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PR | [KG:M] Constrictor & Faustin
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:04 PM
Player Report @"Constrictor" & @"Faustin" 


Name of Player: [KG:M] Constrictor | Faustin

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Server: V4b1 main Server

Time: (In UTC+0) 16:49

Summary: Baiting police | Making adverts to get raided by police | Doomforting

There were several adverts from @"Constrictor" & @"Faustin"  about them selling drugs. They did not even put "anonymous" into their adverts, so the police was able to read them. As we arrived at the warehouse one of them adverted "Ooh, seems the piggies are interested in some coke now". They clearly baited us. They literally called us.

As we had the warrant we went inside and 2 of us got directly shot. There was only a small chance to get up the ladder, because they could easily shot us there.

Evidence:
Advert 1
Advert 2
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(This post was last modified: Feb 4, 2017, 07:29 PM by Nudel. Edited 1 time in total. Edit Reason: Adding Faustin to PR on behalf of Constrictor. )
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:04 PM
Thank you for your player-report, Nudelsalat im Panzer.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed by our staff-members.
Meanwhile, the accused player and witnesses may reply to this report.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:11 PM
Why are you saying both of us, if you're only reporting me?

Yes, I made an advert, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it being drugs. As you can see by my advert, I said 'Flower pots' and 'Flower seeds.' The advert tells people that I'm not selling weed, I'm just selling flower pots and flower seeds. How do you know that it's weed?

Also, how would you know that I'm a gang member without meta-gaming by using the TAB bar?

I did not build any of the base, so I am not involved in the doom-forting. All I did was defend it.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:12 PM
As you can see the advert for coke was not made by constrictor, he only said he was selling flower pots unless you meta gamed to check if he was a gang member not a florist how would you know?
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:13 PM
I also did not build the base (apart from one ramp at the top floor to first floor) and I was on top floor the whole time.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:19 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:11 PM)Constrictor Wrote: Why are you saying both of us, if you're only reporting me?
Dont know why this is relevant.

Yes, I made an advert, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it being drugs. As you can see by my advert, I said 'Flower pots' and 'Flower seeds.' The advert tells people that I'm not selling weed, I'm just selling flower pots and flower seeds. How do you know that it's weed?
The advert above. "Coke" is cocaine. And ofcourse we know that you dont sell "flower pots & plants" to make a garden beautiful when you live in a warehouse  Wink

Also, how would you know that I'm a gang member without meta-gaming by using the TAB bar?
Where did I said youre a gang member?

I did not build any of the base, so I am not involved in the doom-forting. All I did was defend it.
Youre still a part of it. You are defending a doomfort.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:20 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:12 PM)Tomamelon Wrote: As you can see the advert for coke was not made by constrictor, he only said he was selling flower pots unless you meta gamed to check if he was a gang member not a florist how would you know?
All the adverts included "come to industrial warehouse". So ofcourse the people who send it are a gang/team.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:20 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:13 PM)Tomamelon Wrote: I also did not build the base (apart from one ramp at the top floor to first floor) and I was on top floor the whole time.
As said above, youre still a part of it and you are defending it.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:24 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:19 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:11 PM)Constrictor Wrote: Why are you saying both of us, if you're only reporting me?
Dont know why this is relevant.

You targeted it at me, but you're also accusing other players.


Yes, I made an advert, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it being drugs. As you can see by my advert, I said 'Flower pots' and 'Flower seeds.' The advert tells people that I'm not selling weed, I'm just selling flower pots and flower seeds. How do you know that it's weed?
The advert above. "Coke" is cocaine. And ofcourse we know that you dont sell "flower pots & plants" to make a garden beautiful when you live in a warehouse  Wink

I didn't make an advert about 'Coke' so that is not relevant to this report. Also, how do you know that? We could be growing flowers within the premises.

Also, how would you know that I'm a gang member without meta-gaming by using the TAB bar?
Where did I said youre a gang member?

When you showed the tab menu, you were trying to prove something, and I assumed it was that I was a gang member.



I did not build any of the base, so I am not involved in the doom-forting. All I did was defend it.

I defended myself, seeing as you fired the initial shot. I even surrendered but one of the cops shot me...
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:27 PM
Exactly it could have been a greenhouse for all you know.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:31 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:24 PM)Constrictor Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:19 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:11 PM)Constrictor Wrote: Why are you saying both of us, if you're only reporting me?
Dont know why this is relevant.
You targeted it at me, but you're also accusing other players.
-Still dont know why this is relevant. I got evidence against you, not against any other one. I dont have any screens of e.g. @Tomamelon beeing a part of the raid, so I cant PR him.


Yes, I made an advert, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it being drugs. As you can see by my advert, I said 'Flower pots' and 'Flower seeds.' The advert tells people that I'm not selling weed, I'm just selling flower pots and flower seeds. How do you know that it's weed?
The advert above. "Coke" is cocaine. And ofcourse we know that you dont sell "flower pots & plants" to make a garden beautiful when you live in a warehouse.
I didn't make an advert about 'Coke' so that is not relevant to this report. Also, how do you know that? We could be growing flowers within the premises.
-One of your "members" did the advert about the coke. Your advert included the SAME location as the "coke advert".


Also, how would you know that I'm a gang member without meta-gaming by using the TAB bar?
Where did I said youre a gang member?
When you showed the tab menu, you were trying to prove something, and I assumed it was that I was a gang member.
-Nope. Just for administrators to show which ID you had and that you were online.


