[Nev]

Apparently The Rock is going and declining a large number of suggestions due to them not being active suggestions and having constant feedback. The question should really be why the Development Team isn't making a response to these. No offense to The Rock, but you're not a coder and therefore 99% of these suggestions don't fall in your jurisdiction and therefore I don't fully understand why you're going on and declining all of them. This is a small, Garry's mod role play community, do you really think people have the time and effort to repost the same suggestions over and over? Most of them have had enough voice behind them to push them forward, but have fallen victim to your decline spree in attempts at making things "organized" but really, there is no need for that. Those suggestions are there so that they CAN be bumped and brought back. I hope the Development Team / Staff actually reverses these actions and goes through each one and sorts it out with actual decisions on the strong suggestions rather than a copy and pasted decline message. People put effort into these suggestions, and leaving feedback, why don't you all put effort into actually reading them and hearing community input and not just declining all of them because people couldn't be asked to waste their time keeping a suggestion thread active

[Project]

In my opinion suggestions should had been bumped in a way were they would give people 1 week to vote 50 suggestions. In less than a month we would be done with the old ones. Maybe to clear up the suggestion sub-froum we should get a new one called "Voting this week", so it would be obvious which ones are to be decided. I believe so many suggestions were denied with some having quite a few votes on them.

[Hans]

This Suggestion (https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-13404.html) was posted about 1 week ago. In 4 days The Rock reply with: Approved, ill work on it. About 2 hours after that he was done and he said: Its done, just need to pushed live. Problem is not The Rock, problem is that the people are posting sh*ts.

[Project]

This Suggestion (https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-13404.html) was posted about 1 week ago. In 4 days The Rock reply with: Approved, ill work on it. About 2 hours after that he was done and he said: Its done, just need to pushed live. Problem is not The Rock, problem is that the people are posting sh*ts.

Your suggestion was easy to implement and probably required no/few tweaks to implement. My suggestion with 20 replies still got denied even though it was a change to an already existing script that calculates the damage cars receive.

Source: https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9633.html

Side note: This thread should had been on Discussions instead of H&S.

[Hans]

Project


Your suggestion was easy to implement and probably required no/few tweaks to implement. My suggestion with 20 replies still got denied even though it was a change to an already existing script that calculates the damage cars receive.

Source: https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9633.html

The Rock was the 1st who gives you +Support. My suggestion as you can see has only +Support´s. In your suggestion is big discussion. I think min. 80% of comments must be +Support or it will be declined. Thats my opinion.

[Nev]

Project


Your suggestion was easy to implement and probably required no/few tweaks to implement. My suggestion with 20 replies still got denied even though it was a change to an already existing script that calculates the damage cars receive.

Source: https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9633.html

The Rock was the 1st who gives you +Support. My suggestion as you can see has only +Support´s. In your suggestion is big discussion. I think min. 80% of comments must be +Support or it will be declined. Thats my opinion.

That's great but in this case there could have been suggestions with more than 80% +Supports that were declined because no one posted on them recently

[Bambo]

John, it won't do any good calling people's suggestions sh*t. Some people worked hard on those suggestions brainstorming etc. There were many good ones that got declined due to inactivity. Some might have been because the OP didn't want to constantly bump it up.

Also, there were ones that also had all +supports in the comments, which still got denied.

https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-8800.html

 https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-8796.html

https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-9708.html

[Dick]

I actually think it would be ideal to ask for @The Rock to make a post on the topic as it does revolve around him and the reason why he may have done this. It would also give an insider to what is actually going on with the development team and even a notice for older and newer players on the forums.

[The Rock]

Heres my answer to the topic in case:

- Most of suggestions some are uncompatible with other things we have done
- Some are already done in others terms
- Some are left dead in suggestions pages
- Some really didn't had more then 3 or 4 supporters

Atm theres only 2 devs that know coding lua @Burnett and @Voluptious , i basically only know the basic , but theres huge disorganization at the suggestions , i understand that people spend time doing them , but it takes time for us to work on them and before most of them already have almost 1 year , the suggestions simple needs to be cleaned and some would be good to work if had discussion and supporters , people just suggest but then most of them gets hidden in dust and forgotten by all , i cant do anything about that , it basically needs to be organized in order for Dev team can work on them , sorry if u guys got mad but u can always re suggest them , if the rest of staff doesn't agree with me ill reverse all of them again , just want you guys to understand it , key is organization.

