[Ghost]

I was about to demote you (and we were clearly in a meeting position) but the prop killer killed nearly everyone in the lobby so you changed to VP/Pres as I lost my position as Pres

Not true at all. I was not in a meeting as John called me there as i was his personal guard, you never called me there so how was i in a meeting? Not my fault you got propkilled.

I never said you were in a meeting with John, I was the President and I called the VP and you followed them into the lobby. I had an informal meeting with John which ended up being about how you shot a downed body on the ground and you were about to be demoted before most of us got the first hit from the prop pusher. Never said it was your fault about being prop killed either, I’m just saying you were meant to be demoted.

But what you're currently saying is completely irrelevant to the case at hand. You're saying you were going to demote me, however you did not so i haven't broken any rules. All you're doing is writing useless shit for an admin to read.

[H4MZ4]

Not true at all. I was not in a meeting as John called me there as i was his personal guard, you never called me there so how was i in a meeting? Not my fault you got propkilled.

I never said you were in a meeting with John, I was the President and I called the VP and you followed them into the lobby. I had an informal meeting with John which ended up being about how you shot a downed body on the ground and you were about to be demoted before most of us got the first hit from the prop pusher. Never said it was your fault about being prop killed either, I’m just saying you were meant to be demoted.

But what you're currently saying is completely irrelevant to the case at hand. You're saying you were going to demote me, however you did not so i haven't broken any rules. All you're doing is writing useless shit for an admin to read.

I know you’re an ex FL admin that’s is known for minging but there’s no need to be aggressive

I’m making the admin understands the situation, as you’re blatantly saying that was is on the OP is false, which isn’t true.

Pretty sure it can be interpreted from the chat as we both were using text iirc anyway... weird enough that the prop stuff happened just as I was typing the demotion

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I noticed we were on the vid at 6min, I had demoted VP, next was him as SSA, but he already changed to VP. Though I didn’t clearly state that i was demoting him, I was planning to anyway. Thought it was worth mentioning anyway.

[Ghost]

I never said you were in a meeting with John, I was the President and I called the VP and you followed them into the lobby. I had an informal meeting with John which ended up being about how you shot a downed body on the ground and you were about to be demoted before most of us got the first hit from the prop pusher. Never said it was your fault about being prop killed either, I’m just saying you were meant to be demoted.

But what you're currently saying is completely irrelevant to the case at hand. You're saying you were going to demote me, however you did not so i haven't broken any rules. All you're doing is writing useless shit for an admin to read.

I know you’re an ex FL admin that’s is known for minging but there’s no need to be aggressive

I dont know how i'm "known for minging" When i've only joined the server like 4 times in the past 2 years, but sure Mr. Propkiller, i'm the minge. I also don't see how i'm being aggressive, you're explaining something multiple times that has no rulebreakage so i have no idea why your constantly bringing it up.


I’m making the admin understands the situation, as you’re blatantly saying that was is on the OP is false, which isn’t true.

Yes, i am saying it's false because you said this:

I was about to demote you (and we were clearly in a meeting position)

 
You say this, however you never called me there, never spoke to me personally, nor did you make it clear the meeting was about me. I also recall in the video Auston say somthing along the lines of "The other secret service agent" so that leads to me believe that i had done nothing wrong. Telling porkies pies to the admin won't help your case.

Pretty sure it can be interpreted from the chat as we both were using text iirc anyway... weird enough that the prop stuff happened just as I was typing the demotion

Not a clue what the first sentence means, so sure.

[John Jong]

no clue what i did wrong tbh since you dealt with me robbin a car as a fireman ICly by arresting me.

[H4MZ4]

I dont know how i'm "known for minging" When i've only joined the server like 4 times in the past 2 years, but sure Mr. Propkiller, i'm the minge. I also don't see how i'm being aggressive, you're explaining something multiple times that has no rulebreakage so i have no idea why your constantly bringing it up.

Put your SteamID into google and see 2 examples of your behaviour. If someone pulled out to Global OOC chat for that session, we’d see how many people called you out for you’re minge behaviour.

Yes, i am saying it's false because you said this:

I was about to demote you (and we were clearly in a meeting position)

 
You say this, however you never called me there, never spoke to me personally, nor did you make it clear the meeting was about me. I also recall in the video Auston say somthing along the lines of "The other secret service agent" so that leads to me believe that i had done nothing wrong. Telling porkies pies to the admin won't help your case.

I don’t have to call you there for it to be classed as a meeting, not sure why you’re acting like a child about it. Just watch the provided evidence at 6:00 and you bring yourself into the meeting (REGARDNG A SSA EXECUTING A MAN ON THE FLOOR). Where did he say “the other SSA” I don’t see that anywhere in the video. But now that I’m re-watching it, you changed jobs to avoid RP as it was clearly regarding a secret service issue but you decide to change jobs rather than allow me to continue.

Not sure what you’re gonna get out of arguing about this anyway...

[Ghost]

Very hypocrital of you calling me a minge: 

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Good to know you take a deep interest in my steam account though

Look at 6:15 in the video, you are talking about a dead Agent, so how was i supposed to know you are talking about me (Keeping in mind this incident you are talking about took place around 5-10 minutes prior to this situation) when i walk in mid-way through a conversation? Next time i'll make sure to bring my telekinesis powers so i don't miss out!!