I did not build any of the base, so I am not involved in the doom-forting. All I did was defend it.
I defended myself, seeing as you fired the initial shot. I even surrendered but one of the cops shot me...
-The first shot was from your side. A straight AWP shot into my head. Logs can proof this.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:34 PM
1. I fail to see how this base is a doomfort, we could clearly shoot you and you could clearly shoot us, hence why you eventually won the raid.

2. I also fail to see how we were "baiting" you, at the time myself, Constrictor and Tom were  genuinely selling drugs as can be seen below.

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Feb 4, 2017, 06:34 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:31 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:24 PM)Constrictor Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:19 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:11 PM)Constrictor Wrote: Why are you saying both of us, if you're only reporting me?
Dont know why this is relevant.
You targeted it at me, but you're also accusing other players.
-Still dont know why this is relevant. I got my evidence against you. I dont have any screens of @Tomamelon beeing a part of the raid, so I cant PR him.
Logs will show that he was part of the raid.


Yes, I made an advert, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it being drugs. As you can see by my advert, I said 'Flower pots' and 'Flower seeds.' The advert tells people that I'm not selling weed, I'm just selling flower pots and flower seeds. How do you know that it's weed?
The advert above. "Coke" is cocaine. And ofcourse we know that you dont sell "flower pots & plants" to make a garden beautiful when you live in a warehouse.
I didn't make an advert about 'Coke' so that is not relevant to this report. Also, how do you know that? We could be growing flowers within the premises.
-One of your "members" did the advert about the coke. Your advert included the SAME location as the "coke advert".
I have nothing to do with the coke advert.


Also, how would you know that I'm a gang member without meta-gaming by using the TAB bar?
Where did I said youre a gang member?
When you showed the tab menu, you were trying to prove something, and I assumed it was that I was a gang member.
-Nope. Just for administrators to show which ID you had and that you were online.
Okay.


I did not build any of the base, so I am not involved in the doom-forting. All I did was defend it.
I defended myself, seeing as you fired the initial shot. I even surrendered but one of the cops shot me...
-The first shot was from your side. A straight AWP shot into my head. Logs can proof this.
I didn't shoot you.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:35 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:32 PM)Faustin Wrote: 1. I fail to see how that base is a doom fort, you could clearly shoot us and we could clearly shoot you, as was proved when you eventually won the raid.
You builded your covers around the ladder. As I said above, we had a low change of getting up there alive. At the end 4 of us died, including me.

2. We did not bait you we were genuinely selling drugs. As can be seen by the image below:
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(Blue: Proof of intent to Deal)
You still baited us with tons of adverts. There was no effort in them like "anonymous". You knew that the police saw them. You even told us your location. You could have written into the adverts "call me" or something else, but NOT your exact location.
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Feb 4, 2017, 06:39 PM
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:34 PM)Constrictor Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:31 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:24 PM)Constrictor Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:19 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:11 PM)Constrictor Wrote: Why are you saying both of us, if you're only reporting me?
Dont know why this is relevant.
You targeted it at me, but you're also accusing other players.
-Still dont know why this is relevant. I got my evidence against you. I dont have any screens of @Tomamelon beeing a part of the raid, so I cant PR him.


Yes, I made an advert, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it being drugs. As you can see by my advert, I said 'Flower pots' and 'Flower seeds.' The advert tells people that I'm not selling weed, I'm just selling flower pots and flower seeds. How do you know that it's weed?
The advert above. "Coke" is cocaine. And ofcourse we know that you dont sell "flower pots & plants" to make a garden beautiful when you live in a warehouse.
I didn't make an advert about 'Coke' so that is not relevant to this report. Also, how do you know that? We could be growing flowers within the premises.
-One of your "members" did the advert about the coke. Your advert included the SAME location as the "coke advert".
I have nothing to do with the coke advert.
And at what stage in time is coke automatically cocaine? How did you know we weren't a warehouse producing Coca-Cola? And do not say "why were you also producing flower pots". Many warehouses are often split between small companies who are in no way related.


Also, how would you know that I'm a gang member without meta-gaming by using the TAB bar?
Where did I said youre a gang member?
When you showed the tab menu, you were trying to prove something, and I assumed it was that I was a gang member.
-Nope. Just for administrators to show which ID you had and that you were online.
Okay.


I did not build any of the base, so I am not involved in the doom-forting. All I did was defend it.
I defended myself, seeing as you fired the initial shot. I even surrendered but one of the cops shot me...
-The first shot was from your side. A straight AWP shot into my head. Logs can proof this.
I didn't shoot you.
I did.

(Feb 4, 2017, 06:35 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Feb 4, 2017, 06:32 PM)Faustin Wrote: 1. I fail to see how that base is a doom fort, you could clearly shoot us and we could clearly shoot you, as was proved when you eventually won the raid.
You builded your covers around the ladder. As I said above, we had a low change of getting up there alive. At the end 4 of us died, including me.
Raiding Rule 1: Defending is always easier than attacking.

2. We did not bait you we were genuinely selling drugs. As can be seen by the image below:
(Red: Proof of Deal)
(Blue: Proof of intent to Deal)
I dont see any image.
Refresh.
You still baited us with tons of adverts. There was no effort in them like "anonymous". You knew that the police saw them. You even told us your location. You could have written into the adverts "call me" or something else, but NOT your exact location.
If we were making "Coca-Cola" why would we need to be discrete? Making it discrete makes is a thousand times more blatant your up to no good.

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