[Doctor Internet]

So because of how the hit boxes work getting shot in the hand and chest are the same meaning you're just as likely to get knocked out?

But that's not what happens with the beanbag? Hit group, distance and a variety of other factors all go into the knockout time and knockout chance.

[Daley]

More things that can knock you out in the middle of a firefight. I will pass

[Stomm]

-Support

The closest thing I can find to police using Rubber Bullets in anything smaller than a shotgun is a 2.5 year old article about Pinal County Arizona being the first to purchase a Russian pistol designed for Less-Lethal rounds. 

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I feel a better option would be either a 40mm grenade launcher that has a few types of Less-Lethal rounds that it fires, such as tear gas or baton rounds; or a pepperball gun.

[Welker]

-support. Simply because rubber bullets are mostly associated with riot/crowd control. Beanbag shotguns are already used in an unrealistic manner when their main application is for individuals who a harm to themselves, or when they're not a serious threat to others. 

But that is not the case, when beanbag shotguns are used in raids against heavily armed individuals, I don't see why it'd be any different for this. Beside that, Government already has more than enough equipment overall to combat most threats, more emphasis needs to be placed on other areas of the gamemode.

[The Captain]

Is 5dmg per shot but more than the standard mp5 lol
+soupport

[Soviethooves]

Reset damages and magazine sizes due to this being a MP5. This was to be for an AR-15, but as a MP5, the damage needs to be WAY lower.

[Nebula]

Only if we get incendiary ammo

[Soviethooves]

Changed post to say "Percentage will drop FROM 10% due to range. At a certain range, it will flat out not be effective."

[Soviethooves]

Only if we get incendiary ammo

I don't understand the correlation other than them being ammo types?

[Taylor]

Reset damages and magazine sizes due to this being a MP5. This was to be for an AR-15, but as a MP5, the damage needs to be WAY lower.

Obviously this is firing theoretical 'beanbag' bullets so with the exception of range why would the AR-15 do more damage?

[Soviethooves]

Reset damages and magazine sizes due to this being a MP5. This was to be for an AR-15, but as a MP5, the damage needs to be WAY lower.

Obviously this is firing theoretical 'beanbag' bullets so with the exception of range why would the AR-15 do more damage?

Bigger chamber and longer barrel = heavier hit

[Wesley Lawrence]

neutral

Not sure what to pick. I've never seen any MP5s with rubber projectiles being used.
Plus, I tend to... stay away from less-lethal as much as I can...

[Taylor]

Reset damages and magazine sizes due to this being a MP5. This was to be for an AR-15, but as a MP5, the damage needs to be WAY lower.

Obviously this is firing theoretical 'beanbag' bullets so with the exception of range why would the AR-15 do more damage?

Bigger chamber and longer barrel = heavier hit

I thought it was the round itself that gave a gun it's power, unless you can find an AR-15 chambered in 9mm as a demonstration :)

[Soviethooves]

Obviously this is firing theoretical 'beanbag' bullets so with the exception of range why would the AR-15 do more damage?

Bigger chamber and longer barrel = heavier hit

I thought it was the round itself that gave a gun it's power, unless you can find an AR-15 chambered in 9mm as a demonstration

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The round is a factor, however some weapons have a bigger "kick" that pushes the round faster and/or harder to allow better or less inflicted damage.

If it was just the round that varied the damage, why would a AR-15, HK 416, or AK-101 do different damage?

[Doctor Internet]

Pushing for Staff Review.

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