[Kurdayeti]

Honestly, just stop. You're clearly here out of blatant rage for what happened, rather than trying to call people out and make them look like an idiot. If you don't like people responding to your comments, you too can leave the discussion.

Criticism goes both ways, whether you like it or not.

I will stay in the discussion as it's my discussion, you can stay too. Explain how this is related to Discord.

[Kurdayeti]

Overall people need to stop complaining about IC actions in the OOC.

Since when is bodyslamming IC and not OOC?

Since always?

Why would bodyslamming a player be OOC? Its an IC action and can be done as such in mulitple situations.

Yes a player just KOing another and slamming them to death isnt allowed under the killright policies, but if you piss off the mob, and they have a killright on you, they absolutely can curbstomp your head or throw you off a cliff.

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- Rule violation
- No apology to the user
- User's first experience

[Kurdayeti]

Reviewed and concluded.

So the main issues in this case were:

1. The tazing where player Grapefruit was tazed without posing as a direct threat.
2. The accidental killing of Grapefruit while ragdolled
3. The staff member in question failing to clean up the accident by teleporting back the player and apologizing.


1. It seems to have been In-Character. I personally find the tazing to be excessive but not abuse-worthy as a staff member, more as an abusive action as a Police Officer if anything. I would personally have given more clear orders and detained you if you were a problem. I don't view really view this as an administrative error, however.
2. The accused staff member should have shown more care when carrying Grapefruit to relocate him. 
3. The accused staff member should have realized that he should have fixed this issue by bringing back the player and apologizing for the accident and inconvenience. The staff member in question should have shown more care and will to fix the issue that arose. 

The accused staff-member has answered the questions and points in a way I find to be satisfactory and I believe he has explained and apologized for his behaviour in this case. Clearly, this shouldn't have happened. I believe that Internet has realized how he should have treated the situation, and I'm confident he'll show more care in the future. 

The concernings points, in this case, have been raised, discussed and addressed. 
I've spoken to the accused staff member about this situation.

It's unfortunate that this was how your first time on Limelight was, and I hope you'll have a better time next time you play on our servers if you choose to do so. We apologize for the inconvenience. 

Reviewed and concluded. 
Thank you for your report, and for bringing it to our attention. Complaints like this help us improve. Hopefully, we'll do better. 

- @Enzyme

[pufitee]

Good afternoon. My apologies for the short reply before, I was having a shit.

You know what? Nobody cares about you having a shit. Good afternoon, by the way! 

You always have the option to make an appeal. From what I recall, you were repeatedly spoken to prior to the situation too. A staff report is not like an ingame violation. It's like a player report. You have to get information from both sides

Keep yourself to the subject, this discussion is about something else. 

An administrator accidently breaking a rule due a system which doesn't work well, who apologised and has taken more care to ensure such a situation doesn't happen again in the future.

A system that doesn't work well? Fix it, Doc. You're a developer.

Doesn't look like an accident: 

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Again, a key part is learning how to improve. In the future, I know that if this situation happens again, which I hope it does not, I should apologise there and teleport them back

This was his first experience and you didn't even bother apologizing. This is because you don't care about the players in LimeLight. 

Mistakes were made. However, if this was to be brought as a report today, it would be denied. It would be in violation of the rules. I'm sure you would want to follow the rules, aye?

I also made a mistake in the ban @Welker‍ issued to me by shooting at a car that I was allowed to but accidentally shot at another car that drove next to the car I was shooting at. I was banned for RDM and general probation was issued. Really? 

Yeah. Kills are generally IC, unless they occur for poor RP reasons. Accidental kills, such as CDM or this case are generally left IC, so long as an effort is made. For CDM, that involves calling a medic. Since in the case, they died, there wasn't much that could be done.

Bodyslam is not IC, it's a clear violation. I'd even tie it like prop killing. Is it an accident if an administrator makes it but not when a member makes it? 

Because it's a thread which came minutes after you ragequit the discord, after Nightmare told you to stop breaking the rules. It's not a discussion, it's you trying to vent your anger (which for some reason is directed at me). Chill out.

I'm chilled and this thread is not associated with Discord at all. How can people connect this? 

There has only been one instance of that, which was a mistake and I apologised for. I don't bodyslam people "freely", so I would ask you to retract that

Sure, you bodyslam and apologize then fine. Someone else do it, ban or permanent warning. 

You're only making a fool out of yourself. Stop.

You're annoyed, not me. Look at your response and by the way; how do you connect this with Discord? You're making a fool of yourself by saying that you just had to shit and therefore you didn't have time to respond quickly. None wants to know what you do in the toilet, at all.