I'll also repeat myself since you seem to be acting very ignorant. I never changed job to avoid RP situation as i was never personally brought into the RP. You never spoke to me individually, nor mentioned me while i was at your 'meeting', (At least my current character as my other one had been shot down in the middle of the street) so if i was to respond, i would be breaking my NLR.

[Auston]

Very hypocrital of you calling me a minge: 

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Good to know you take a deep interest in my steam account though

Look at 6:15 in the video, you are talking about a dead Agent, so how was i supposed to know you are talking about me (Keeping in mind this incident you are talking about took place around 5-10 minutes prior to this situation) when i walk in mid-way through a conversation? Next time i'll make sure to bring my telekinesis powers so i don't miss out!!

I'll also repeat myself since you seem to be acting very ignorant. I never changed job to avoid RP situation as i was never personally brought into the RP. You never spoke to me individually, nor mentioned me while i was at your 'meeting', (At least my current character as my other one had been shot down in the middle of the street) so if i was to respond, i would be breaking my NLR.

You seem to have a horrible attitude. This isnt a BR on H4MZ4.

You seem to be extremely defensive and rude especially.

[Ghost]

Hamza is accusing me of breaking rules when i haven't and i am defending my self. Theres nothing wrong with my attitude, he refuses to read what i have put and instead of discussing the PR its self, he instead decides to stalk my profile.

[H4MZ4]

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Good to know you take a deep interest in my steam account though

Look at 6:15 in the video, you are talking about a dead Agent, so how was i supposed to know you are talking about me (Keeping in mind this incident you are talking about took place around 5-10 minutes prior to this situation) when i walk in mid-way through a conversation? Next time i'll make sure to bring my telekinesis powers so i don't miss out!!

I'll also repeat myself since you seem to be acting very ignorant. I never changed job to avoid RP situation as i was never personally brought into the RP. You never spoke to me individually, nor mentioned me while i was at your 'meeting', (At least my current character as my other one had been shot down in the middle of the street) so if i was to respond, i would be breaking my NLR.

Trapping someone in a box who is prop killing isn't minging, shaking the box was a step too far, I have a long priors but at least I don't get called out by players in OOC for my current behaviour which would show I've changed.

You were brought into it by yourself when we were clearly discussing a report of a secret service agent who has executed a person on the streets (as I'm sure I've mentioned before). I don't know if you did die or not, but at 6:15 Auston didn't talk IG so I assume he was talking to someone else.

I really don't have any issue with it, but again I thought I'd add additional information into it since it was including you, but you keep aruging back about it for some reason.

There's no point going backwards and forwards with it because it's just creating more junk on an already busy thread.

[SilvAfonso]

Adding more stuff about last night

-John Jong is Vice President, he abuses giving out passes and making racist laws

forgot to take screenshoot but he had a law saying "niggers are banned from the city" sorry if im being disrespect to someone in the forums.

That was already dealt with in-game lad by Nightmare i believe using the OOC relay thing.

Also: 

8. Do not post reports if you know the incident has been dealt with in-game by members of staff, because you do not agree with the outcome or otherwise.

Didn't realize Nightmare has dealt whit it, what about rule 8?

[Ghost]

forgot to take screenshoot but he had a law saying "niggers are banned from the city" sorry if im being disrespect to someone in the forums.

That was already dealt with in-game lad by Nightmare i believe using the OOC relay thing.

Also: 

8. Do not post reports if you know the incident has been dealt with in-game by members of staff, because you do not agree with the outcome or otherwise.

Didn't realize Nightmare has dealt whit it, what about rule 8?

he was talking to us all in OOC and you were responding at the same time, but k.

[Doctor Internet]

Under Review.

[Doctor Internet]

Player Report Approved.

0:17 - Evidence is clear. John, as a fireman, stole a Police vehicle.
0:46 - Evidence unclear. However, A37 have been known to do this in prior situations.
2:13 - Clear.
2:26 - Clear again.
2:47 - Once again clear.
3:06 -

v2b [03:00:45] Not Enzyme (STEAM_0:1:156081641) knocked out MrMaaze (STEAM_0:1:127251248) using Tazed
v2b [03:00:45] Not Enzyme (STEAM_0:1:156081641) knocked out Ghost (STEAM_0:1:79699070) using Tazed
v2b [03:00:51] MaxDD (STEAM_0:0:145308674) knocked out Hedge Trimmer (STEAM_0:0:419523141) using Tazed
v2b [03:00:52] Not Enzyme (STEAM_0:1:156081641) knocked out MaxDD (STEAM_0:0:145308674) using Tazed
v2b [03:00:52] MrMaaze (STEAM_0:1:127251248) was killed by prop_ragdoll

3:13 - Checked and confirmed in logs.
3:38 - Clear from evidence.
6:38 - There technically isn't a rule against this.
7:32 - As above.
8:28 - Clear.

Abuse of passes - Yeah, giving a pass to 90% of the server would be abuse.

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XXXLOVERXXX was already punished.
Fxo has similar punishments on record.
Enzyme does not, and as such will receive a lesser punishment.
Ghost has had none approved, thus will reiceve no punishment.
John Jong has an extensive record over a short amount of time, combined with the large number of rule violations, would have received a month's suspension. However, due to his probation, a permanent suspension will be applied.