added on the day I go on holiday, oh well I guess I will just have to wait.

And I'm hoping that panic button is going well, have fun hopefully without being raided and being able to call the police silently.
If you want a loud one in the future then I can do so, just make a suggestion.

[Broccoli]

A very nice update, good job to everyone involved :D

[kian]

let Pres use red/blue?

[Wesley Lawrence]

let Pres use red/blue?

No. Recruit some Secret Service members and have them drive you around, your excellence.

[kian]

let Pres use red/blue?

No. Recruit some Secret Service members and have them drive you around, your excellence.

that means having to employ people.

[Soviethooves]

let Pres use red/blue?

No. Recruit some Secret Service members and have them drive you around, your excellence.

that means having to employ people.

Or just goto F1 and choose the Secret Service Agent job. Something people just do without any recruiting being done.