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#16
Jun 10, 2017, 09:59 PM
Also, I may be wrong, but I have a suspicion that you guys were only doing said actions against us because of this PR. Especially as you started about the time of this report.
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#17
Jun 10, 2017, 10:03 PM
We never said corruption isn't allowed, our point is that you cant just go and say "President make a law against masks please" to arrest two people you had a grudge against for no clear in character reason.
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#18
Jun 10, 2017, 10:06 PM
Also if your corrupt your job must (As far as I know) state something like "Corrupt Police Officer" instead of "Police Officer" as if you are still in job terms a normal police officer you police according to the law and don't break it like you were doing.
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#19
Jun 10, 2017, 10:06 PM
(Jun 10, 2017, 09:57 PM)Vimpto Wrote: we where not told to get out but you simply told us to get out wallet, not to stay still or anything and your guns where pointing down

we had you out of the car and asked for ID. You said it was in the glove box so we let you get in and get it out. I put spikes once front of your car, and sour and i both had guns pointed down. Thanks  for admitting to break the rule because FearRP applies even when the gun is pointed down it is still an immediate danger
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Jun 10, 2017, 10:06 PM
we where not told to do anything but to get the wallet we weren't told to stay still + on the ingame server rules menu thewre is no rule stating im under fearrp if your gun is down
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Jun 10, 2017, 10:08 PM
You had not threatened us with it before, and so fearrp does not apply. Also your a police officer so its not like your going to suddenly shoot me like that (You are not a rampaging criminal with a gun).The spike strip does not make a difference, so why mention it?
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Jun 10, 2017, 10:12 PM
add the fact we got the wallet and then drove off you never gave us a command or anything - ill be adding evidence of this as soon as possible (may be tommorow)
Oliver asked if he could get his wallet you just said yes, this means no command was given
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Jun 10, 2017, 10:34 PM
(Jun 10, 2017, 10:08 PM)Oliver Burke Wrote: You had not threatened us with it before, and so fearrp does not apply. Also your a police officer so its not like your going to suddenly shoot me like that (You are not a rampaging criminal with a gun).The spike strip does not make a difference, so why mention it?

If you say that we were corrupt and were fearing us, then how can you assume that we wouldn't suddenly shoot you like that?
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Jun 10, 2017, 10:35 PM
(Jun 10, 2017, 10:12 PM)Vimpto Wrote: add the fact we got the wallet and then drove off you never gave us a command or anything - ill be adding evidence of this as soon as possible (may be tommorow)
Oliver asked if he could get his wallet you just said yes, this means no command was given

You think me placing a spike strip and standing in front of your car with a shotgun lowered means you can leave? We asked you to grab your wallet, not back into our car and drive away. Use common sense
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Jun 10, 2017, 10:39 PM
We assumed this as, since your corrupt I don't think you'd want to use unauthorised use of deadly force on a main road where lots of people are, as it would get you into a lot of trouble.
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#26
Jun 10, 2017, 10:40 PM
The point is you asked us to "Grab the wallet" and we grabbed the wallet. You didn't say (As far as I remember) "Grab your wallet and DO NOT MOVE OR I will put bullets into you".
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Jun 11, 2017, 10:05 AM
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#28
Jun 11, 2017, 10:16 AM
the chat with enzyme is unrelated
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Jun 11, 2017, 08:01 PM
Quote:2.1 You must follow FearRP – Your character must act afraid of life-threatening situations or of any visibly armed people. You must follow orders of visibly armed people as long as they are able to harm your character at that moment. You cannot draw a weapon while you are in their line of sight and within effective firing range. The only exception to this is if you are also visibly armed. (Visibly armed = holding a weapon in hand, regardless of safety mode). 

Yes the rules do say that a gun pointing downwards is FearRP (bold). Rules also say that while under FearRP you may not try to escape from the person who has you under FearRP. So you broke FearRP and they were in the right to shoot at you.

In regards to the laws, just asking for laws to change is fine, asking for laws to change and then immediately arresting someone as soon as the law comes out may be considered FailRP/Powergaming.

@SourLemon did you end up arresting them for wearing masks?
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Jun 11, 2017, 08:06 PM
They didnt they ran off and went to speed around
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