[Quest]

Your Name: Quest

Issued by: Please include the [L²]/[L²:M] tag. [font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][L²:M] Toxic[/font]

Blacklist ID: [font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]72615
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Server: CityRP2

Why should you be unblacklisted?:  Because I thought it was allowed, considering my pr on minecraft kid for ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME THING! Got denied. Staff members can't make their mind up; if you're gonna blacklist me, blacklist all of them! He also teleported me into a sit just after and mentioned non of this! I then left because I thought I was in the clear but quite obviously not!  

Evidence:
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Almost exactly the same Scenario apart from ONE is denied. I understand the rules of fearp but when I'm told from one admin it's ago and one mod that it's not that what am I supposed to do? I am absolutely furious at Toxic and how unprofessional he was as he teleported me into a sit once for something he could have pmed me about and then after that he blacklisted me when he could have spoke to me about "Fearp" when he first spoke to me in a sit. I think some of the SA's should review Toxic's behaviour as in my opinion he is very aggressive in comparison to most of the other staff members

[Limelight Gaming]

The staff-members have received your unblacklist-request, Quest.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.

[Raptor]

The player report that was denied by me was denied because you reported him for "break checking"

And considering he did it once and not a lot of times I said it's not a big deal and nothing to be punished for, this case is different, it's not the same. You were blacklisted for FearRP not anything to do with break checking. Which is your report.

There is no comparison between the pr I denied and thus unblacklist request.

/phone

[Quest]

The player report that was denied by me was denied because you reported him for "break checking"

And considering he did it once and not a lot of times I said it's not a big deal and nothing to be punished for, this case is different, it's not the same. You were blacklisted for FearRP not anything to do with break checking. Which is your report.

There is no comparison between the pr I denied and thus unblacklist request.

/phone

"then they jump in the car once I swing the arrest baton" I clearly said it in the PR description and it's clearly visible at the end of the video, if I get a blacklist I want him to get the same.

I also want to situation added to the "FearRP Rules" because the rule can be seen as VERY, VERY MISLEADING TO PLAYERS 

2.1 - You are considered to be under FearRP when you are in line of sight of a visibly armed person, who is within microphone range of you 
and is able to harm your character at that moment. You must act afraid of armed people and life-threatening situations. You must follow the 
orders of the person(s) who have you under FearRP, you may not draw a weapon on them, attack them, or run away from them. FearRP applies 
to melee weapons if you are within striking range, but not if you are in a vehicle. You are not under FearRP if you are also visibly armed. 
Visibly armed in the context of this rule means that you have your weapon out and in your hands, regardless of safety mode. You are not 
considered visibly armed when you are seated in a vehicle, regardless of whether you are holding a weapon in hand or not. 

[Raptor]

you still didn't mention FearRP so really I wasn't looking for it, I know that I should've kept my eyes open for any rule-breakage but this isn't an excuse.

Just because "someone else did it" doesn't make it ok for you to do it, I denied the PR for the reason you said which was break checking and not the FearRP part

[Quest]

you still didn't mention FearRP so really I wasn't looking for it, I know that I should've kept my eyes open for any rule-breakage but this isn't an excuse.

Just because "someone else did it" doesn't make it ok for you to do it, I denied the PR for the reason you said which was break checking and not the FearRP part

I mentioned clearly that they "then they jump in the car once I swing the arrest baton" I didn't know it was breaking fearRP I just knew it was some sort of rule break but then it got denied so I assumed it wasn't against the rules.

[Toxic]

It's a violation of FearRP to flee from a police officer when they switch from their gun to their handcuffs in order to detain you, which is what you did, and what I blacklisted you for. It has always been against FearRP rules to do as such, and I haven't changed the way that I handle violations of FearRP. As a more seasoned player the reasonable expectation is that you are familiar with the rules, and from what I read here you acted based off of an assumption that what you did was okay, rather than asking the staff members that were online at the time.

