[richie]

Everyone so petty lmao

someone dont understando

[Soviethooves]

Everyone so petty lmao

someone dont understando

@Noble does.

[Quest]

I like how this entire thread has come full circle and just proves some of the points that @Jokhah made earlier. Taking things as small as a Car Sales RP and say "See!? I'm at a disadvantage to staff and it's unfair. They shouldn't have special permissions or tools." rather than just trying to find new ways to improve their RPs with the tools they have at their disposal. 

Out of all the arguments you could have made or situations you could have pointed out you chose a Car Sales RP and doubled down on it.

I actually made a suggestion to allow staff members to set car spawn limits for players...

It got denied.

[GokuVII]

Ladies and gentlemen, 

I believe that this issue has been addressed many times, we also have come to a point where we discuss things and end up having no results or outcomes.

Can @Temar  , @Enzyme , @Overlewd  and @Faustie  provide their input? We want solutions rather than talking because it is easier said than done!

[Doctor Internet]

Ladies and gentlemen, 

I believe that this issue has been addressed many times, we also have come to a point where we discuss things and end up having no results or outcomes.

Can "Temar"  , "Enzyme" , "Overlewd"  and "Faustie"  provide their input? We want solutions rather than talking because it is easier said than done!

Its popular to discuss the staff and how people believe they are biased, but no one ever talks about the community members and how biased they are.

[Noble]

I like how this entire thread has come full circle and just proves some of the points that @Jokhah made earlier. Taking things as small as a Car Sales RP and say "See!? I'm at a disadvantage to staff and it's unfair. They shouldn't have special permissions or tools." rather than just trying to find new ways to improve their RPs with the tools they have at their disposal. 

Out of all the arguments you could have made or situations you could have pointed out you chose a Car Sales RP and doubled down on it.

I actually made a suggestion to allow staff members to set car spawn limits for players...

It got denied.

Hence why I said to to find ways to improve their RP with the tools they have at their disposal, not request new ones to be added. It was also declined due to community voting, not because of developer intervention.

And even if such a system was added what's to stop players calling admin bias even more for "So and so increased their car limit and not mine because they're biased towards me"?

I've done a car dealer RP with a 40 prop limit and 1 car, I promise it's possible and possible to do it well. The reason staff have the ability is because they're trusted to use it and used infrequently enough that we don't have to worry about more stress on the server. Mind you this is coming from someone who also doesn't have access to this feature (at least not to my knowledge).

[richie]

I like how this entire thread has come full circle and just proves some of the points that @Jokhah made earlier. Taking things as small as a Car Sales RP and say "See!? I'm at a disadvantage to staff and it's unfair. They shouldn't have special permissions or tools." rather than just trying to find new ways to improve their RPs with the tools they have at their disposal. 

Out of all the arguments you could have made or situations you could have pointed out you chose a Car Sales RP and doubled down on it.

I actually made a suggestion to allow staff members to set car spawn limits for players...

It got denied.

Hence why I said to to find ways to improve their RP with the tools they have at their disposal, not request new ones to be added. It was also declined due to community voting, not because of developer intervention.

And even if such a system was added what's to stop players calling admin bias even more for "So and so increased their car limit and not mine because they're biased towards me"?

I've done a car dealer RP with a 40 prop limit, I promise it's possible and possible to do it well. The reason staff have the ability is because they're trusted to use it and used infrequently enough that we don't have to worry about more stress on the server. Mind you this is coming from someone who also doesn't have access to this feature (at least not to my knowledge).

trusted? yeet what ill just bring this picture back

[GokuVII]

Ladies and gentlemen, 

I believe that this issue has been addressed many times, we also have come to a point where we discuss things and end up having no results or outcomes.

Can "Temar"  , "Enzyme" , "Overlewd"  and "Faustie"  provide their input? We want solutions rather than talking because it is easier said than done!

Its popular to discuss the staff and how people believe they are biased, but no one ever talks about the community members and how biased they are.

Let us take myself as an example, if I happen to be partial to some members, staff or which ever the groups are, will it harm the community, as if staff members do that? Of course there will be differences in terms of individual partiality, THEREFORE you as a staff member should be held accountable for your partiality/bias.

@Preditor  has said it, if you cannot fulfill your administrative responsibilities, then simply leave or keep your position as a developer. This will make your life and ours easier.

[Noble]

trusted? yeet what ill just bring this picture back

I didn't say staff was perfect, but they are at least mature and work to include others in their RPs. 

I'd take Blackdog in a flying machine any day over you spawning as many vehicles as you'd like.

[Quest]

@Noble Actually, if you read my suggestion it was for a limit increase of 2 - 5 or something like that, WITH ADMIN APPROVAL.

I only really see Bd include his friends in RP apart from that really sweet office block on the lake and the gun store.

[Noble]

@Noble Actually, if you read my suggestion it was for a limit increase of 2 - 5 or something like that, WITH ADMIN APPROVAL.

Right but it still boils down to that admin approval. Players who don't get the approval to spawn more will say it's admin bias when they're told no and see others who have had that permission before.

[Doctor Internet]

Ladies and gentlemen, 

I believe that this issue has been addressed many times, we also have come to a point where we discuss things and end up having no results or outcomes.

Can "Temar"  , "Enzyme" , "Overlewd"  and "Faustie"  provide their input? We want solutions rather than talking because it is easier said than done!

Its popular to discuss the staff and how people believe they are biased, but no one ever talks about the community members and how biased they are.

Let us take myself as an example, if I happen to be partial to some members, staff or which ever the groups are, will it harm the community, as if staff members do that? Of course there will be differences in terms of individual partiality, THEREFORE you as a staff member should be held accountable for your partiality/bias.

@Preditor  has said it, if you cannot fulfill your administrative responsibilities, then simply leave or keep your position as a developer. This will make your life and ours easier.

That's great.

If you believe that my impartiality has been compromised, or that I am biased, please contact the Human Resources department with any evidence to support your claim.

Also, if you could please not make unsubstantiated insinuations about my impartiality, please and thank you.

[Quest]

@Noble Actually, if you read my suggestion it was for a limit increase of 2 - 5 or something like that, WITH ADMIN APPROVAL.

Right but it still boils down to that admin approval. Players who don't get the approval to spawn more will say it's admin bias when they're told no and see others who have had that permission before.

Well have it down to REPs

[richie]

Let us take myself as an example, if I happen to be partial to some members, staff or which ever the groups are, will it harm the community, as if staff members do that? Of course there will be differences in terms of individual partiality, THEREFORE you as a staff member should be held accountable for your partiality/bias.

@Preditor  has said it, if you cannot fulfill your administrative responsibilities, then simply leave or keep your position as a developer. This will make your life and ours easier.

That's great.

If you believe that my impartiality has been compromised, or that I am biased, please contact the Human Resources department with any evidence to support your claim.

Also, if you could please not make unsubstantiated insinuations about my impartiality, please and thank you.

This is a GMOD community, not fucking oxford, now please use words for us retarded minds

[Quest]

@Doctor Internet I can't understand what you said.