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What are your thoughts about adding a government whitelist to the server?
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Dec 27, 2017, 01:10 AM
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Dec 27, 2017, 01:13 AM
I have been thinking of doing this for another person and I and another 2 chaps got quite far in the 2 days we did it.


However, LL isn't built for it

For its semi-serious role play nature, it will find it hard to do such as not many people will take it seriously.

So let's have a look at what needs to be done for a full whitelist.


A fully dedicated team,
Policies: Ranging from equipment, vehicles, response plans, discipline and loads more,
Divisions: Such as Traffic, SWAT, Patrol, SSA, Drugs and investigation,
Perma laws,


Could it happen? Yes, but it would take a long day for a team of 3 in two days,
Plan what to do,
Make policies,
Create divisions that we wanted,
And had a training program planned out.

Estimation of length? Weeks, Months.
Effort: High
Activity: High, as it is only easily done when you have everyone that plans to do it on and working on their section.

Would I put in the effort, I would. But, the amount of effort that everyone needs to put in, every day is a lot and can be stressful.
Would I recommend LL doing it, Hell yes?



However, the biggest question is:

Is there a team of 10 people that want to put the effort in? If so count me in.

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Dec 27, 2017, 01:48 AM
(Dec 27, 2017, 01:13 AM)Stell90 Wrote: I have been thinking of doing this for another person and I and another 2 chaps got quite far in the 2 days we did it.


However, LL isn't built for it

For its semi-serious role play nature, it will find it hard to do such as not many people will take it seriously.

So let's have a look at what needs to be done for a full whitelist.


A fully dedicated team,
Policies: Ranging from equipment, vehicles, response plans, discipline and loads more,
Divisions: Such as Traffic, SWAT, Patrol, SSA, Drugs and investigation,
Perma laws,



Could it happen? Yes, but it would take a long day for a team of 3 in two days,
Plan what to do,
Make policies,
Create divisions that we wanted,
And had a training program planned out.

Estimation of length? Weeks, Months.
Effort: High
Activity: High, as it is only easily done when you have everyone that plans to do it on and working on their section.

Would I put in the effort, I would. But, the amount of effort that everyone needs to put in, every day is a lot and can be stressful.
Would I recommend LL doing it, Hell yes?



However, the biggest question is:

Is there a team of 10 people that want to put the effort in? If so count me in.

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(Sorry for the squashed images, I'm also not going to display what community it is from)

No divisions. There is no need for them and all it would do is over complicate things. Policies and procedures, maybe. It really all depends on finding the right balance.
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Dec 27, 2017, 01:49 AM
Adding to @Gungranny 2nd opinion

Regarding corruption, well a whole IA department with heads of dept would be needed.

And the lengthy process, tough shit, it is a bit like real life right?
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(Dec 27, 2017, 01:48 AM)Gungranny Wrote:
(Dec 27, 2017, 01:13 AM)Stell90 Wrote: -snip-

No divisions. There is no need for them and all it would do is over complicate things. Policies and procedures, maybe. It really all depends on finding the right balance.

True but certain divisions would be needed, i.e. IA, SWAT and Patrol.
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(Dec 27, 2017, 01:49 AM)Stell90 Wrote: Adding to @Gungranny 2nd opinion

Regarding corruption, well a whole IA department with heads of dept would be needed.

And the lengthy process, tough shit, it is a bit like real life right?

Again, no need to go too complicated. It's already a lengthy process. All we would need is a Chief of the whole PD, and a staff liasion(s) to assist the Chief in applicant approval and helping with the actual running of the PD.
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Dec 27, 2017, 01:52 AM
(Dec 27, 2017, 01:50 AM)Stell90 Wrote:
(Dec 27, 2017, 01:48 AM)Gungranny Wrote:
(Dec 27, 2017, 01:13 AM)Stell90 Wrote: -snip-

No divisions. There is no need for them and all it would do is over complicate things. Policies and procedures, maybe. It really all depends on finding the right balance.

True but certain divisions would be needed, i.e. IA, SWAT and Patrol.

Yes, just those two because they're jobs we already have. We don't need anymore.
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Dec 27, 2017, 02:46 AM
realistically a whitelist wont solve shit because the dickheads that go around random arresting (me) can easily apply and get it
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Dec 27, 2017, 02:51 AM
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:46 AM)Tails Wrote: realistically a whitelist wont solve shit because the dickheads that go around random arresting (me) can easily apply and get it

Realisticly, a whitelist and a well-structured government force would mean internal affairs and supervisors within those units that would be actually capable of doing their job. This would probably also call for a proper correctional system with a legal system to the side of it to prevent such arrests in the first place.

However, whitelist or not, when I roleplay to be a supervisor (or have supervisors under me working as such), we do tend to respond to such calls involving unnecessary traffic stops, detainments, etc. So, if I am ever a supervisor and you have an issue with one of my officers; it won't hurt you to try and call me or one of my supervisors out to the scene.

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Dec 27, 2017, 02:55 AM
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:51 AM)Wesley Lawrence Wrote:
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:46 AM)Tails Wrote: realistically a whitelist wont solve shit because the dickheads that go around random arresting (me) can easily apply and get it

Realisticly, a whitelist and a well-structured government force would mean internal affairs and supervisors within those units that would be actually capable of doing their job. This would probably also call for a proper correctional system with a legal system to the side of it to prevent such arrests in the first place.

However, whitelist or not, when I roleplay to be a supervisor (or have supervisors under me working as such), we do tend to respond to such calls involving unnecessary traffic stops, detainments, etc. So, if I am ever a supervisor and you have an issue with one of my officers; it won't hurt you to try and call me or one of my supervisors out to the scene.

There is like, 3 people who are up to the standard you're describing. Most people come here to have fun, not to pretend to be a cop because they never made it through the academy
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Dec 27, 2017, 03:15 AM
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:46 AM)Tails Wrote: realistically a whitelist wont solve shit because the dickheads that go around random arresting (me) can easily apply and get it

They would also be fairly easy to remove from the whitelist.
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Dec 27, 2017, 01:02 PM
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:55 AM)Tails Wrote:
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:51 AM)Wesley Lawrence Wrote:
(Dec 27, 2017, 02:46 AM)Tails Wrote: realistically a whitelist wont solve shit because the dickheads that go around random arresting (me) can easily apply and get it

Realisticly, a whitelist and a well-structured government force would mean internal affairs and supervisors within those units that would be actually capable of doing their job. This would probably also call for a proper correctional system with a legal system to the side of it to prevent such arrests in the first place.

However, whitelist or not, when I roleplay to be a supervisor (or have supervisors under me working as such), we do tend to respond to such calls involving unnecessary traffic stops, detainments, etc. So, if I am ever a supervisor and you have an issue with one of my officers; it won't hurt you to try and call me or one of my supervisors out to the scene.

There is like, 3 people who are up to the standard you're describing. Most people come here to have fun, not to pretend to be a cop because they never made it through the academy

There are way more than '' like 3 people '' who are up to the standard to be whitelisted as a government worker. Though, it is normal to only have a select group of members fulfilling the spots of supervisors or instructors/FTOs because that is a spot you'd need some experience for.

Who says people that pretend to be a cop (or any role in that case, as I am sure you're not a chef, paramedic, firefighter, shop owner, etc. etc. in real life) aren't doing so to have fun?

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