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Decay.
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#1
Dec 6, 2019, 10:32 PM
Your Steam Name:

Time/Date: 9:20pm 06/12/19

Your Steam ID: 
STEAM_0:0:80752530


Name of Staff Member:

[L²] Decay
Summary/Details:
Decay decided as punishment for completely within the rules roleplay to blacklist me for 6 hours as president and remove one of my reps (Of which I worked very hard and usually spend upwards of 4+ hours planning for.)

This was as a result of me demoting the police chief and one other officer for attempting to arrest me for running a red light (which was at the time not illegal in any of the perm laws) and following through with an in character agreement with another player.

The agreement was that I would give the player an LEO pass to use ELS lights on his vehicle as a display piece in a museum at downtown motors and that he was not to drive the dodge monaco on public roads - I have him a bolo to outline that which can be found in the logs. And if he was to break that rule the car would be made property of the government to be auctioned or otherwise used - I decided to use it as my personal vehicle. 

The officers tried to arrest me for theft and ended up fining me, I demoted them shortly after because in my eyes it was corruption - should also be noted the officers attempted to arrest and disarm my SSAs twice during the altercation (One of which was actually witnessed by Decay.)

I also found it massively inappropriate how he seemed content if not smug with punishing me and removing my rep saying "You're gonna love this, watch this" and pretty much just saying "it's a common sense law" in regards to the traffic light violation - nothing short of a poor attitude maybe a bad day whatever, all I know is if I acted the same way towards him I'd surely have a ban. 

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#2
Dec 6, 2019, 10:35 PM
(Dec 6, 2019, 10:34 PM)Zaidplays Wrote: Cry me a river

thanks for your input
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Dec 6, 2019, 10:37 PM
I also recall decay saying I was feeding him "Bullshit" check the logs, check the bolo. Everything I have said is the truth and I'd seriously like an apology. - It's not acceptable for me to act this way towards staff so it really shouldn't be acceptable for them to act this way towards me.
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Dec 6, 2019, 10:39 PM
(Dec 6, 2019, 10:38 PM)Zaidplays Wrote:
(Dec 6, 2019, 10:35 PM)Apex Wrote:
(Dec 6, 2019, 10:34 PM)Zaidplays Wrote: Cry me a river

thanks for your input

np sarg, if you take a step back you'll notice its just a server on a game not that erious
nothing to do with you, please leave the thread.
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#5
Dec 6, 2019, 11:05 PM
I mean, traffic violations as you noted in the first sentence of your summary would be pretty common sense to follow. Driving like a madman will obviously land you in trouble with the police.
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Dec 6, 2019, 11:14 PM
(Dec 6, 2019, 11:05 PM)Night Wrote: I mean, traffic violations as you noted in the first sentence of your summary would be pretty common sense to follow. Driving like a madman will obviously land you in trouble with the police.

Hardly driving like a mad man, I did not speed, I did not cross dangerously onto the otherside of the road.
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Dec 6, 2019, 11:27 PM
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Dec 8, 2019, 01:10 PM
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Dec 8, 2019, 03:48 PM
(This post was last modified: Dec 8, 2019, 03:51 PM by Decay. Edited 1 time in total.)
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Dec 8, 2019, 05:19 PM
please bare in mind the hummer was already at nexus, so it was already there for me to take. which was within the confines of RP mine to take, use, do whatever I wanted with not unlike my own car...

 There is no law regarding traffic lights and you explaining how they work doesn't change that. - Keep the rep.




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Dec 15, 2019, 12:56 PM
Hi Apex, apologies for the delay in getting round to this, thanks for bearing with us.

I've discussed the case with Overlewd and we're both on the same page here and agree that the punishment given out was valid, and that he was okay to be taking away a REP as a form of punishment. This is done by many staff members, including myself, when they feel that roleplay wasn't up to the standard we expect from someone with that many REP's and in this case, this would be considered an unorthodox punishment but it's still fine.

The only thing we were concerned to hear about was how Decay responded whilst in a sit, and this will be something I'll discuss with him. The lack of evidence on this count does make it hard to determine exactly what was said and the context if any that was behind it, but Decay has given his statement too confirming this which I appreciatd, but regardless this shouldn't happen and I apologise that it did.

In regards to the traffic lights, it is still common sense to follow that regardless. Not everything can be covered by the rules and perma laws, thus we expect our players to use common sense to fill the gaps.

Decay will be reminded about proper behaviour towards players, but other than this no abuse noted.

Thank you,
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