[Fly]

I would rather die at 50 after living an action packed life than at 90 living a boring life.

Yeah man! Let's do 1 kg of 5-AcO-DMT when the world ends!

You only live once.

Better trip the world before it trips you.

Preach

Dude, i'm gonna go and drink some of my psilocybin extract right now and play the piano. I wonder how that feels.

[Toxic]

Two cents: The less you do, the longer you'll live.

I disagree with that. Even if the psychedelics decrease your lifespan, it's probably by 30 seconds for every trip. And all the added toxins and whatnot you eat in your daily diet probably outbalances the psychedelic substances you'll do in a lifetime anyway.

Also, i'd rather experience as much as possible in my life.

It's not as much about the drugs as it is about the stupid choices people make under the influence of drugs. Generally getting behind the wheel and getting into a MVA. So much for experiencing as much as possible in life, as short-lived as it turned out to be.

I would rather die at 50 after living an action packed life than at 90 living a boring life.

Far-fetched to assume anyone who's been able to live to 90 can't have done exciting and incredible things in their life. Oh well, laissez-faire.

[Fly]

Two cents: The less you do, the longer you'll live.

I disagree with that. Even if the psychedelics decrease your lifespan, it's probably by 30 seconds for every trip. And all the added toxins and whatnot you eat in your daily diet probably outbalances the psychedelic substances you'll do in a lifetime anyway.

Also, i'd rather experience as much as possible in my life.

It's not as much about the drugs as it is about the stupid choices people make under the influence of drugs. Generally getting behind the wheel and getting into a MVA. So much for experiencing as much as possible in life, as short-lived as it turned out to be.

I would rather die at 50 after living an action packed life than at 90 living a boring life.

Far-fetched to assume anyon who's been able to live to 90 can't have done exciting and incredible things in their life. Oh well, laissez-faire.

I highly doubt that you could live to 90, if this is you though:

[Mr.Sir]

I disagree with that. Even if the psychedelics decrease your lifespan, it's probably by 30 seconds for every trip. And all the added toxins and whatnot you eat in your daily diet probably outbalances the psychedelic substances you'll do in a lifetime anyway.

Also, i'd rather experience as much as possible in my life.

It's not as much about the drugs as it is about the stupid choices people make under the influence of drugs. Generally getting behind the wheel and getting into a MVA. So much for experiencing as much as possible in life, as short-lived as it turned out to be.

I would rather die at 50 after living an action packed life than at 90 living a boring life.

Far-fetched to assume anyon who's been able to live to 90 can't have done exciting and incredible things in their life. Oh well, laissez-faire.

I highly doubt that you could live to 90, if this is you though:

Holly makes me want to kill humanity on this planet.

[Fly]

I hope all of you live to 90.

[Toxic]

I disagree with that. Even if the psychedelics decrease your lifespan, it's probably by 30 seconds for every trip. And all the added toxins and whatnot you eat in your daily diet probably outbalances the psychedelic substances you'll do in a lifetime anyway.

Also, i'd rather experience as much as possible in my life.

It's not as much about the drugs as it is about the stupid choices people make under the influence of drugs. Generally getting behind the wheel and getting into a MVA. So much for experiencing as much as possible in life, as short-lived as it turned out to be.

I would rather die at 50 after living an action packed life than at 90 living a boring life.

Far-fetched to assume anyon who's been able to live to 90 can't have done exciting and incredible things in their life. Oh well, laissez-faire.

I highly doubt that you could live to 90, if this is you though:
- cut of the dull meme - 
Serious Discussions

I don't see the relevance in your post. And if you'd care to read over my post again, I said 'anyone' who lives to 90. It wasn't exclusive.

[Fly]

It's not as much about the drugs as it is about the stupid choices people make under the influence of drugs. Generally getting behind the wheel and getting into a MVA. So much for experiencing as much as possible in life, as short-lived as it turned out to be.

I would rather die at 50 after living an action packed life than at 90 living a boring life.

Far-fetched to assume anyon who's been able to live to 90 can't have done exciting and incredible things in their life. Oh well, laissez-faire.

I highly doubt that you could live to 90, if this is you though:
- cut of the dull meme - 
Serious Discussions

I don't see the relevance in your post. And if you'd care to read over my post again, I said 'anyone' who lives to 90. It wasn't exclusive.

Oh ****, i forgot we are in Serious. Could you possibly move this thread, thanks :) ?

[Vauld]

Throwing in a sort of upper-level conversation: I think that drugs do have potential to grant access to different emotions or perceptions that may not be appropriate for the time in which you're experiencing them (trippin' balls). While I do understand that this may be appealing to some people, I don't like the fact it's the chemicals in the drugs creating these perceptions, not the chemicals in your brain. This leads to the out of body experiences, the new perspective on life, or seeing something "greater". This sound interesting and I would love to experience these things in a genuine way, however I can't get over the fact that everything you see while tripping is simply artificial.