[Quest]

It's a violation of FearRP to flee from a police officer when they switch from their gun to their handcuffs in order to detain you, which is what you did, and what I blacklisted you for. It has always been against FearRP rules to do as such, and I haven't changed the way that I handle violations of FearRP. As a more seasoned player the reasonable expectation is that you are familiar with the rules, and from what I read here you acted based off of an assumption that what you did was okay, rather than asking the staff members that were online at the time.

Then why isn't it listed in the rules? If it isn't listed in the rules how are people supposed to find out?

[Toxic]

It's been in the rules since the beginning of Limelight, but was accidentally left out of the ruleset when the rule page was rewritten recently. I think you've been a part of Limelight long enough to know that FearRP has always applied when a police officer switches from his gun to his handcuffs. You broke FearRP by fleeing as soon as he switched. Until the rule is rewritten to include this, I will reclass it as FailRP, as being in such close proximity, there is no way he would allow you to simply to open your door, get back inside of your vehicle, and drive away as he was standing less than a foot away from you as he was switching over to his handcuffs.

[Quest]

It's been in the rules since the beginning of Limelight, but was accidentally left out of the ruleset when the rule page was rewritten recently. I think you've been a part of Limelight long enough to know that FearRP has always applied when a police officer switches from his gun to his handcuffs. You broke FearRP by fleeing as soon as he switched. Until the rule is rewritten to include this, I will reclass it as FailRP, as being in such close proximity, there is no way he would allow you to simply to open your door, get back inside of your vehicle, and drive away as he was standing less than a foot away from you as he was switching over to his handcuffs.

Yeah but I've only recently just got into doing aggressive rp's. I've never had to fully understand the fearp rule due to me never actually wanting to do aggressive rp until now. If it's not in the rules then how is it a rule? You can't just be making things up that aren't in the rules.....    Also I've never actually seen a situation like this until I made a pr on minecraft kid about it and it got denied so I assumed it was totally fine. I also would like to ask why you didn't speak to me the first time you spoke to me; you never actually asked me any questions it was just a straight up blacklist. Also if it was removed from the rules I assumed it wouldn't be a rule anymore.

[Toxic]

As I just finished explaining, the handcuffing amendment was mistakenly left out once 2.1 was rewritten, though still FailRP. I don't have an obligation to speak to someone after i see them breaking the rules. I seem to recall you not being present when i made my decision. The fact came up afterwords once I spoke to another staff member that was watching. The fact of the matter would be that it was FailRP to get in your car and drive away after A) you were under gunpoint B) and in the process of being handcuffed from a police officer who C) was standing directly next to you while doing this. You have been banned for FearRP in the past, so I would have imagined that you were more familiar with it. You're expected to know all of the rules, not particular sections.

[Quest]

As I just finished explaining, the handcuffing amendment was mistakenly left out once 2.1 was rewritten, though still FailRP. I don't have an obligation to speak to someone after i see them breaking the rules. I seem to recall you not being present when i made my decision. The fact came up afterwords once I spoke to another staff member that was watching. The fact of the matter would be that it was FailRP to get in your car and drive away after A) you were under gunpoint B) and in the process of being handcuffed from a police officer who C) was standing directly next to you while doing this. You have been banned for FearRP in the past, so I would have imagined that you were more familiar with it. You're expected to know all of the rules, not particular sections.

Well considering this isn’t even in the rules and please don’t refer to something that happened almost 2 years ago when I first joined the server and didn’t understand the basics. I don’t care if the rule was “left out” if it’s not there toxic, it’s not a rule.

[Toxic]

Got a ways to go until March of 2018. It happened, so you should be more than familiar with the rule, and in this instance due to the mishap with the draft of the rules page it'll be classed under FailRP, as I've already established. Is there anything else you care to add?

[Quest]

Got a ways to go until March of 2018. It happened, so you should be more than familiar with the rule, and in this instance due to the mishap with the draft of the rules page it'll be classed under FailRP, as I've already established. Is there anything else you care to add?

Yeah why am I blacklisted for it and punished when minecraft kid did exactly the same thing and the pr got denied? That’s the only reason why I did it.

[Quest]

I’d also like an investigation to be opened by one of the SA’s about your aggressive behaviour to people who aren’t your “friends”