[GokuVII]

Your Name: Goku

Issued by: [L²] Noble

Blacklist ID: 68099

Server: V33X

Why should you be unblacklisted?: I find it unjustifiable to blacklist me without knowing the situation in its entirety. I've been tranquilized by a player called 'Tactical Goat' and I was an armed civilian, I've waited too long to cease the moment of killing him to take revenge as I am defending myself otherwise he would've kept tranquilizing me and held me hostage for no apparent reason.

Evidence: Unfortunately there is no evidence to provide, unless Mr. Noble provides it, he will clearly understand the situation. Other than that, my kill was fully valid even if my job name was Armed Civilian.

[Limelight Gaming]

The staff-members have received your unblacklist-request, Ousmn.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.

[GokuVII]

Additionally, just to justify my statement here, he blacklisted me for killing a player in front of 2 officers and not by 'RDM reason', which leads that my kill was valid and not by listening to other players who stated that I RDMed that guy and you blacklist me for 'RDM' reason.

Now where is that rule which states that I cannot kill someone publicly? By god damn defending myself and not highlighting that he tranquilized me for no reason and he is the one who gets away with it and i get the punishment, this is ridiculous.

On a side note: I request for higher positions and admins who have common sense to deal with this unblacklist request, I do not want him to deal with it except for justifying and explaining the situation.

[Dan]

I was there during the whole situation and can confirm he was tranqed, and validly got revenge for that action

[Soviethooves]

So IRL, when a suspect who is no longer a threat is being talked to by two armed officers, I should go up into their conversation as an "Armed Civilian" and revenge kill him? Doesn't it sound more logical to tell the police?

[Noble]

First I'd like to point out that I was the banning administrator in this case thus it is my responsibility to handle this un-blacklist request, not other staff. Insults will not get you anywhere in the courthouse.

After reports of the tranqing came through OOC I came to the main street to see if I could spot who was tranqing. An SS claimed to have found the guy and I had begun to look through logs to confirm it. At this time you were tranqed on the ground and when you woke up you made your way to the group to report him to the officers. I decided to let the officers handle the situation IC at this point since no one was seriously damaged. They then cuffed him, searched him, and decided to let him go. At this point you decided to draw your weapon in the crowd and kill Tactical Goat, with 2 officers standing there with weapons out.

'Armed Citizens' do not go about town killing anyone they seek revenge on nor was your life in any danger since Tactical was not armed. Simply because you did not like how the officers handled the situation does not give you the green light to do as you please. Had this happened while he was attempting to tranq you then a self defense argument could be made. You were blacklisted because you had no justifiable reason to kill the player other than he tranqed you. You do not know his intentions and at the time of killing him he posed no threat to you.

@Dan I'd like to know why you arrested Goku (Ousmn) for .0000000001 minutes?

[Dan]

It's an arrest time just like 1,2,5,10,15, is it not? I don't see why this should be discussed in Ousy's unblacklist request

[Noble]

It's an arrest time just like 1,2,5,10,15, is it not? I don't see why this should be discussed in Ousy's unblacklist request

As far as I'm concerned it's not an intended use of the function and appears that you used it to prevent Ousmn from serving a jail sentence for the killing. Refrain from using values under 1 until I get a confirmation from another dev.

[Dan]

It's an arrest time just like 1,2,5,10,15, is it not? I don't see why this should be discussed in Ousy's unblacklist request

As far as I'm concerned it's not an intended use of the function and appears that you used it to prevent Ousmn from serving a jail sentence for the killing. Refrain from using values under 1 until I get a confirmation from another dev.

Will do, but I did not just use it on Ousy. I've done it before and no one's said anything but I'm glad I'm hearing about this now

[mobiledove]

I was the SS @Noble mentions in his reply. I can confirm everything noble has said in Reply #6.

[GokuVII]

First I'd like to point out that I was the banning administrator in this case thus it is my responsibility to handle this un-blacklist request, not other staff. Insults will not get you anywhere in the courthouse.

After reports of the tranqing came through OOC I came to the main street to see if I could spot who was tranqing. An SS claimed to have found the guy and I had begun to look through logs to confirm it. At this time you were tranqed on the ground and when you woke up you made your way to the group to report him to the officers. I decided to let the officers handle the situation IC at this point since no one was seriously damaged. They then cuffed him, searched him, and decided to let him go. At this point you decided to draw your weapon in the crowd and kill Tactical Goat, with 2 officers standing there with weapons out.

'Armed Citizens' do not go about town killing anyone they seek revenge on nor was your life in any danger since Tactical was not armed. Simply because you did not like how the officers handled the situation does not give you the green light to do as you please. Had this happened while he was attempting to tranq you then a self defense argument could be made. You were blacklisted because you had no justifiable reason to kill the player other than he tranqed you. You do not know his intentions and at the time of killing him he posed no threat to you.

@Dan I'd like to know why you arrested Goku (Ousmn) for .0000000001 minutes?

I still have a valid reason to kill that minge, whether it was in front of 2 officers or privately. He posed no threat to me? He already did, what if the officers went away? He would've done it again who knows, I can't let him tranquilize me again I had to protect myself and kill him from his mingery.

[GokuVII]

So IRL, when a suspect who is no longer a threat is being talked to by two armed officers, I should go up into their conversation as an "Armed Civilian" and revenge kill him? Doesn't it sound more logical to tell the police?

After he was being talked, they let him go since officers didn't have conclusive evidence on 'tactical goat', so I had to take actions because he was getting away with it.

[Soviethooves]

So, like I said IRL, an armed civilian will walk between two armed police officers, push them aside, and then proceed to gun down the man with no weapon? I don't think that's how that works. Wouldn't have it made much more sense if you talked to the police and informed them that this man recently shot you (do something like /me shows dart wound on left arm)?

[mobiledove]

I believe ous did try to tell the police but the officer couldn't hear him as he was breaking up a fistfight

[Soviethooves]

I don't believe that gives him the excuse to shoot an unarmed suspect near police.