[Adam James]

Donald trump announced over twitter "After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow......Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming.....victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you." I personally think this is a good thing, the US Military is already terrible as it is, as I've seen it first hand living in Korea on a military base for a year, and having a father whose been a marine and is currently in the Army for over 19 years. We can't spend our budget on medical surgery or have "weaklings" in the armed forces, our Army is already filled with "feeling" sensitive people, come the fuck on, it's the military, not a god damn school.

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[Soviethooves]

I don't care what they are, aslong as they do their job.

[Cochise]

My view is that they shouldn't be on the front line but everything else is fine i guess

[Toxic]

I don't care what they are, aslong as they do their job.

Not the issue - the issue is that the military was paying medical costs for these people to have their surgeries and paying for the artificial hormones that they have to take in order to closer align with their assumed gender. They were effectively spending millions in taxpayer money to accomodate a small number of people's irrelevant identities rather than expecting those same people to put their inner man/woman/whatever aside for the good of the mission, which is what should be expected of everyone serving in our military.

[SourLemon]

How the policy worked, as was already stated by toxic. Person joins the military, speak with PA and say they wish to change gender, inform commander. They then go through the process, the entire time they are undergoing hormone treatment and sex change operations they are on a medical profile which prohibits them from doing anything military wise, they cannot deploy, that cannot do PT, they are basically committing all their time in the military into getting the sex change. By the time they are done, they are going to be done with their term in service, and can get out with a cost free sex change while serving no purpose in the military whatsoever.

[Soviethooves]

Yea, no. Fuck that.

[CMR99]

Tbh I think this is a good idea, if it's a ban on people going through that transition process. By all means - if you wish to transition, then your military status is dropped until done. Once you pay for it and handle all that shit yourself, well, sign back up for basic again cause you shouldn't expect to just get free treatment. You signed up for the military, not free healthcare.

If it's a ban on people who have already finished the process, well - that personally is a load of crap. Same issue as having women on the front lines - soldiers are soldiers, who cares what gender they are. Not every soldier is a gung-ho badass, but they're still soldiers. As long as they have proper training and equipment, whatever gender or race your soldiers are should be irrelevant unless it's medical related - anyone who's done primary school science knows men and women are different biologically lol.

Who gives a fuck what they are, as long as they know what they're doing, and they do it right. Ideally we'd all live in a world where militaries aren't needed, where people work towards a common goal, but that's not gonna happen any time soon given the state of the world - while it should always be a last resort, violence is sometimes a necessary evil, unfortunately.

No offense to anyone who supports trump, but in my eyes, this is one of the first things he's done that's seemingly smart. Then again - he didn't come up with it alone. But hey that's just my two cents.

[GRiiM]

If there is one thing that the US military is known for its their sensible use of their budget /s

It costs the US between 2-8 million annually (approximately 0.0001% of the overall budget)  for such surgeries according to studies (

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Trump is full of shit as usual.

[Humla]

If there is one thing that the US military is known for its their sensible use of their budget /s

It costs the US between 2-8 million annually (approximately 0.0001% of the overall budget)  for such surgeries according to studies (

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Trump is full of shit as usual.

Well, if I were an American I would rather see those 2-8 million go to something else than someones identity crisis/mental illness. They are using the system. Remember that most of the LBTQ-community are leftists who oppose armys and such so why the hell would they join the military?

The money is more well spent on Viagra than on these transgender cucks.

[GRiiM]

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Trump is full of shit as usual.

Well, if I were an American I would rather see those 2-8 million go to something else than someones identity crisis/mental illness. They are using the system. Remember that most of the LBTQ-community are leftists who oppose armys and such so why the hell would they join the military?

The money is more well spent on Viagra than on these transgender cucks.

This is a joke right? I don't think you actually give a damn about the costs, you just wanna stick it to the left side and restrict the rights of LGBT people.

[Adam James]

If there is one thing that the US military is known for its their sensible use of their budget /s

It costs the US between 2-8 million annually (approximately 0.0001% of the overall budget)  for such surgeries according to studies (

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Trump is full of shit as usual.

Well, if I were an American I would rather see those 2-8 million go to something else than someones identity crisis/mental illness. They are using the system. Remember that most of the LBTQ-community are leftists who oppose armys and such so why the hell would they join the military?

The money is more well spent on Viagra than on these transgender cucks.

This is a joke right? I don't think you actually give a damn about the costs, you just wanna stick it to the left side and restrict the rights of LGBT people.

It's not rescriting rights, we literally do not have the funds to support surgery, and the medication they require. As SourLemon said, " Person joins the military, speak with PA and say they wish to change gender, inform commander. They then go through the process, the entire time they are undergoing hormone treatment and sex change operations they are on a medical profile which prohibits them from doing anything military wise, they cannot deploy, that cannot do PT, they are basically committing all their time in the military into getting the sex change. By the time they are done, they are going to be done with their term in service, and can get out with a cost free sex change while serving no purpose in the military whatsoever."
Sure, we have a huge budget, but that doesn't mean anything when we're paying countries billions to have bases in them to protect them, to include the fact that we are still upgrading to new equipment and tech, there just simply isn't enough money to give to people whom want to change genders, and quite frankly, they're opposed to military, so why join for any reason other than to get a free surgery?
Finally, as Reebs pointed out on another thread, 
"It's only fair. 
Persons with severe allergies such as myself (yes, I have a severe peanut allergy) are permanently disqualified from Military Service and are ineligible for any draft. 
Transgender persons are barred for the same reason I am, the Military simply does not have the capacity to have transgenders serve. If one were to require immediate medical attention for something regarding their transgender status, it would be impossible to provide the needed treatment to them in the field. The same goes for Allergies, such as mine, that require the injection of epinephrine immediately after ingestion. It would simply be more hassle than it's worth." This is NOT an attack on the LGBTQ cult or whatever you'd llike to call it, it's just simply we cannot afford the cost of the pills and the surgery when we could be putting it forward to something more important, like new tech, or better equipment for those who actually go out and deploy.

Oh, I'd also like to point out that the pentigon and the president tried to add a policy disallowing transgenders from using the military to pay for their surgery and pills, but the house blocked it, thus, this was the only way to go thanks to the dems and libs in Congress.

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Having transgenders representing the US military is not something we want, either, we could be seen as weak to foreign countries that are strict on transgender and gay rights.

[Decay]

Estimated healthcare cost for the trans people in the army is 2.4M - 8.4M USD. which is basically fucking nothing.

[SourLemon]

Estimated healthcare cost for the trans people in the army is 2.4M - 8.4M USD. which is basically fucking nothing.

Why don't you pay for it then rich boy

[GRiiM]

Estimated healthcare cost for the trans people in the army is 2.4M - 8.4M USD. which is basically fucking nothing.

Why don't you pay for it then rich boy ;)

Don't think he has the taxes of one of the world's largest countries available to him.

[Decay]

Estimated healthcare cost for the trans people in the army is 2.4M - 8.4M USD. which is basically fucking nothing.

Why don't you pay for it then rich boy

If i recived the same funds as the army does, id gladly pay it lol, the army is spitting out 6.2B in healthcare cost for active duty members and the pentagon spits out 49.3B in healthcare costs to the families, veterans etc 8.4M is nothing.