[Kurdayeti]

I'd like to add that I don't tolerate anyone to edit my discussions without any reason and this also applies to @Doctor Internet‍ ‍for changing the title of this discussion without any reason. Please behave maturely and properly as well as respecting criticism and discussions that you don't like. I want this to be a mature and polite discussion. If someone doesn't like this discussion, they can move on.

I still stand by my statement I did above and recommend everyone to take it into consideration.

[Enzyme]

What is the purpose and goal of this thread?

[Doctor Internet]

Mistakes were made. However, if this was to be brought as a report today, it would be denied. It would be in violation of the rules. I'm sure you would want to follow the rules, aye?

I also made a mistake in the ban @Welker‍ issued to me by shooting at a car that I was allowed to but accidentally shot at another car that drove next to the car I was shooting at. I was banned for RDM and general probation was issued. Really? 

You want to know why that is?

Your bans list


My bans list


Your blacklists


My blacklists


Your warnings


My warnings
none.

That's why your treated much harsher.

[Kurdayeti]

What is the purpose and goal of this thread?

It's very simple, I want to discuss and see what others think would happen if this user was in fact not an administrator. This is a simple thread which encourages people to discuss topics in the community and which doesn't violate any rules at all. If someone does not like this thread, they are free to leave. 

Is there something wrong to ask for others opinions and open up discussions internally in the community? If so, how and why?

[ZooM]

If I get perma-banned parking a Ferrari as the Police Sergeant.

This would get me 10 perma-bans.

[Kurdayeti]

Mistakes were made. However, if this was to be brought as a report today, it would be denied. It would be in violation of the rules. I'm sure you would want to follow the rules, aye?

I also made a mistake in the ban @Welker‍ issued to me by shooting at a car that I was allowed to but accidentally shot at another car that drove next to the car I was shooting at. I was banned for RDM and general probation was issued. Really? 

You want to know why that is?

Your bans list


My bans list


Your blacklists


My blacklists


Your warnings


My warnings
none.

That's why your treated much harsher.

I know it all, no need to try to teach me about my past. Keep yourself to the subject, also, I apologized more than you but you guys don't care as long as you don't take any benefit from me. Like I said, keep yourself to this thread's subject and in accordance to the forum rules. Thanks.

[Tom*]

What is the purpose and goal of this thread?

It's very simple, I want to discuss and see what others think would happen if this user was in fact not an administrator. This is a simple thread which encourages people to discuss topics in the community and which doesn't violate any rules at all. If someone does not like this thread, they are free to leave. 

Is there something wrong to ask for others opinions and open up discussions internally in the community? If so, how and why?

From what I saw in the PR it was all IC until he accidentally body slammed someone, No Big Deal. We can all see that you have just started this to start arguments and get attention

[BlackDog]

Since when is bodyslamming IC and not OOC?

Since always?

Why would bodyslamming a player be OOC? Its an IC action and can be done as such in mulitple situations.

Yes a player just KOing another and slamming them to death isnt allowed under the killright policies, but if you piss off the mob, and they have a killright on you, they absolutely can curbstomp your head or throw you off a cliff.

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- Rule violation
- No apology to the user
- User's first experience

Please cite the rule that the following would violate: Killing someone by throwing them off a cliff or mashing them in some way, while exercising a valid, confirmed kill-right.

An apology is not required

Its not a players or even member of staffs responsibility to make sure all players first experience is a pleasant one.
Stuff just happens and they need to accept that not everything will go their way.

[Kurdayeti]

What is the purpose and goal of this thread?

It's very simple, I want to discuss and see what others think would happen if this user was in fact not an administrator. This is a simple thread which encourages people to discuss topics in the community and which doesn't violate any rules at all. If someone does not like this thread, they are free to leave. 

Is there something wrong to ask for others opinions and open up discussions internally in the community? If so, how and why?

From what I saw in the PR it was all IC until he accidentally body slammed someone, No Big Deal. We can all see that you have just started this to start arguments and get attention

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- Definitely not an accident, look at the video as it shows clear intent.
- He did not apologize for IC even though it's the user's first time, he only started caring and apologizing when he was reported which put him in a bad spot.

[Kurdayeti]

If I get perma-banned parking a Ferrari as the Police Sergeant.

This would get me 10 perma-bans.

+Support

100% 

Looks like being staff really helps, so much for that. --'

[Tom*]

If I get perma-banned parking a Ferrari as the Police Sergeant.

This would get me 10 perma-bans.

+Support

100% 

Looks like being staff really helps, so much for that. --'

If you guys are so Salty Towards the community why are you here, your welcome to leave...