[Dan]

Reported Players: Tyrone/Ricky/PawnShop (STEAM_0:1:118528806) (@Ricky LaFleur)
Server: Rockford
Time: 2018-Jun-02 19:00
Summary: 8.2 - Walls used to surround a base can't be more than 4 metres (PHX units) tall. If there are uneven surfaces where the walls are placed, some leniency will be allowed to compensate.


8.5 - Bases which have extremely unfair advantages for the defending party, including but not limited to: crouch/prone-only entrances, mazes, long narrow corridors, entrance keypads being visible by the defenders, and others, can be considered a Doomfort and aren't allowed.


At 0:42, you can see me rolling up on the suspect I am chasing, Tyrone's, massive base. Tyrone is a "Car Thief", and his 'chop shot' has walls that are at about 8 PHX units high, armed to the teeth with 2 or 3 other people.

8.6 - Your base must fit your character's roleplay. E.g Poor characters can't afford to base in high-tech pseudo-military bases.

1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Tyrone the guy you reported is also listed as a car thief, and it looks like that area may have been a chopshop, though if theres anymore evidence about the base design, the base may be in violation of build rules
1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: I think the wall is higher than 4m
1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and bases MUST fit the RP at hand
1:56 PM - [C3] Dan: there's a walkway on top too
1:57 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: A giant wall with a walkway to shoot over, in no way fits the RP of a chopshop
1:57 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: unless i can see inside, i cant say if that area fits or not
...
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and of course he has walkways on the top to shoot down from
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and he has 15 kills
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: add that to it
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: So this is somthing hes been doing for some time
2:03 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: It may also fall under 8.5...

2:03 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Since the entryway is directly in their line of fire at all times
2:03 PM - [C3] Dan: theres no cover for anyone
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: well actually no
...
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: theres a cover over the enterence
...
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: yeah
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: the keypad is shielded from the walkway
2:05 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Sight only, its thin enough rifle rounds punch right through
2:05 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: it will only stop buck and maybe pistol

Evidence: ^

[Ricky LaFleur]

We have fixed the base since yesterday and it is longer a doomfort in the eyes of all the people we let in to see it, including people like ninja, who none of are friends with.

a) You have keypad cover.
b) The gate is no longer a fence, so we can't see you through it.

I was not police baiting, I simply didn't want to get caught by police as I had a P90, M3 Super 90 and G3A3 on my back whilst wearing a mask. I tried to evade and drive back to my base where I could get rid of my guns but you guys decided to pull your own out and aim at us so you got shot. in no way was that police baiting, if anything its the opposite. I was trying to escape police.

[Vimpto]

I can confirm it is nearly double the allowed hight

[Dan]

I understand 8.5 is very iffy, but 8.2 is an obvious violation.
Can you explain 8.6, you are a "Car Thief" at that time, so do you have a chop shop set up inside, and if you do, why do you have the need for a shooting walkway on the top of 8PHX high walls for your chop shop?

[Firav]

I was not police baiting, I simply didn't want to get caught by police as I had a P90, M3 Super 90 and G3A3 on my back whilst wearing a mask. I tried to evade and drive back to my base where I could get rid of my guns but you guys decided to pull your own out and aim at us so you got shot. in no way was that police baiting, if anything its the opposite. I was trying to escape police.

I can understand that you did not want to be caught by the police. That does not excuse that you clearly sped past numerous officers on US 54, then continue to turn around on Century St, back onto US 54 and perform dangerous maneuvers with your vehicle in front of officers. You were clearly trying to lure officers to your base full of weaponry by taking the longer way around.

[Ricky LaFleur]

I was not police baiting, I simply didn't want to get caught by police as I had a P90, M3 Super 90 and G3A3 on my back whilst wearing a mask. I tried to evade and drive back to my base where I could get rid of my guns but you guys decided to pull your own out and aim at us so you got shot. in no way was that police baiting, if anything its the opposite. I was trying to escape police.

I can understand that you did not want to be caught by the police. That does not excuse that you clearly sped past numerous officers on US 54, then continue to turn around on Century St, back onto US 54 and perform dangerous maneuvers with your vehicle in front of officers. You were clearly trying to lure officers to your base full of weaponry by taking the longer way around.

try again

[Dan]

I understand 8.5 is very iffy, but 8.2 is an obvious violation.
Can you explain 8.6, you are a "Car Thief" at that time, so do you have a chop shop set up inside, and if you do, why do you have the need for a shooting walkway on the top of 8PHX high walls for your chop shop?

@Ricky LaFleur

[Vimpto]

Involved in the raid

How did puffitee out of no where get onto the roof of 327 to snipe?

[Dan]

Involved in the raid

How did puffitee out of no where get onto the roof of 327 to snipe?

Their walkway was tall enough to allow them to jump onto the roof

[Vimpto]

Involved in the raid

How did puffitee out of no where get onto the roof of 327 to snipe?

Their walkway was tall enough to allow them to jump onto the roof

To jump from 330 all the way to 327 without anyone noticing? With no trace of a ladder either? Seems like ladder abuse to me

[Ricky LaFleur]

I understand 8.5 is very iffy, but 8.2 is an obvious violation.
Can you explain 8.6, you are a "Car Thief" at that time, so do you have a chop shop set up inside, and if you do, why do you have the need for a shooting walkway on the top of 8PHX high walls for your chop shop?

@Ricky LaFleur

i didnt have any stolen cars at thr time, so didnt need a chopshop. but if i wanted to start stealing cars again, i wouldve used that. i dont need a reason for having high walls for a chopshop. i was also basing with 4 other people, who had the same clan tag, but we just had different roles. we each did different things. obviously im gonna help defend the kingpins drugs or another persons contra

[Ricky LaFleur]

Involved in the raid

How did puffitee out of no where get onto the roof of 327 to snipe?

