[Catastrophic]

[Jeff Ford]

[Catastrophic]

[Brin.]

Welp, goodbye. You know my comments were jokes right? Mine were always meme-y Sorry if I was part of it xd

[Tom*]

i thought i was very nice today

[Dutch]

Respect Waemon.
SOA salutes you!

[Catastrophic]

Welp, goodbye. You know my comments were jokes right? Mine were always meme-y Sorry if I was part of it xd

i thought i was very nice today

Not because of either of you. <3 Promise. You guys are good guys.

[Gideon]

Bye ;/

Sad to see 2 amazing roleplayers builders leave

D:

[roxas]

As much as I would've wanted to help - but the logs aren't a magical thing that shows everything.

In-Character actions can often be mistaken. Sometimes people feel targeted or unfairly treated even when it's not actually a thing.

It'd be completely different, if there was a specific person constantly harassing you via OOC. I've been called a whore before as well in character when I played a female character. And people on LL do that a lot.
But the situation you described today is something that simply cannot be monitored unless it's - as stated above - obvious OOC harassment.

Regarding the woman thing:
We can tell people to be more polite and to keep their sticks in their pants when talking or referring to a girl, but that's about it.

Rule 1.6 and 1.6.1

You may not be racist, sexist or otherwise discriminatory to players out of character. This behaviour is tolerated in-character however your actions must have context and/or background RP to it.
________

In-character discrimination is allowed only on in-character text chat and in-character voice chat (including both text/voice radios), PMs, signs, notes, and the phonebooth. Presidents may also use broadcast but only if they also have dictator permission. Discrimination is not permitted on other chat or text input including but not limited to: OOC chat, LOOC chat, adverts, character names and descriptions, job names, clan names and ranks, license plates.

[Catastrophic]

As much as I would've wanted to help - but the logs aren't a magical thing that shows everything.

In-Character actions can often be mistaken. Sometimes people feel targeted or unfairly treated even when it's not actually a thing.

It'd be completely different, if there was a specific person constantly harassing you via OOC. I've been called a whore before as well in character when I played a female character. And people on LL do that a lot.
But the situation you described today is something that simply cannot be monitored unless it's - as stated above - obvious OOC harassment.

Regarding the woman thing:
We can tell people to be more polite and to keep their sticks in their pants when talking or referring to a girl, but that's about it.

Rule 1.6 and 1.6.1

You may not be racist, sexist or otherwise discriminatory to players out of character. This behaviour is tolerated in-character however your actions must have context and/or background RP to it.
________

In-character discrimination is allowed only on in-character text chat and in-character voice chat (including both text/voice radios), PMs, signs, notes, and the phonebooth. Presidents may also use broadcast but only if they also have dictator permission. Discrimination is not permitted on other chat or text input including but not limited to: OOC chat, LOOC chat, adverts, character names and descriptions, job names, clan names and ranks, license plates.

I understand staff members cannot perform magic, however it has been the entire experience of LL. Despite there being a rule, it is never followed. I've been harassed more than I've actually done good RP's, and nothing ever stops it. Or even lessens it just a bit.

Like I said, I know you can't perform magic. And I know a lot of the times it is IC. But I hope you understand that it makes my experience terrible, and this is why I'm leaving. 

I've always liked you, and nothing towards you that I'm saying is personal. I just can't take this anymore for the sake of my own sanity.

Edit to add: "your actions must have context and/or background RP to it" - is never the case. That rule is never followed properly, or at all.

[kellekerell]

[Catastrophic]

[Bambo]

I understand your reason to leave, and it is out of our hands sometimes in cases where people say they are being OOC harrassed using IC methods because in the past people tried to use this to get revenge on others. We try to be thorough in investigations in these cases but there is a thin line when it comes to OOC harassment using IC means and it's difficult to tell, sometimes even the players are not sure of the intent.

Our community is not great, people like being edgy, some even bask in annoying others or giving other's a bad time.

We are not lazy, and we do care. We are just not omnipotent enough to see what people's intentions behind their actions are which annoy staff more than they annoy you. I remember spending hours trying to figure out what is happening to reach the best conclusion on a case, I know other staff do the same. If they were lazy, they wouldn't spend their evenings after work on a server where some people just want to make other's lives miserable, including staff's.

Our staff has been on the receiving end of the targetted harassment during their time as a normal player or while staff.
I remember being arrested and held for 20 minutes while others got arrested, which I suspected was because I was staff but you can't prove it unless you get a confession or some how read their mind.

Finally, staff can't do much to change the attitude of the community, we can only talk about it but that's it.

[Catastrophic]

I understand your reason to leave, and it is out of our hands sometimes in cases where people say they are being OOC harrassed using IC methods because in the past people tried to use this to get revenge on others. We try to be thorough in investigations in these cases but there is a thin line when it comes to OOC harassment using IC means and it's difficult to tell, sometimes even the players are not sure of the intent.

Our community is not great, people like being edgy, some even bask in annoying others or giving other's a bad time.

We are not lazy, and we do care. We are just not omnipotent enough to see what people's intentions behind their actions are which annoy staff more than they annoy you. I remember spending hours trying to figure out what is happening to reach the best conclusion on a case, I know other staff do the same. If they were lazy, they wouldn't spend their evenings after work on a server where some people just want to make other's lives miserable, including staff's.

Our staff has been on the receiving end of the targetted harassment during their time as a normal player or while staff.
I remember being arrested and held for 20 minutes while others got arrested, which I suspected was because I was staff but you can't prove it unless you get a confession or some how read their mind.

Finally, staff can't do much to change the attitude of the community, we can only talk about it but that's it.

I didn’t try to call anyone lazy, and if it came off that way, I apologize. 

However it was not difficult to see that I’d be harassed for no reason, considering I was generally a nice person and only played around with people. There was never any background or context as to why I’d be called a whore or a prostitute, among many other things. 

Like I’ve said, I understand there isn’t much to do on your end but it has made my experience absolute shit and I cannot take it anymore. I’ve been wanting to role-play since I’ve been on, and barely have because everyone either wants to agro RP or something similar. I’ve had one person be talked to for harassing me and that was it, despite everyone saying they’d be supportive and they understand what a woman can go through on this server. 

But it seems that nothing will ever change. So this is why I’m leaving. 

Didn’t mean to insult, but I’m just saying what I’ve seen and how I feel.

[roxas]