[Soviethooves]

Reported Players: Boshine (STEAM_0:1:79627037)  (@'Boshine')
Server: Rockford
Time: 2018-May-14 18:00
Summary: Problem with target acquisition.

Boshine and the Blood Hand members believed we were backup units for a shootout on them earlier. However it looked like this, all responding officers were gathered around a White truck with bodybags in it, which became our primary target. One officer accidentally passed the truck and stopped in front of the Blood Hand members, who immediately put him under fearp, tranqued him, and then killed the unarmed officer. They claim it was because we were aiming guns at them, but we were focused on the white truck driver (Who's job had no relation to the gang). They then began to tranq and kill us and their excuse was that we were the threat, even though the only people to start the transgression was the Blood Hand gang through not evaluating their situation correctly.

I believe this is a case of RDM as they had no valid reason to kill a hostaged officer or any of us as we were NOT involved with them until they took a cop hostage.
Evidence: PM from Boshine IG

v2b    [208:56]    Boshine    (STEAM_0:1:79627037)    said "/pm gun There was a raid and u was a backupp unit, you had guns drawn, I tranq you then shot you? What the problem lol. There's staff online use @"

Sadly I have no footage of the incident, but I believe Boshine and his members will be truthful in this PR.

[bananen_ephihal]

Involved.

It is correct that we took one of the officers under FearRP. We had recently been raided by the police and swat so we where cleaning up the police car's around our house to take them away when the officer [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came toward us. 

The only reason I executed him in the end is because he didn't follow our orders to get back in his car and leave the area. Insted he started to shout to me, that he was going to do an PR and that he didn't care and that he was recording. [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb was being a threat to us when he didn't follow our orders under gunpoint and therefor he was executed.

I sadly Have no video recording of the incident but I hope the officer have it.

I also wan't to point out that [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came back later and I was going to give him his car back and had him under fear rp and I told him that he could take his car and leave. Insted he takes out a weapon and kills me. This is the second time he broke fear RP, and the first time resultet in him not following our orders and being executed.

I belive it's the fault of the officer that approached us and not following our orders to leave the area in his car.

[Soviethooves]

Involved.

It is correct that we took one of the officers under FearRP. We had recently been raided by the police and swat so we where cleaning up the police car's around our house to take them away when the officer [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came toward us. 

The only reason I executed him in the end is because he didn't follow our orders to get back in his car and leave the area. Insted he started to shout to me, that he was going to do an PR and that he didn't care and that he was recording. [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb was being a threat to us when he didn't follow our orders under gunpoint and therefor he was executed.

I sadly Have no video recording of the incident but I hope the officer have it.

He was still an unarmed threat. He was no threat to you or others as he had his hands up and at any point you could've just high tailed it out of the area. Instead, you chose to tranq and kill him.

I also wan't to point out that [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came back later and I was going to give him his car back and had him under fear rp and I told him that he could take his car and leave. Insted he takes out a weapon and kills me. This is the second time he broke fear RP, and the first time resultet in him not following our orders and being executed.

If you go evidence, please put that in a PR. This is about you, not SkillzModzFb. I'm not encouraging what he did, but let's keep on topic with this PR.

I belive it's the fault of the officer that approached us and not following our orders to leave the area in his car.

I don't believe it is his fault. If you guys didn't immediately pull weapons onto an officer who wasn't able to get out of his car until you ordered him out, then this wouldn't have escalated. Another issue is that, before he was tranqued, I was attacked while I was near the White Dodge Outdoorsman. I hadn't even noticed you armed with an officer under gunpoint until I looked beyond our detained suspect and saw 2 Blood Hand members with rifles firing at me. I then passed out behind the Dodge and got executed.

How can you blame killing 3+ cops on a situation your group escalated by taking an officer under gunpoint?

[bananen_ephihal]

Involved.

It is correct that we took one of the officers under FearRP. We had recently been raided by the police and swat so we where cleaning up the police car's around our house to take them away when the officer [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came toward us. 

The only reason I executed him in the end is because he didn't follow our orders to get back in his car and leave the area. Insted he started to shout to me, that he was going to do an PR and that he didn't care and that he was recording. [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb was being a threat to us when he didn't follow our orders under gunpoint and therefor he was executed.

I sadly Have no video recording of the incident but I hope the officer have it.

He was still an unarmed threat. He was no threat to you or others as he had his hands up and at any point you could've just high tailed it out of the area. Instead, you chose to tranq and kill him.

I also wan't to point out that [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came back later and I was going to give him his car back and had him under fear rp and I told him that he could take his car and leave. Insted he takes out a weapon and kills me. This is the second time he broke fear RP, and the first time resultet in him not following our orders and being executed.

If you go evidence, please put that in a PR. This is about you, not SkillzModzFb. I'm not encouraging what he did, but let's keep on topic with this PR.

I belive it's the fault of the officer that approached us and not following our orders to leave the area in his car.

