[Soviethooves]

I actually don't understand why we have the equipment cost money. It's issued to the officers under the Government's expense. Why should officers pay what is the equivalent of $30 in our economy, for equipment they get with the job?

[Toxic]

I actually don't understand why we have the equipment cost money. It's issued to the officers under the Government's expense. Why should officers pay what is the equivalent of $30 in our economy, for equipment they get with the job?

cash sink, not a great reason but there it is

[Soviethooves]

I actually don't understand why we have the equipment cost money. It's issued to the officers under the Government's expense. Why should officers pay what is the equivalent of $30 in our economy, for equipment they get with the job?

cash sink, not a great reason but there it is

Still doesn't make sense if the money goes nowhere, especially if it's chump change.

[Toxic]

I actually don't understand why we have the equipment cost money. It's issued to the officers under the Government's expense. Why should officers pay what is the equivalent of $30 in our economy, for equipment they get with the job?

cash sink, not a great reason but there it is

Still doesn't make sense if the money goes nowhere, especially if it's chump change.

Just how a cash sink works, much like buying any sort of goods from a merchant in the server.

[Oliver Burke]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

[Gideon]

How about a p90 instead of an AR?

P90 isn't seen in popular use by Police Officers.

Galils?

A galil SAR is more of what a low class PMC would use more than police.
If you have to put it that way, G36

Galil SAR is actually a pretty reliable weapon, but not seen in police use unless you are in Israel. Thing was made there and is used. A LOT.

G36C...meh.

@Soviethooves 
I Live in Israel,
I often don't See officers or "Shotrim" You could them in Israel Whit Galil SAR,
Altough the Special forcers I do see whit AR-15's, Or M16's.

[francysol3c]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

[Daley]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

Criminal RP is declining, and not common. The police has a great amount of tools that they can use, while they should be able to equip more weapons, I do not think more need to be added to the police armory without a proper presidential income and expenditure system, allowing for that.

[francysol3c]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

Criminal RP is declining, and not common. The police has a great amount of tools that they can use, while they should be able to equip more weapons, I do not think more need to be added to the police armory without a proper presidential income and expenditure system, allowing for that.

Problem with a presidential expenditure system is that greedy presidents would just completely defund the police force because "idc i wanna make money", leaving them to be ripped to shreds by criminals.

[Daley]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

Criminal RP is declining, and not common. The police has a great amount of tools that they can use, while they should be able to equip more weapons, I do not think more need to be added to the police armory without a proper presidential income and expenditure system, allowing for that.

Problem with a presidential expenditure system is that greedy presidents would just completely defund the police force because "idc i wanna make money", leaving them to be ripped to shreds by criminals.

There would be measures in place to prevent that

[francysol3c]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

Criminal RP is declining, and not common. The police has a great amount of tools that they can use, while they should be able to equip more weapons, I do not think more need to be added to the police armory without a proper presidential income and expenditure system, allowing for that.

Problem with a presidential expenditure system is that greedy presidents would just completely defund the police force because "idc i wanna make money", leaving them to be ripped to shreds by criminals.

There would be measures in place to prevent that

The system could work, thinking about it. Want to discuss further in steam chats and make a suggestion?

[Vimpto]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

This ^ Mendoza's get wrecked

[SirWulf]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

Criminal RP is declining, and not common. The police has a great amount of tools that they can use, while they should be able to equip more weapons, I do not think more need to be added to the police armory without a proper presidential income and expenditure system, allowing for that.

I honestly believe that Criminal RP is down because they have that mentality that it is okay to take on the entire police force.  They should be avoiding the police, not walking into Nexus and kill everyone.  The police should have tools that are more advanced then the majority of the criminal element.  They should be a force to be feared, not mocked.

[Hungames]

+support

In the US, through government programs, even small law enforcement agencies are receiving free, or heavily discounted firearms and equipment. Some small agencies are receiving MRAPs and bearcats at very low price points. The AR15 is one example of a rifle that these agencies are receiving since it's reliable and it fits the cops' needs.

Adding the AR15 to the armory would boost policeRP and stop criminals who mow down the whole police force, including SWAT, within 5 minutes.

It seems to me that the only people who don't support these types of suggestions are the ones who enjoy killing the whole police force without difficulty.

[Daley]

-Support

From what i have seen the police with shotguns can already deal with heavily armed situations without calling SWAT. The SWAT are already practically useless unless there is a mass raid or something so why make them pointless by giving the police AR-15's?

Even if someone does go SWAT after the update they will likely just end using the AWM to make their job worth while which will be strange as usually you don't see entire sniper swat teams.

Police should not be able to deal with heavily armed situations where the suspects have full ceramic plating and scar-h's. The shotgun is good enough. Giving them AR-15's will simply reduce basing even more then it already is due to the fact the police will be unstoppable and make taking them on literal suicide even if you have 3-4 people.

*Criminal tears intensify*
1) Police is not meant to be chewed like cardboard, and most police forces in america issue patrol rifles to LEO's.
2) Shotgun is WAAY better at close range. AR-15's for medium range would just give officers another option.
3) Unstoppable? Rn i can still equip ceramic and spam medkits as a copper and completely substitute a SWAT breacher's job.
4) Underground RP isn't meant to be "Let's mow down the whole police force, payday style" it's meant to be risky, involve stealth and to be afraid of the police force.

Criminal RP is declining, and not common. The police has a great amount of tools that they can use, while they should be able to equip more weapons, I do not think more need to be added to the police armory without a proper presidential income and expenditure system, allowing for that.

I honestly believe that Criminal RP is down because they have that mentality that it is okay to take on the entire police force.  They should be avoiding the police, not walking into Nexus and kill everyone.  The police should have tools that are more advanced then the majority of the criminal element.  They should be a force to be feared, not mocked.

To me it seems more like the police is desperate for action, considering the lack of events. Whenever there is the slightest report, or suspicion the police force scrambles. Besides, the map we are currently on is really small, doesn't help neither. It's a bit of a two way street.