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Nov 26, 2015, 04:10 AM
Wearing a burqa in public in the Swiss canton of Ticino will be an offence punishable by a fine of up to 10,000 francs ($9,813), the cantonal parliament decided on Monday.
[font=arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif]The parliament approved a law banning the garment, which covers the body from head to feet and is worn in public by women in many Muslim countries.
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Citizens in the Italian-speaking canton in the south of Switzerland supported the ban in a referendum in September 2013, with around two in three voters backing the move.
Security measures were reinforced for the parliamentary session dealing with the burqa. the ATS news agency reported.
A metal detection device was temporarily installed to screen people coming into the parliament, the agency said.
The Ticino government had wanted the ban on burqas and niqabs (face veil) to also apply to other forms of head covering that hide the face, such as masks, worn by demonstrators and balaclavas.
But MPs voted for a law that applies only to the wearing of Muslim veils to avoid putting that on the same level as hooligans and masked demonstrators.
The minimum fine is 100 francs running up to the maximum of 10,000 francs.
The law makes no exceptions for tourists.
People visiting Ticino will be informed at airports and by customs at the Italian border that is unlawful in the canton to hide your face.
Around 40,000 visitors from the Middle East traveled to Ticino last year, a tourism market that is growing.
The Ticino law was inspired by a similar law in force in France , which was upheld by the European Court of Human Rights in July 2014.
The Swiss parliament, following the recommendations of the federal government, said the ban does not violate federal law.
[font=arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif]It is not yet known when the new rules will come into force.[/font]
Source: https://www.thelocal.ch/20151124/mps-bac...-in-ticino
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Nov 26, 2015, 06:07 AM
Holy shit.
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Nov 26, 2015, 07:54 AM
Yeah, thats a smart thing to do -__-
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Nov 26, 2015, 11:21 AM
I'm still not altogether as to why they're banning them; what's the point?
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Nov 26, 2015, 02:58 PM
what dafuq
i rarly see burqa's here in germany but hopefully they dont get banned
lol probaly some people would react like in cityRP
'RAID THE PRES FOR SHITTY LAW ATTACK FREEDOM FIGHTER'
yea but what now the point for banning them for real ?
this world kinda breaks out in a World War 3 these ISIS dudes changed the world holy cow
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Nov 26, 2015, 04:21 PM
(Nov 26, 2015, 02:58 PM)Yagmi Wrote: what dafuq
i rarly see burqa's here in germany but hopefully they dont get banned
lol probaly some people would react like in cityRP
'RAID THE PRES FOR SHITTY LAW ATTACK FREEDOM FIGHTER'
yea but what now the point for banning them for real ?
this world kinda breaks out in a World War 3 these ISIS dudes changed the world holy cow
Incase you haven't noticed we're already in WW3
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Nov 26, 2015, 05:15 PM
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i meant something other with the CityRP thing not the muslims would react like that way....
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Nov 26, 2015, 05:50 PM
Interesting decision.
There may be many reasons - in most countries it is frowned upon to cover one's face regardless of religious background.
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Nov 26, 2015, 06:39 PM
I don't frown upon this decision.
I understand it's religion meaning and such, but it's kind of intimidating when walking past a women with a Burqa on. The basic, and fundamental communication when walking past someone is gone. You can't see them smile, or even look at you really. I have no problem with Muslims, however I feel this practice is antisocial.
It does sound petty from my opinion, but being able to smile at the person next to you on the train is vital to a functioning community. If you can't even look at someone properly, how can you say that their culture is assimilated into ours? This notion is one of the reasons in which assimilation doesn't occur (In London for example.)
Is is a step to far? Maybe. But from a personal point of view, it is welcomed.
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Nov 27, 2015, 08:50 AM
(Nov 26, 2015, 06:39 PM)Jono Wrote: assimilated
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Dec 1, 2015, 08:13 PM
If I can't walk around wearing a mask into banks and other places, no one should be able to, simple stuff. I also question the true reasons for wearing a burqa a lot of the time. Is it purely religious? Is it a feminist statement? It gets into murky water, all I know is that there's a big double standard. If you want to wear a burqa, live in a predominately Muslim country, if you want to live in a westernized society - it's expected you accommodate and follow our rules.
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Dec 1, 2015, 08:20 PM
(Dec 1, 2015, 08:13 PM)Vauld Wrote: If I can't walk around wearing a mask into banks and other places, no one should be able to, simple stuff. I also question the true reasons for wearing a burqa a lot of the time. Is it purely religious? Is it a feminist statement? It gets into murky water, all I know is that there's a big double standard. If you want to wear a burqa, live in a predominately Muslim country, if you want to live in a westernized society - it's expected you accommodate and follow our rules.
Amen.
I always thought that the purpose of burqas was so that women can't be 'sexualized'.
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Dec 1, 2015, 08:23 PM
I read a bunch of stuff online, women claiming "God told me to" all the way to "I didn't feel like picking out real clothes"...
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Dec 1, 2015, 08:53 PM
(Dec 1, 2015, 08:23 PM)Vauld Wrote: I read a bunch of stuff online, women claiming "God told me to" all the way to "I didn't feel like picking out real clothes"...
Of course they would say that, they're trying to justify something that they are forced to do (or of course that may be what they're told to say if anyone questions it). They'd be punished if they spoke out against it.
Quote:"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful"
— Qur'an, Surah 24 (An-Nur), Verse 31
Quote:The correct view as indicated by the evidence is that the woman's face is 'awrah which must be covered. It is the most tempting part of her body, because what people look at most is the face, so the face is the greatest 'awrah of a woman. - Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
- Basically a woman will probably get raped if she shows her face...gj Islam
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Dec 2, 2015, 01:00 AM
I agree with Jono and this decision 100%.
I didn't even know it was legal to cover 90% of your face in public, what about ID checks and CCTV (you're not even allowed to wear your hood up in my school so the CCTV cameras can record everyone and it's considered rude to wear your hood up indoors for many reasons). I believe this decision wasn't based on religion, but on the actual piece of clothing which is true judgement.
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