Their walkway was tall enough to allow them to jump onto the roof

To jump from 330 all the way to 327 without anyone noticing? With no trace of a ladder either? Seems like ladder abuse to me

wtf is 327. also, the ladder went up to the walkway. it was not an intended feature for you to be able to get onto the roof from the walkway, but lowering anything would mess with the door and the whole point of the walkway

[Dan]

oh I don’t know the warehouse addresses. They were able to get on the warehouse they are basing on through their walkway. I didn’t see them on any other roofs.

[Ricky LaFleur]

Reported Players: Tyrone/Ricky/PawnShop (STEAM_0:1:118528806)  (@Ricky LaFleur)
Server: Rockford
Time: 2018-Jun-02 19:00
Summary: 8.2 - Walls used to surround a base can't be more than 4 metres (PHX units) tall. If there are uneven surfaces where the walls are placed, some leniency will be allowed to compensate.
2

8.5 - Bases which have extremely unfair advantages for the defending party, including but not limited to: crouch/prone-only entrances, mazes, long narrow corridors, entrance keypads being visible by the defenders, and others, can be considered a Doomfort and aren't allowed.


At 0:42, you can see me rolling up on the suspect I am chasing, Tyrone's, massive base. Tyrone is a "Car Thief", and his 'chop shot' has walls that are at about 8 PHX units high, armed to the teeth with 2 or 3 other people.

8.6 - Your base must fit your character's roleplay. E.g Poor characters can't afford to base in high-tech pseudo-military bases.

1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Tyrone the guy you reported is also listed as a car thief, and it looks like that area may have been a chopshop, though if theres anymore evidence about the base design, the base may be in violation of build rules
1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: I think the wall is higher than 4m
1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and bases MUST fit the RP at hand
1:56 PM - [C3] Dan: there's a walkway on top too
1:57 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: A giant wall with a walkway to shoot over, in no way fits the RP of a chopshop
1:57 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: unless i can see inside, i cant say if that area fits or not
...
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and of course he has walkways on the top to shoot down from
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and he has 15 kills
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: add that to it
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: So this is somthing hes been doing for some time
2:03 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: It may also fall under 8.5...

2:03 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Since the entryway is directly in their line of fire at all times
2:03 PM - [C3] Dan: theres no cover for anyone
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: well actually no
...
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: theres a cover over the enterence
...
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: yeah
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: the keypad is shielded from the walkway
2:05 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Sight only, its thin enough rifle rounds punch right through
2:05 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: it will only stop buck and maybe pistol

Evidence: ^

 

after reading the definition of 8.2, i can confirm i was in violation of the height limit. 

after reading the definition of 8.5, i can confirm i was NOT in violation as the attacking party was not visible while trying to keypad crack so only the height limit was breached. 

after reading rule 8.6, i can confirm i was not in violation due there being multiple other people using it for different purposes, we are a heavily militarised clan and the base fitted the needs and roleplay style of the 5 or 6 members inside, all with different jobs.

[Vimpto]

Reported Players: Tyrone/Ricky/PawnShop (STEAM_0:1:118528806)  (@Ricky LaFleur)
Server: Rockford
Time: 2018-Jun-02 19:00
Summary: 8.2 - Walls used to surround a base can't be more than 4 metres (PHX units) tall. If there are uneven surfaces where the walls are placed, some leniency will be allowed to compensate.
2

8.5 - Bases which have extremely unfair advantages for the defending party, including but not limited to: crouch/prone-only entrances, mazes, long narrow corridors, entrance keypads being visible by the defenders, and others, can be considered a Doomfort and aren't allowed.


At 0:42, you can see me rolling up on the suspect I am chasing, Tyrone's, massive base. Tyrone is a "Car Thief", and his 'chop shot' has walls that are at about 8 PHX units high, armed to the teeth with 2 or 3 other people.

8.6 - Your base must fit your character's roleplay. E.g Poor characters can't afford to base in high-tech pseudo-military bases.

1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Tyrone the guy you reported is also listed as a car thief, and it looks like that area may have been a chopshop, though if theres anymore evidence about the base design, the base may be in violation of build rules
1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: I think the wall is higher than 4m
1:56 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and bases MUST fit the RP at hand
1:56 PM - [C3] Dan: there's a walkway on top too
1:57 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: A giant wall with a walkway to shoot over, in no way fits the RP of a chopshop
1:57 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: unless i can see inside, i cant say if that area fits or not
...
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and of course he has walkways on the top to shoot down from
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: and he has 15 kills
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: add that to it
2:02 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: So this is somthing hes been doing for some time
2:03 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: It may also fall under 8.5...

2:03 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Since the entryway is directly in their line of fire at all times
2:03 PM - [C3] Dan: theres no cover for anyone
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: well actually no
...
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: theres a cover over the enterence
...
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: yeah
2:04 PM - [C3] Dan: the keypad is shielded from the walkway
2:05 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: Sight only, its thin enough rifle rounds punch right through
2:05 PM - [L²:RP][F.I] BlackDog: it will only stop buck and maybe pistol

Evidence: ^

 

after reading the definition of 8.2, i can confirm i was in violation of the height limit. 

after reading the definition of 8.5, i can confirm i was NOT in violation as the attacking party was not visible while trying to keypad crack so only the height limit was breached. 

after reading rule 8.6, i can confirm i was not in violation due there being multiple other people using it for different purposes, we are a heavily militarised clan and the base fitted the needs and roleplay style of the 5 or 6 members inside, all with different jobs.

You are in violation of 8.6, it's your base weather people inside t are different I jobs you a still own the large wall base so it must fit your characters rp