[BlackDog]

They absolutely have correlation, i never announced it as an event.

It was just there after a rumble, and it was up to the playerbase to decide on what occured next, and depending on how they went about it, and how the roll went, it decided the outcome and what would happen.

At first police discovered it after 10minutes, setup roadblocks, 10-15minutes later LC was hired and brought in to clear the rubble in a very creative way, and two very explosive methods.

In the end it was not an Event, but a fluid RP interaction with a dynamically changing scenario

[Welker]

They absolutely have correlation, i never announced it as an event.
There really is not a correlation, they're completely different dupes. 
It was just there after a rumble, and it was up to the playerbase to decide on what occured next, and depending on how they went about it, and how the roll went, it decided the outcome and what would happen. That's right, however you have made no attempt to roleplay or encourage roleplay for your current dupe, hence it is not an event in anyway and once again they share no correlation because of it.

At first police discovered it after 10minutes, setup roadblocks, 10-15minutes later LC was hired and brought in to clear the rubble in a very creative way, and two very explosive methods. Half correct, the initial mini-event had a good response, that's for sure. But you for some reason feel the need to place this dupe over, and over with complete disregard to the multitude of complaints and absolutely no interest in roleplaying from both you and other players. The dupe has been up for 8 hours according to Goigle, that is excessive. This dupe is not a rockslide.

In the end it was not an Event, but a fluid RP interaction with a dynamically changing scenario
I'd call it a mini-event, but sure.

[Soviethooves]

This was also present today and I didn't see a reason to have it there? It was honestly just in the way instead of adding anything.

[BlackDog]

They absolutely have correlation, i never announced it as an event.
There really is not a correlation, they're completely different dupes. 

(Different dupe, same concept for dynamic and fluidly expanding RP potential)


It was just there after a rumble, and it was up to the playerbase to decide on what occured next, and depending on how they went about it, and how the roll went, it decided the outcome and what would happen.
That's right, however you have made no attempt to roleplay or encourage roleplay for your current dupe, hence it is not an event in anyway and once again they share no correlation because of it.

(This was also the case with the rockslide, I did not tell everyone what was going on outside of a (Rumble) from the road, and it took over 10 minutes for anyone to notice what had occured, the concept is similar for the rockface as it is up to the government to decide what to do, should they even decide to act, in the end it is up to them)



At first police discovered it after 10minutes, setup roadblocks, 10-15minutes later LC was hired and brought in to clear the rubble in a very creative way, and two very explosive methods.
Half correct, the initial mini-event had a good response, that's for sure. But you for some reason feel the need to place this dupe over, and over with complete disregard to the multitude of complaints and absolutely no interest in roleplaying from both you and other players. The dupe has been up for 8 hours according to Goigle, that is excessive. This dupe is not a rockslide.

(I would not call a small grouping of 4-6 people, out of a few hundred a multitude of complaints, more of a select vocal minority with a history of such.

In the end, it is up to players to decide what to do or how they wish to go about it, as has been the case in the majority of all questions brought forward to me about the trees or rocks. From "Can the trees here be removed for this dupe" to "Can i RP cutting those trees down for lumberjack stuff" to the LC being hired to clear a rockslide.

In the end it was all the players who decided how they want these kinds of dynamic situations to go, from rockslides, to fires, from plane crashes on a highway, to Cliffs to dig through or blow up.

Players have the power to RP where it goes, and depending on how the Rolls go, will dictate how it all will fan out.)





In the end it was not an Event, but a fluid RP interaction with a dynamically changing scenario
I'd call it a mini-event, but sure.

(C'est La Vie)

[Soviethooves]

On another note, what happened to the big argument with having big invasive events on the main server that broke up regular RP? Wasn't that a big argument at one point?

[BlackDog]

On another note, what happened to the big argument with having big invasive events on the main server that broke up regular RP? Wasn't that a big argument at one point?

That was in reference to large scale events that we're announced on the prime server, that drew in people from every other aspect of the server RP, police, chefs, GDs, corlones, everyone would drop everything to be apart of that one particular admin hosted event which acted as a detriment to general RP as a whole.

This is the opposite where it is not announced at all, is not really an event, and it is up to those who wish to be creative or start somthing up in relation to a partial map change up.

Kind of like finding a crashed helicopter in the forest, why is it there? 

Well for those who could find it, its up to them to RP to find out.

[Soviethooves]

On another note, what happened to the big argument with having big invasive events on the main server that broke up regular RP? Wasn't that a big argument at one point?

That was in reference to large scale events that we're announced on the prime server, that drew in people from every other aspect of the server RP, police, chefs, GDs, corlones, everyone would drop everything to be apart of that one particular admin hosted event which acted as a detriment to general RP as a whole.

This is the opposite where it is not announced at all, is not really an event, and it is up to those who wish to be creative or start somthing up in relation to a partial map change up.

Kind of like finding a crashed helicopter in the forest, why is it there? 

Well for those who could find it, its up to them to RP to find out.

I think there is a slight difference from a crashed helo in the forest compared to a rock wall that literally blocks a portion of the map. Why is it necessary? Sure, it was fun the first time, but after that it's just a nuisance. You're blocking peoples' plans in that area because you want to see how players handle your roadblock. It's not fun, it's just a barricade at this point.

[Welker]

They absolutely have correlation, i never announced it as an event.
There really is not a correlation, they're completely different dupes. 

(Different dupe, same concept for dynamic and fluidly expanding RP potential)


It was just there after a rumble, and it was up to the playerbase to decide on what occured next, and depending on how they went about it, and how the roll went, it decided the outcome and what would happen.
That's right, however you have made no attempt to roleplay or encourage roleplay for your current dupe, hence it is not an event in anyway and once again they share no correlation because of it.