[Project]

Heres my answer to the topic in case:

- Most of suggestions some are uncompatible with other things we have done
- Some are already done in others terms
If they were done should they be placed on the finished part of the suggestions subforum? (I may have misunderstood this part.)
- Some are left dead in suggestions pages
Quite a few suggestions were last bumped around about october 2016, but there is still pages of suggestions bumped by soviethooves vote addition from july which are even older than that.
- Some really didn't had more then 3 or 4 supporters
I will quote what I suggested this before: Making a subforum on the suggestions subforum where ~50 suggestions would be put to be voted each week that way in two months we would have gone over most of the old if not all old suggestions.


-snip-


Deleting so many suggestions for being inactive could cause havoc as people would start re-suggesting hiding the current suggestions. I believe there is a far better way to get the subforum organized, we just need to start placing all the old suggestions to a vote and go from there.

And one last thing, you should also take a look on the approved suggestions as some of them are either incompatible with other things you have done or were approved at the start when the subforum had very few suggestions.

[Burnett]

I must agree with TheRock here, It was about time to have suggestions cleaned.
He might should've discussed this first, but I fully understand that move.
Yes it might take a while until certain updates are getting in. We are not forced to release something and that is great. Developers cannot and usually refuse to work under hard pressure. Hard pressure = Hello Bugs. I think I speak for all our developers when I say that this year has been great in terms of development.
We have pushed over 1008 revisions thats about 9265 changes to the gamemode. Beta and services are not even included.
You can see public ones here: https://limelightgaming.net/services/cha...hp?page=28 (walk yourself up to page 1)
While we cannot add every request, we are thankful for every suggestion and bug report. We have shown that we work on suggestions no matter how long it takes. This year we have added stuff that was requested in 2015. Like every project we need to pririotize certain parts in order to keep stuff secured and stable. Yes we have also made mistakes on things. Everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are made to improve and avoid in the future. Please can we also focus on what the server is all about? Roleplay. I don't know who or what has forced us into the "Updates Updates Updates" position, but it is safe to say that this community is not about updates. Roleplay should function without tons of updates.

TL;DR:

- Suggestions need a clean up or atleast re-organizing
- Next time we will discuss this
- 2016 has been a great year for Limelight and Development
- Roleplay is the key

[Night]

Whilst I do appreciate all points given on this thread, perhaps we could have a new sub section added to the suggestions area which could be called something like "Low Input" or similar, so whilst the main area for suggestions would remain organised, we could have the sub section acting like a cold storage almost for those old suggestions.

And say if activity on one of those threads pick up, there's nothing stopping it from being moved back into either the main area or the popular area.

Just my two cents.

[Bambo]

Adding to my previous post;

The suggestion area needed organizing a long time ago. Duplicates and outdated suggestions were too much. Although it would have been nice to check the suggestions and their contents and discuss on it, I guess it got a bit too crowded but maybe it could have been done another way.

Now, I know there are add-ons for MyBB that allow you to move threads which have a certain amount of comments on, perhaps that can be edited and used?

I also like Project's idea, about having a list of suggestions that are to be discussed weekly, that have been there for far too long.

[alan245]

I have make a useless list for rock as most of them are left behind my George which some of them i haven't seen them in game after 1 year,and come back to some recent approved suggestion the one who approved changed in to random and i've never seen George accepting any more suggestion.I don't know is he a dev one year ago but all i said is many left behind project and most of them didn't fit the server after 1 year.I some of them are the same suggestion but being approved which makes the approve section a lot more messy.

One of the extreme is Safira accidentally or what ever moved a suggestion without using teplete into the approved section which makes me confused.(https://limelightgaming.net/forums/thread-4810.html)

I would support Rock spending time into the clearing of suggestion as it took me half an hour just looking through all those approved suggestion while he have to decide and move them,it is even more time consuming than just going through them

[Raptor]

I would like to quickly point out that we the staff here at Limelight fully appreciate all of your suggestions and respect the effort and time you put in them. Worry not, your suggestions are looked at even if we don't post on it.

If you feel as if your suggestion is dead or is dying feel free to bump it every now and then (not too often) to get the attention back on it. Its your responsibility to make sure your suggestion is still alive and not forgotten.