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[L²:RP][F.I] ForceGhost
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:05 PM
Name of Player: [L²:RP][F.I] ForceGhost
SteamID: [font=Menlo, Monaco, Consolas,]STEAM_0:1:8701341[/font]
Server: Rockford_v2b
Time: (In UTC+0) 2:13 PM
Summary: 
[font=Lato, sans-serif]3.5 - Custom job titles must state what character you intend to roleplay, and you must roleplay the chosen job accurately (e.g do not RP as a  secret agent when your job is set to Chef) [/font]
3.5a- Custom jobs using /job must be made so they maintain the job's original purpose, unless originally in the "citizen" job. e.g SS agents always protect the president, paramedics always provide emergency medical assistance, gun dealers always provide firearms and ammunition. 
With 400+ hours and 5 REPs I'd expect a better understanding of the rules.
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:05 PM
Thank you for your player-report, Welker.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed by our staff-members.
Meanwhile, the accused player and witnesses may reply to this report.
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:14 PM
I was a Citizen, as at the time I wasn't a BMD as I wasn't selling goods. Just because I'm a BMD does that mean I'm no longer a Citizen of Rockford? I was citizen for about 60 seconds then updated my job title when I got set up.

Total time with Citizen job around 60 seconds? I was trying to make my mind up what title to set, which the logs will reflect, as then I changed to "Kellco Goods Company" and "Kellco Logisitcs Company" while trying to find a fitting job title for the RP.

I don't see the issue here..
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:20 PM
(Oct 28, 2017, 06:14 PM)ForceGhost Wrote: I was a Citizen, as at the time I wasn't a BMD as I wasn't selling goods. Just because I'm a BMD does that mean I'm no longer a Citizen of Rockford? I was citizen for about 60 seconds then updated my job title when I got set up.

Total time with Citizen job around 60 seconds?

I don't see the issue here..
Just because it was "around 60 seconds" doesn't mean the rule was not broken. Rules are rules. And I'm unfamiliar with the rule that states there's a time frame in which a rule is officially broken.
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:24 PM
Do you have any evidence to show malicious intent or any actions being taken that would go against the job slot itself?

A single picture of a scoreboard with no context does not really show intent, meaning or if anything was actually done wrong?
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:34 PM
(Oct 28, 2017, 06:05 PM)Welker Wrote: [font=Lato, sans-serif]3.5 - Custom job titles must state what character you intend to roleplay, and you must roleplay the chosen job accurately (e.g do not RP as a  secret agent when your job is set to Chef) [/font]
3.5a- Custom jobs using /job must be made so they maintain the job's original purpose, unless originally in the "citizen" job. e.g SS agents always protect the president, paramedics always provide emergency medical assistance, gun dealers always provide firearms and ammunition. 
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Perhaps you misread my report.

It's just awfully convenient there's 4 other pending player reports without any staff interaction but this one just had to be you. The one who chose to review four out the past eighty player reports. Nonetheless, must be a coincidence. 


I request another staff member review this due to the clan relations to the accused party, so as to avoid a biased judgement.
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Oct 28, 2017, 06:41 PM
Your current report does not show malicious intent, actions that would harm other players, nor context.

Players have changed the BMD job slot into 100% legitimate and legal buisnesses before, acted as bartenders while selling goods from a back room or running flower shops.

Without context one cannot determine of the job change itself was done to cause harm, with malicious intent, or was a midterm name change before it changed to another.

Do you have anymore evidence to show further context?
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Nov 5, 2017, 04:48 PM
Is there anything else that anyone wants to add before this case is reviewed and concluded?

24 hour deadline given.
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-Not involved. Warned.-
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#10
Nov 9, 2017, 01:45 AM
Reviewed and concluded. 

After an internal discussion we've found that the accused player was in violation of rule 3.5 and 3.5a. We don't feel that this offense was serious enough to warrant a punishment but we need to point out that the accused claim of only maintaining this job for one minute to be incorrect as logs show that this took place for 12 minutes.

The logs also show that the accused player changed his job after tying someone up and reporting them to the Police, possibly to avoid getting in trouble with Police by tying someone up in a questionable situation at a questionable location. The logs don't prove that this was a malicious attempt at breaking the rules by powergaming but it remains a concern. 

Some of the statements from the accused player don't add up with what the logs say, and this raises concerns. 

While we don't feel that the actions might not be directly malicious, rules are still rules and we find them to be broken in this case. Statements also don't add up which is why a verbal warning on the forum will be issued.

The player is advised from committing the same actions again, as it's considered to be against the rules.
Sincerely, Enzyme
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