False epiphanies is the best example I can think of to why I won't use anything beyond weed.

I knew a guy who wrote out an entire equation that solved some extremely complicated problem. He thought he had finally solved the worlds greatest math problem only to realize upon sobering up that it's all a bunch of bullshit. Fuck, I've been high enough to think I was solving the worlds problems, being genuinely 100% convinced. But only discovered that it was simply incorrect signals being sent to my brain cause I was high asf.

It's just that sort of perception changing - and then coming back to reality that scares me. It fucks people up in the head, experiencing a disproportionate amount of any one chemical in the brain can have long-term psychological impacts. I like my reality, and I'm comfortable within it. Maybe when I'm 90 I'll pop some LSD, but other than that it ain't worth it imo.

Going even deeper - If a person climbs to the top of mount Everest and gets an incredible high, naturally caused. vs someone who just took some LSD and experienced the same thing. What's the difference chemically? Probably not much, but the fact that the LSD is what caused the high, not a genuine experience - makes it different. That's what I fundamentally don't like.

[Fly]

Throwing in a sort of upper-level conversation: I think that drugs do have potential to grant access to different emotions or perceptions that may not be appropriate for the time in which you're experiencing them (trippin' balls). While I do understand that this may be appealing to some people, I don't like the fact it's the chemicals in the drugs creating these perceptions, not the chemicals in your brain. This leads to the out of body experiences, the new perspective on life, or seeing something "greater". This sound interesting and I would love to experience these things in a genuine way, however I can't get over the fact that everything you see while tripping is simply artificial.

False epiphanies is the best example I can think of to why I won't use anything beyond weed.

I knew a guy who wrote out an entire equation that solved some extremely complicated problem. He thought he had finally solved the worlds greatest math problem only to realize upon sobering up that it's all a bunch of bullshit. Fuck, I've been high enough to think I was solving the worlds problems, being genuinely 100% convinced. But only discovered that it was simply incorrect signals being sent to my brain cause I was high asf.

It's just that sort of perception changing - and then coming back to reality that scares me. It fucks people up in the head, experiencing a disproportionate amount of any one chemical in the brain can have long-term psychological impacts. I like my reality, and I'm comfortable within it. Maybe when I'm 90 I'll pop some LSD, but other than that it ain't worth it imo.

My second time i smoked cannabis (in a bong) i drank a lot of alcohol and i ended up trying to explain to my friend that China were idiots reasoned they are "12 hours into the future" and should have warned about 9/11. And i was certain that everything people typed on the internet was true. Man, i'd be happy about getting 3 X's on a chromosome test at that point.

[Obay]

Have I done illegal drugs? Nah
Will I ever? Pff, might try some weed on my death bed.

My opinion?
Non really. People can do what they want, so long as they don't affect anyone else as a result from it.

[Vauld]

Yea that's what I'm talking about lol. Even just weed fucks with your perception of reality, makes me nervous.

[Fly]

Have I done illegal drugs? Nah
Will I ever? Pff, might try some weed on my death bed.

My opinion?
Non really. People can do what they want, so long as they don't affect anyone else as a result from it.

If only the government had this kind of common sense. (Pssst, Trumpsie, ever heard of "taxing drugs"?)

[Soviethooves]

I'd like to see drugs and narcotics with more disadvantages than advantages to the body stay outlawed.

If properly regulate, I would like to see less harmful substances stay legal for recreational if not already. Not that I drink or smoke, but just so people can stop talking about weed culture. Shit makes me cringe.

[Fly]

I'd like to see drugs and narcotics with more disadvantages than advantages to the body stay outlawed.

If properly regulate, I would like to see less harmful substances stay legal for recreational if not already. Not that I drink or smoke, but just so people can stop talking about weed culture. Shit makes me cringe.

Back in 2008 (i believe?), someone made a documentary about Salvia Divinorum in Denmark. The government realised that "oh no drug = danger". 

Alright, Salvia is pretty intense, but what about Kratom? This herb is extremely helpful if you are ill or have restless leg syndrome (i've used it a few times, and it works like a charm). When the gov heard it had slight psychoactive effects they banned it. They banned the possession of a harmful herb because it could give you slight euphoria, and there's pretty much only 1-2 stems of the species that own these properties.

I'd be happy if we could just put a big ban on hard drugs and make sure every single user got treatment. Removing the pressure on the safer drugs would not only make them safer, but the gov could earn money on it, and then use this for the provided therapies.

[Obay]

 
Yeah cheers, got it the first time