I don't believe it is his fault. If you guys didn't immediately pull weapons onto an officer who wasn't able to get out of his car until you ordered him out, then this wouldn't have escalated. Another issue is that, before he was tranqued, I was attacked while I was near the White Dodge Outdoorsman. I hadn't even noticed you armed with an officer under gunpoint until I looked beyond our detained suspect and saw 2 Blood Hand members with rifles firing at me. I then passed out behind the Dodge and got executed.

How can you blame killing 3+ cops on a situation your group escalated by taking an officer under gunpoint?

The situation really escalated and this was not our intention. We where simply trying to remove all police car's from the area after a recent raid and when the officer approached us he had seen what we done, and the weapons we where using. We where still on high alert from the raid and everyone that approached us could be a potential danger or backup from the gov force.

 We told the officer that came to us to get back in his car and leave the area, but he failed to do that.

I have no Idea why you guys where attacked before we got the officer that approached us.

[Soviethooves]

Involved.

It is correct that we took one of the officers under FearRP. We had recently been raided by the police and swat so we where cleaning up the police car's around our house to take them away when the officer [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came toward us. 

The only reason I executed him in the end is because he didn't follow our orders to get back in his car and leave the area. Insted he started to shout to me, that he was going to do an PR and that he didn't care and that he was recording. [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb was being a threat to us when he didn't follow our orders under gunpoint and therefor he was executed.

I sadly Have no video recording of the incident but I hope the officer have it.

He was still an unarmed threat. He was no threat to you or others as he had his hands up and at any point you could've just high tailed it out of the area. Instead, you chose to tranq and kill him.

I also wan't to point out that [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came back later and I was going to give him his car back and had him under fear rp and I told him that he could take his car and leave. Insted he takes out a weapon and kills me. This is the second time he broke fear RP, and the first time resultet in him not following our orders and being executed.

If you go evidence, please put that in a PR. This is about you, not SkillzModzFb. I'm not encouraging what he did, but let's keep on topic with this PR.

I belive it's the fault of the officer that approached us and not following our orders to leave the area in his car.

I don't believe it is his fault. If you guys didn't immediately pull weapons onto an officer who wasn't able to get out of his car until you ordered him out, then this wouldn't have escalated. Another issue is that, before he was tranqued, I was attacked while I was near the White Dodge Outdoorsman. I hadn't even noticed you armed with an officer under gunpoint until I looked beyond our detained suspect and saw 2 Blood Hand members with rifles firing at me. I then passed out behind the Dodge and got executed.

How can you blame killing 3+ cops on a situation your group escalated by taking an officer under gunpoint?

The situation really escalated and this was not our intention. We where simply trying to remove all police car's from the area after a recent raid and when the officer approached us he had seen what we done, and the weapons we where using. We where still on high alert from the raid and everyone that approached us could be a potential danger or backup from the gov force.

 We told the officer that came to us to get back in his car and leave the area, but he failed to do that.

I have no Idea why you guys where attacked before we got the officer that approached us.

In that case i thank you for your input and would like to see Boshine make a statement about the situation.

[ToiletWater]

I'm currently busy and cannot replace a full response because I'm revising for my exam tomorrow when I get home at 3 PM I will, however. I will give a short and simple summery for the time being, as bananen said we hostaged the cop in order to stop him calling backup, I then looked over to you and the police sgt by the truck, I failed to see the guy with you and assumed due to this situation that just occurred you were here to either, A) Deal with the hostage or B) Continue the raid, instead of taking my chances I thought quick on my feet and tranqed you, there would be no point keeping you both as hostages judging that you have seen our faces, locations, cars etc and could simply relay infomation and once again launch a raid. However just to re-iterate the main point, we were on high alert after that raid and was trying to clear evidence (Moving cars, hiding body bags etc) then you show up as we take a hostage, we had reason to believe you were back up.

As I said I will explain in further detail tomorrow afternoon.

[SkillzModzFb]

Involved.

It is correct that we took one of the officers under FearRP. We had recently been raided by the police and swat so we where cleaning up the police car's around our house to take them away when the officer [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came toward us. 

The only reason I executed him in the end is because he didn't follow our orders to get back in his car and leave the area. Insted he started to shout to me, that he was going to do an PR and that he didn't care and that he was recording. [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb was being a threat to us when he didn't follow our orders under gunpoint and therefor he was executed.

I sadly Have no video recording of the incident but I hope the officer have it.

I also wan't to point out that [L²:RP]SkillzModzFb came back later and I was going to give him his car back and had him under fear rp and I told him that he could take his car and leave. Insted he takes out a weapon and kills me. This is the second time he broke fear RP, and the first time resultet in him not following our orders and being executed.

I belive it's the fault of the officer that approached us and not following our orders to leave the area in his car.

What happened was i turned up on scene to what was the after effect of the situation and you and your little salty mate demanded me out the car for no reason, then i comply with all your orders and tranc me for no reason. Then after the fact of tranc me for no reason, i said i was making a report on you both, which i admit i took it ooc (Spoke to Bambo in game). But then you both shot and killed me for no valid reason at all. It was 1. uncessary and 2.No valid reason at that time given. 
Also i did not turn up two times at all, as you can't prove it, it did not happen. But the first time arriving on scene you tranc and then both killed me, even though i was following orders.

