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Staff Report: Doctor Internet
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#1
Apr 8, 2018, 10:27 PM
Your Steam Name: [FL:RP] Grapefruit

Time/Date: ~ 12:30 6th April 2018

Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:222849592

Name of Staff Member: Doctor Internet

Summary/Details: Doctor Internet, a developer/administrator for Limelight, invalidly tased me when I was standing still on the sidewalk when I was causing no harm or public disturbance. He then used the move body tool to drag me to a building when he had no purpose for and purposefully slammed me against the door. Bearing in mind, by looking at his job title and description, he was not corrupt. He had no reason to tase me, drag me or purposefully kill me with the move body tool.

I had only just joined the server for the first time and had this as my first experience. If I were not playing with friends, I would have left the server and never returned with the mindset that it is unorganized and administered/developed server by inexperienced ‘rolemodels’. This situation was incredibly unprofessional and absolutely appalling to see from someone who is supposed to have an extensive knowledge of the rules and follow/enforce them properly.

If it was an accident, why did he make no attempt to respawn me? Why did he not bring me after I respawned? Why did he at the very least not apologize to me for not only breaking the roleplay, but infringing a rule as an administrator/developer?

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:38 PM
Alright, as the member of staff who attempted to handle your call in-game, I'm gonna preface this by saying that this is a little bit old, a day or two perhaps.

I asked Doc his side of the story so I could handle the situation after asking you for the evidence. You said that it was uploading and that it may be a while, so in the meantime I asked Doc what happened. From how it was explained to me, it seems like this is yet another example of how buggy our body movement system is.

A body will freak out - sometimes excessively so, as you've seen - when being placed down on the ground when close to walls or doors. You can tell that it was accidental as he went "oh shit, fuck" in the video. I don't believe this was intentional, thus I didn't escalate it myself.
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Apr 8, 2018, 10:41 PM
Under investigation.

Waiting for Internet to reply.
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Apr 8, 2018, 10:42 PM
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Apr 8, 2018, 10:45 PM
Are you able to provide video-footage that shows more of the situation before you got tazed?

The more context I have, the merrier.
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Apr 8, 2018, 11:21 PM
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Apr 8, 2018, 11:30 PM
If you could just show a few minutes before the tazing so I can get a feel for the situation then that'd be great.

I'll wait for Internet to answer the questions you've raised, and then we'll get this thread sorted when it's time. 
I'm not concerned about the date of when this took place, so that's not a thing for anyone to focus on really.
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Apr 9, 2018, 08:37 AM
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Apr 9, 2018, 05:52 PM
Good Afternoon,

Doctor Internet Wrote:Once again, I had repeatedly told you to move away.

Are you standing by that statement that you made in regards to you 'repeatedly telling me to move away'?
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#10
Apr 9, 2018, 05:54 PM
(Apr 9, 2018, 05:52 PM)Grapefruit Wrote: Good Afternoon,

Doctor Internet Wrote:Once again, I had repeatedly told you to move away.

Are you standing by that statement that you made in regards to you 'repeatedly telling me to move away'?

Yes? I had told you to move away.
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Apr 9, 2018, 06:41 PM
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Apr 9, 2018, 06:55 PM
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#13
Apr 9, 2018, 11:24 PM
Good evening,

Doctor Internet Wrote:At 0:20 seconds, you are told to "go stand inside or something."
Why on Earth would I want to stand inside a building with armed people of which I have no affiliation with? Is that not FailRP? However, you being an officer, I listened to your command and went inside anyway. However, I shortly left as there was both nothing for me to do and I wanted to explore the map, having only just joined the server for the first time. Regardless, there was no reason at all for you to request me to stand inside the building nor was there to tase me and attempt to drag me inside.

Doctor Internet Wrote:You're were stood in the middle of what could turn into an armed shoot-out, as a citizen.
I was not aware of a 'shoot-out' that could have happened. Was there a shoot-out? Was anyone being threatened to be killed? Not to my knowledge. All the videos shows during the situation is us, peacefully standing together in a public area and you randomly tasing me slamming me into a door. I was brand new to the server and sought help in a peaceful, public area; in return I was received with unnecessary verbal abuse, an invalid and corrupt tase, followed with an abuse of the move body tool by being slammed into a door. All of this being recieved by an 'experienced' administrator/developer.

I am both distraught and appalled by the behavior, maliciousness, and rule-infringement committed by Doctor Internet, an 'experienced' administrator/developer on Limelight. This situation occurred literally minutes after joining the server for the first time, and to my surprise, I was exposed to toxic behaviors, attitudes and rule-infringements not by a minge; but an 'experienced elder' who has been picked and trusted to enforce, develop, and administrate for Limelight.

Thank you and have a nice night,
Grapefruit.
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#14
Apr 12, 2018, 02:11 AM
Reviewed and concluded.

So the main issues in this case were:

1. The tazing where player Grapefruit was tazed without posing as a direct threat.
2. The accidental killing of Grapefruit while ragdolled
3. The staff member in question failing to clean up the accident by teleporting back the player and apologizing.


1. It seems to have been In-Character. I personally find the tazing to be excessive but not abuse-worthy as a staff member, more as an abusive action as a Police Officer if anything. I would personally have given more clear orders and detained you if you were a problem. I don't view really view this as an administrative error, however.
2. The accused staff member should have shown more care when carrying Grapefruit to relocate him. 
3. The accused staff member should have realized that he should have fixed this issue by bringing back the player and apologizing for the accident and inconvenience. The staff member in question should have shown more care and will to fix the issue that arose. 

The accused staff-member has answered the questions and points in a way I find to be satisfactory and I believe he has explained and apologized for his behaviour in this case. Clearly, this shouldn't have happened. I believe that Internet has realized how he should have treated the situation, and I'm confident he'll show more care in the future. 

The concernings points, in this case, have been raised, discussed and addressed. 
I've spoken to the accused staff member about this situation.

It's unfortunate that this was how your first time on Limelight was, and I hope you'll have a better time next time you play on our servers if you choose to do so. We apologize for the inconvenience. 

Reviewed and concluded. 
Thank you for your report, and for bringing it to our attention. Complaints like this help us improve. Hopefully, we'll do better.
Sincerely, Enzyme
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