(This was also the case with the rockslide, I did not tell everyone what was going on outside of a (Rumble) from the road, and it took over 10 minutes for anyone to notice what had occured, the concept is similar for the rockface as it is up to the government to decide what to do, should they even decide to act, in the end it is up to them)

Yes, 10 minutes. 10 minutes and 8 hours are vastly different increments of time, people in FUMUKU seem to suffer time dilation? Seem rather common. Also why do the same roleplay over and over? It's getting excessive. If you actually want to see these 'dynamic'  roleplays, get involved, don't just be phased and expect people to do your roleplaying for you, why you got a REP for placing some rocks and throwing them around is beyond me.

At first police discovered it after 10 minutes, setup roadblocks, 10-15minutes later LC was hired and brought in to clear the rubble in a very creative way, and two very explosive methods.
Half correct, the initial mini-event had a good response, that's for sure. But you for some reason feel the need to place this dupe over, and over with complete disregard to the multitude of complaints and absolutely no interest in roleplaying from both you and other players. The dupe has been up for 8 hours according to Goigle, that is excessive. This dupe is not a rockslide.

(I would not call a small grouping of 4-6 people, out of a few hundred a multitude of complaints, more of a select vocal minority with a history of such.

A gross under-representation, I'd hardly call the majority of OOC being dominated with complaints a minority, but I suppose it doesn't count if you just turn OOC off and bury your head in the sand, right?
 
In the end, it is up to players to decide what to do or how they wish to go about it, as has been the case in the majority of all questions brought forward to me about the trees or rocks. From "Can the trees here be removed for this dupe" to "Can i RP cutting those trees down for lumberjack stuff" to the LC being hired to clear a rockslide.

In the end it was all the players who decided how they want these kinds of dynamic situations to go, from rockslides, to fires, from plane crashes on a highway, to Cliffs to dig through or blow up.

Players have the power to RP where it goes, and depending on how the Rolls go, will dictate how it all will fan out.)
Except this is quite possibly the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard you say, and that's something in itself. I've seen you squash multiple roleplays that involved blocking roads, paths, etc. Yet players have the power to decide how they want dynamic situations? I suppose it's different when you do it. Biased maybe?




In the end it was not an Event, but a fluid RP interaction with a dynamically changing scenario
I'd call it a mini-event, but sure.

(C'est La Vie)
As far as I'm aware LC was not hired, just did it because we can


In conclusion, this bickering is pointless and fails to achieve anything. The fact of the matter is, your dupe is NOT a rockslide, no matter what you claim it to be. You can call a dog turd chocolate but it is still a dog turd. I don't know why you are so unwilling to roleplay with anyone yet you insist people use your dupes that they do not want. You have what, 1600 hours? 4 REPs, I think this reflects on your willingness to roleplay quite neatly. 

[Innovative]

RP Server, chill lads.

Come now let’s have a cigarette and a coffee and relax.

[Dan]

An 'event' was already held with it, and RPPs were already handed out, so why do you need to put it up for hours. Did you not see the large number of people complaining about it? I find it quite ugly and unrealistic. The rocks on the road didn't even look like a 'rockslide' or anything. It was just a perfectly placed rock formation in the middle of the road. How does that make sense? And when will you see a rock-face going straight up surrounding the lake houses. Now they are not even accessible from 76. They are called 'Lake Houses', not 'Cave Houses'.

[SourLemon]

Blackdog was not using the props for a roleplay, they were just there, if there had been something going on with the areas it covered that would be different, but the rocks and tree were just covering the map purely for aesthetic purposes, newsflash, shitty low res trees covering the map don't look good.

[Emc2]

idk why anyone is surprised. Had a player spawned a small prop on a road -even for roleplay reasons - they would've been warned let alone a large structure. But admins can do whatever they want because who can warn them, themselves?

10/10

[Jokhah]

idk why anyone is surprised. Had a player spawned a small prop on a road -even for roleplay reasons - they would've been warned let alone a large structure. But admins can do whatever they want because who can warn them, themselves?

10/10

The HR department, though I've heard that there is a lot of doubt from the community regarding the quality of response to such topics.  That doubt may or may not be backed with any actual fact.  Sometimes the decisions are made and the users do not like them, but that doesn't mean that they were bad decisions.  I'm sure it's more of a case-by-case basis.

Though one tunnel was blocked off, there were still other means of access to those areas.  Not saying it's not an issue, as obviously some people feel there was one.  I'm simply saying that in some aspects this discussion appears more like a chance to take jabs then to voice an actual discussion about the issues presented.

I'm very supportive of the fact that we are able to have this discussion rather than seeing this implode in the form of an abuse thread.  The general point that seems to be made here is that roads shouldn't be blocked outside of an event, which I can agree to, and that if a player had done similar actions he/she would have likely been administratively actioned.  Admins are not regular users, they are trusted enough to perform actions that might be outside of the scope of the rules, however doing so without listening to their voice on the topic isn't the best way to go about it.

I feel that no one should block roads outside of an event.  Even during events, road blocking should be minimal.  I also feel that some of the users whom have discussed privately with me, that their intent is to push this situation till the topic administrator "rage closes the thread," should grow up.

[Night]

It would of been nice to of seem a viable way through, despite the blockage. Perhaps a little tunnel held up by pillars you usually see in a mineshaft sort of environment supported with braces on the ceiling.

[Preditor]

I've seen threads like these pop up all the time, the only thing i'd have to say is just keep it simple guys. I'd say it's okay to do RPs like that as long as they have a means to still get through, as stated earlier have maybe a shaft or scaffold or even just part of the road blocked off, and maybe cones directing around it. You don't have to block off the entire area of the map, there's an event server for that.

It's good that admins like to bring immersive and unique events into regular and repeatable RP days, just as long as it REMAINS OPTIONAL.