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#16
Sep 3, 2018, 12:10 PM
(Sep 3, 2018, 11:56 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 01:07 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 12:15 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote: As long as your living life the way you want to live it, who can stop you.

Let's decriminalise everything???

As long as murderers live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as thieves live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as rapists live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.

You have clearly taken what I said way out of proportion. This thread is about transgenderism NOT about criminals, which has got nothing to do with the thread.

It's called a comparison.
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#17
Sep 3, 2018, 12:12 PM
(Sep 3, 2018, 12:10 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 11:56 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 01:07 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote: Let's decriminalise everything???

As long as murderers live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as thieves live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as rapists live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.

You have clearly taken what I said way out of proportion. This thread is about transgenderism NOT about criminals, which has got nothing to do with the thread.

It's called a comparison.

So you're comparing people who are transgender to murderers, thieves and rapists. How lovely!
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#18
Sep 3, 2018, 12:27 PM
(Sep 3, 2018, 12:12 PM)Quest Wrote: So you're comparing people who are transgender to murderers, thieves and rapists. How lovely!

Except that's not what I said. I'm comparing the idea that you should be allowed to live life how you want to live it. Except, there is a system we call law and order which prevents us from doing what we want in order for society to function smoothly.

I would extend on my points more but whenever I do, 90% of the message gets missed and you attempt to attack something that isn't there.

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#19
Sep 3, 2018, 12:47 PM
(Sep 3, 2018, 01:07 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 12:15 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote: As long as your living life the way you want to live it, who can stop you.

Let's decriminalise everything???

As long as murderers live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as thieves live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as rapists live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.

I'll be honest, I don't see how this is a valid comparison.

I don't see how being transgender can even remotely be compared to murderers, thieves or rapists. Those 3 things are all crimes and have a negative effect on other people, of course they should not be allowed.
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#20
Sep 3, 2018, 12:51 PM
(Sep 3, 2018, 12:10 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 11:56 AM)Mr Hallowed Wrote:
(Sep 3, 2018, 01:07 AM)Lord Octagon Wrote: Let's decriminalise everything???

As long as murderers live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as thieves live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.
As long as rapists live life the way they want to live it, who can stop them.

You have clearly taken what I said way out of proportion. This thread is about transgenderism NOT about criminals, which has got nothing to do with the thread.

It's called a comparison.

A really bad one in this case.

Quote:Comparison:
A consideration or estimate of the similarities or dissimilarities between two things or people
The things you have compared have absolutely no similarities to transgenderism. What two consenting adults do in their own lives shouldn't be dictated by anyone or anything. Who are you to dictate what people feel like or are attracted to?
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#21
Sep 3, 2018, 01:05 PM
As long as it's not hurting people, do what u wanna do. That's the point that's being made. Murdering people hurts people. Being trans is not something people can help feeling. It's not their fault. Quote religious verses and post right wing speakers all you want, it doesn't change how these people feel or if they can help how they feel. Just like you can't help being gay. Being oppressive and discriminative to trans people and alienating them for something they can't help, does hurt people.
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#22
Sep 3, 2018, 01:36 PM
(Sep 2, 2018, 11:33 PM)Hungames Wrote:
(Sep 2, 2018, 11:27 PM)Overlewd Wrote:
(Sep 2, 2018, 11:13 PM)kian Wrote: locked for no reason lmao

Literally wrote the reason on the thread but sure whatever.

I think the point is we were having a discussion and the OP was able to just end it because he didn't like it. 

This is the serious discussion subforum. We should be able to have our discussion.

The OP could have also deleted their own thread without asking me to lock it at all, achieving basically the same result. *shrug* It is entirely their right.
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Sep 3, 2018, 02:04 PM
(Sep 3, 2018, 01:05 PM)LiVHDX Wrote: As long as it's not hurting people, do what u wanna do. That's the point that's being made. Murdering people hurts people. Being trans is not something people can help feeling. It's not their fault. Quote religious verses and post right wing speakers all you want, it doesn't change how these people feel or if they can help how they feel. Just like you can't help being gay. Being oppressive and discriminative to trans people and alienating them for something they can't help, does hurt people.

When he was comparing Transgenderism to other things that people want to live their life as (murderers, thieves). He isn’t necessarily saying being a tranny isn’t as bad as being a rapist.
Compare it to something less harmful, where the only victim is yourself, which arguably transgenderism is: illegal drug use, speeding, suicide. Just because you want to do these things doesn’t make it allowed. Those are just some examples that aren’t inherently immoral like the examples Octagon used.
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#24
Sep 3, 2018, 02:28 PM
I guess we learnt that no one, except the redneck above, can read.
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#25
Sep 3, 2018, 03:53 PM
I personally don’t have an issue as long as they don’t force their gender dysphoria on me. If you are biologically a male, I will call you a man. Gender and Sex to me are the same and always will be. You can act like the other gender, dress like them, or even talk in the fashion of one, but you’re still the gender your sex is regardless imo.

Also it’s sad to see that thread was shut down. Serious discussions were held and it got shutdown for a serious discussion. Maybe they should’ve just not posted in that part of the forum if they didn’t want differing opinions. We should add a safe space forum where no one can add differing opinions to mine.
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#27
Sep 19, 2018, 02:08 AM
As for Trans, be who you want, just don't expect much difference out of me, everyone is a ken doll to me.

As for safe spaces, fuck those.  Safe spaces are also called targets from other perspectives.


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#28
Sep 22, 2018, 02:35 PM
First of all, I believe that transgenderism is almost on the borderline of a mental illness and because of the high depression and suicide rates amongst transgender people they should see psychiatric help to deal with it (not to stop being transgender, just finding a professional to talk to as a way to cope with it better).

However, I think of transgender people similar to how I think about religious people.

You can do what you like as long as you don't hurt anyone.
You can do what you like as long as you don't try to force your ideologies on anyone (particularly children), don't try and make me refer to you by whatever gender you pretend to be. If you're biologically a male, then I will call you a male, and if you're biologically a female, then I will call you a female.
I also believe that transgender people should stay within whatever limits are set for their biological gender, eg. male/female segregated sports, bathrooms, etc.

I'm left leaning, but Jesus Christ, the PC far left drives me insane.
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#29
Sep 22, 2018, 07:19 PM
It's gender dismorphia and potential body mutilation. A mental illness. It's not natural.

In my old sixth form, they decided rather than to give us work experience week (which was what it was meant to be), they made it "LGBT week". People need to stop brainwashing people into thinking the exact same that they do.

People have opinions, let them have them.
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Sep 22, 2018, 10:59 PM
(Sep 22, 2018, 07:19 PM)Rydolph Wrote: It's gender dismorphia and potential body mutilation. A mental illness. It's not natural.

In my old sixth form, they decided rather than to give us work experience week (which was what it was meant to be), they made it "LGBT week". People need to stop brainwashing people into thinking the exact same that they do.

People have opinions, let them have them.

I have no clue why transgenderism is still included in LGBT. Three of the things in LGBT are natural sexualities, the other one is a borderline mental illness at the very least.

But yeah, just like other pointless themed weeks for minority groups it needs to be done away with.

Relevant:

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