Also the swearing (Because of my anger issues) and other talking in the video is while i was in discord at the time it was happening. You can ask LONEWOLFGAMER6 as proof also

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[ToiletWater]

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What happened was i turned up on scene to what was the after effect of the situation and you and your little salty mate demanded me out the car for no reason, then i comply with all your orders and tranc me for no reason. Then after the fact of tranc me for no reason, i said i was making a report on you both, which i admit i took it ooc (Spoke to Bambo in game). But then you both shot and killed me for no valid reason at all. It was 1. uncessary and 2.No valid reason at that time given. 
Also i did not turn up two times at all, as you can't prove it, it did not happen. But the first time arriving on scene you tranc and then both killed me, even though i was following orders.

Also the swearing (Because of my anger issues) and other talking in the video is while i was in discord at the time it was happening. You can ask LONEWOLFGAMER6 as proof also

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Throughout the whole event, you broke fear rp however, I will save that for a different time, you say "I was following orders" but in the video, towards the end, you say "I'm not going to follow your orders" which could suggest lying in the courthouse. But are you able to show the full uncut video? The bit with your breaking fear rp? To my knowledge, you're supposed to show a full uncut version 

I may also add, we gave you multiple chances to leave the area however you failed to do so, you would have been a liability if we let you go, you could simply tell the rest of the force what has happened and once again raid us. However, I believe I've justified this case accordingly and will leave it to staff to decide on a final outcome.

[SkillzModzFb]

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What happened was i turned up on scene to what was the after effect of the situation and you and your little salty mate demanded me out the car for no reason, then i comply with all your orders and tranc me for no reason. Then after the fact of tranc me for no reason, i said i was making a report on you both, which i admit i took it ooc (Spoke to Bambo in game). But then you both shot and killed me for no valid reason at all. It was 1. uncessary and 2.No valid reason at that time given. 
Also i did not turn up two times at all, as you can't prove it, it did not happen. But the first time arriving on scene you tranc and then both killed me, even though i was following orders.

Also the swearing (Because of my anger issues) and other talking in the video is while i was in discord at the time it was happening. You can ask LONEWOLFGAMER6 as proof also

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Throughout the whole event, you broke fear rp however, I will save that for a different time, you say "I was following orders" but in the video, towards the end, you say "I'm not going to follow your orders" which could suggest lying in the courthouse.  however, I believe I've justified this case accordingly and will leave it to staff to decide on a final outcome.
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Yh i said i wont follow your orders cos it was a bullshit reason to tranc me or kill me simple as that !

[Soviethooves]

Although it was kind of a BS situation, you have to follow Fearp either way. The best thing to do in that scenario is just to comply and gather evidence for later.

Also @"Boshine" may I ask, if you had no intention of killing the hostage, why shoot us to further provoke the situation? We had barely noticed you until you shot us.

nvm misread.

[Jen]

Involved
(Was unable to deal with the situation at that moment in time)

I was starting a traffic stop on a grey Prius in the area, then seconds later out of the corner of my eye in ravine I saw someone with a sniper rifle, in which I ran away into cover. I was questioning myself at the time what, did I do wrong.

Then I got shot several times by all 3 of you.

I had no intention to raid you or cause any harm towards you, I was just pulling the Prius over for running a single stop sign and wasn't even going to receive a ticket for it.

[Soviethooves]

Can vouch for stell. He had other matters to attend to and told me he wouldn’t be able to get to the report at the time.

[ToiletWater]

The situation with @"Stell90"  was way before any of this happened. Stell what happened to you was a different situation to this.

And if I remember correctly, you were aiming weapons at @Fealz so we planned to tranq you to protect a member, however, you saw me in the ravine with the tranq so you opened fire on me which lead to your death.

[bananen_ephihal]

Involved
(Was unable to deal with the situation at that moment in time)

I was starting a traffic stop on a grey Prius in the area, then seconds later out of the corner of my eye in ravine I saw someone with a sniper rifle, in which I ran away into cover. I was questioning myself at the time what, did I do wrong.

Then I got shot several times by all 3 of you.

I had no intention to raid you or cause any harm towards you, I was just pulling the Prius over for running a single stop sign and wasn't even going to receive a ticket for it.

From what I remember, we talked in the radio with each other, and @"Stell90" pulls over the car with one of our members in it. I got told that you where pointing a weapon and attempting to arrest one of our members. So I think it was @"Boshine" that was with the tranq or sniper while I came back behind you in the water.

It was also just a few feet or meters away from our house where we where holding atm.

I don't remember exactly who did what and who where driving the prius.

[Jen]

The situation with @"Stell90"  was way before any of this happened. Stell what happened to you was a different situation to this.

And if I remember correctly, you were aiming weapons at @Fealz so we planned to tranq you to protect a member, however, you saw me in the ravine with the tranq so you opened fire on me which lead to your death.

The reason why cops turned up was because I hit my panic button about 50 times in the space of 30 secs when seeing the sniper.