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ZooM's Unban Request
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#31
May 11, 2018, 08:13 PM
(May 11, 2018, 02:15 PM)ZooM Wrote:
(May 8, 2018, 08:56 PM)Stell90 Wrote: -snip-

~0:20

He had a gun pointed at me but didn't give me any orders. But when the other cop told me to jump out of the vehicle I did follow that order.
Upon listening again to the clip I can't hear him telling you any orders. So I'll disregard this point.

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]At ~0:33[/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]I didn't know I was under FearRP as I didn't see the cop infront of the car. But when I did, I jumped out of the vehicle.
You just said in your last point you jumped out straight away, it took you a good 20 seconds to comply with the officer, which is way too long. You should be complying within 5 seconds at most.
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Adding a new point now,

At 0:50 it took you a while to get on the ground when you got out of the RV when asked. Whilst, disscussing something with your mates on discord.


[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]At 1:16[/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]This is what I didn't know. As I said, I knew that the moment someone shoots at you, FearRP no longer applies. But I didn't know that there was a specific timespan that FearRP didn't apply but that it came back later on. The reason I didn't know this was because it didn't say anything about that in the rules.[/font][/font]
Taking your word for it.

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]From 1:16-36[/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]We were talking out of character. We were talking about if FearRP didn't apply anymore after you get shot. Nothing to do with our ingame characters.[/font][/font][/font]
Taking your word for it.

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]2:29[/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]Didn't see that. My bad.[/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]3:00[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]The SSA was handcuffed (not me), thus posing no threat. Doesn't matter if he was aggressive, he can no longer do anything.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]3:29[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]I didn't know what he said, but I managed to figure out that he was saying something about me moving to the vehicle. And so I did.
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To me it is clear what he said from the point 3:18, what he is saying. Suggestion for next time is to not talk on 3rd party and listen to the cops, so you don't get yourself in a situation like this.

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]3:56[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]This isn't me. But he just asked what car he should go to, which might be obvious.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]At some point you mentioned how they had no reason to arrest you. But, due to you ramming vehicles and risking officers and the public's lives. I can see a valid reason for them doing so. You could also argue that you are corrupt as you are failing to respond to orders.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]Something can be wrong with my vehicle. It doesn't mean that I have intended to ram vehicles. The situation wasn't handled very well by the police officers imo.[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font]
You nearly killed officers, personally I feel that they handed this situation well by most of the officers. But, you are intitailed to your own opinion in this matter.
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#32
May 11, 2018, 08:33 PM
@Stell90, two officers were hit and injured by the ramming of the vehicle as opposed to "nearly" injured.
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#33
May 11, 2018, 09:03 PM
(May 11, 2018, 08:33 PM)Cole_ Wrote: @Stell90, two officers were hit and injured by the ramming of the vehicle as opposed to "nearly" injured.

Ah okay, thank you very much.
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#34
May 12, 2018, 05:32 PM
So, to summarise. This is what I am banned for.

1. I didn't know I was under FearRP as I didn't see the cop infront of the car. But when I did, I jumped out of the vehicle.
You just said in your last point you jumped out straight away, it took you a good 20 seconds to comply with the officer, which is way too long. You should be complying within 5 seconds at most.

and

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]2. I didn't know what he said, but I managed to figure out that he was saying something about me moving to the vehicle. And so I did.
[b]To me it is clear what he said from the point 3:18, what he is saying. Suggestion for next time is to not talk on 3rd party and listen to the cops, so you don't get yourself in a situation like this.[/b][/font]


[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][b]1. [/b]I agree that it did take too long for me to jump out of the vehicle. But that doesn't change the fact that I actually did jump out and the roleplay was able to continue without any issues.[/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]2. This is my fault. But it wasn't intended. He said something that I didn't understand right away. "Move to the ??? of the vehicle". After a good 8 seconds I did as ordered. As you said before, it shouldn't take more than 5 seconds, but come on, this was only 3 seconds more, and the roleplay was able to continue.[/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]I just want to say that im sorry for prolonging to obey orders under FearRP. But I also want to say that I did obey orders under FearRP, but it just took a bit longer. As you can see, this is a pretty mild case and I apologise for taking up your time. I wish I can get back playing, and I promise that I won't go longer than 5 seconds to obey orders under FearRP in the future.[/font]
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2018, 05:33 PM by ZooM. Edited 2 times in total.)
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#35
May 18, 2018, 10:02 AM
Unban appeal denied.

As pointed out in an unapproved post, FearRP was applied to you from the very start. See image below.

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Unpausing the video at the timestamp marked can reveal further to what the arrows are pointing out if it's not clear enough. Both after an independent review by myself and speaking through with Stell about it, we've reached the same conclusion that a rule was broken, and thus your last chance was enforced. I noticed you brought up how it wasn't visible, however an internal note was placed on your last ban to show this, and this was also confirmed by Nacreas, following a conversation I had with him prior to this ban being issued.

Whilst we feel that a rule was broken, we would be more than happy to re-review our decision in 3 months, when you next have the opportunity to appeal.

Thank you.
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