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CityRP Whitelist the Gov or add a Cadet System
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#16
May 21, 2018, 09:19 PM
(May 21, 2018, 09:01 PM)Eclipze Wrote: -Support

I believe restricting players from joining the police force (which is the most appreciated job) when they start out with low hours will make a lot of people not continue to play on the server. While I still believe there are a lot of nuts on this server who shouldn't play as police I dont believe we should restrict them. Who would handle all the applications that would come in everyday? How can the recruit team avoid any sort of corruption or favorising? So to say a friend with 1000 hours should have the same expectations as a player who they dont know with 100 hours.

Who said anything about an application or recruitment team? This is about approving a concept for something to be done for the government teams. You should suggest an idea, not -Support off of what you think the system would be.
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#17
May 22, 2018, 11:16 AM
The whole system (promotions, ...) will be biased. I'll just quote Eclipze here as this sums it up.

Quote:How can the recruit team avoid any sort of corruption or favorising?

In my opinion, it is impossible to avoid bias.


Add a cadet job and that's it. After x amount of hours one receive the normal officer rank.

I really love the idea itself as current forces are just a hell of a mess, but it won't work out well enough.

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May 22, 2018, 03:54 PM
(May 22, 2018, 11:16 AM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: The whole system (promotions, ...) will be biased. I'll just quote Eclipze here as this sums it up.

Quote:How can the recruit team avoid any sort of corruption or favorising?

In my opinion, it is impossible to avoid bias.


Add a cadet job and that's it. After x amount of hours one receive the normal officer rank.

I really love the idea itself as current forces are just a hell of a mess, but it won't work out well enough.

-support

Why are you -Supporting if you support a Cadet System?
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May 23, 2018, 11:53 AM
(May 22, 2018, 03:54 PM)Gungranny Wrote:
(May 22, 2018, 11:16 AM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: The whole system (promotions, ...) will be biased. I'll just quote Eclipze here as this sums it up.

Quote:How can the recruit team avoid any sort of corruption or favorising?

In my opinion, it is impossible to avoid bias.


Add a cadet job and that's it. After x amount of hours one receive the normal officer rank.

I really love the idea itself as current forces are just a hell of a mess, but it won't work out well enough.

-support

Why are you -Supporting if you support a Cadet System?


+support for the Cadet System

-support for a Whitelist System
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#20
May 25, 2018, 01:59 PM
Neutral

How long do you want the process to be?
Making people need to apply for a month, might make the police force only have a few players in it.

What about players who were good police, but are afraid of the testing?
This may lead to ex-cops going to the criminal side, thus strengthening it.

Summary:
We need to have a buffer time, while people can apply, but new people still wouldn't be denied access to the force.

@"Gungranny" please answer the questions above in order for me to take your thought-process into consideration,
and form an opinion on the matter.
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#21
May 25, 2018, 09:17 PM
@Markus 

This isn’t about a specific system. You need to answer those questions with your own idea. This suggestion is for the concept or idea that people DO want sole sort of restricted government.

You +Support if you think restrictions are necessary and even can describe your version of the government restrictions.

You -Support if you don’t like the idea of us restricting government, no matter how it is done.
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May 25, 2018, 10:36 PM
(May 25, 2018, 09:17 PM)Gungranny Wrote: @Markus 

This isn’t about a specific system. You need to answer those questions with your own idea. This suggestion is for the concept or idea that people DO want sole sort of restricted government.

You +Support if you think restrictions are necessary and even can describe your version of the government restrictions.

You -Support if you don’t like the idea of us restricting government, no matter how it is done.

I want it to be implemented, but I don't know if it will be a good system.
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#23
May 25, 2018, 11:45 PM
(May 25, 2018, 10:36 PM)Markus Wrote:
(May 25, 2018, 09:17 PM)Gungranny Wrote: @Markus 

This isn’t about a specific system. You need to answer those questions with your own idea. This suggestion is for the concept or idea that people DO want sole sort of restricted government.

You +Support if you think restrictions are necessary and even can describe your version of the government restrictions.

You -Support if you don’t like the idea of us restricting government, no matter how it is done.

I want it to be implemented, but I don't know if it will be a good system.
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May 26, 2018, 01:15 AM
+support for cadet system

Easy, add another job and change hour limits and restrict cadet's weapons. Done.
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#25
May 26, 2018, 03:39 AM
+Support

At the moment there's nothing stopping someone going police and arrest literally everyone they see because "arrests are IC"
I've encountered awful police acting and roleplaying more than I can count. Arresting you for even the smallest thing, and searching your residence without a shred of evidence with minimal to non-existent repercussions because, once again, 
"arrests are IC".
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