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Nov 8, 2017, 07:55 PM
So I didn't join when yall started because of personal issues that I won't go into detail on.  It's old news.

Came back, everything was going well.

Then I found out that you can just set /job "raider" or whatever stupid name criteria you have, and that's all that's required to raid every owned door on the server.

And yall say you're better then dark rp.  I challenge you to explain how, if a job is a reason to do anything.  I find it funny that if you bait a cop into a chase rp, you can be banned, but you can kick in every single door on the server, without knowing anything about what is inside or even the owner, and that is acceptable.

Seriously, I expected much much more than this out of a gamemode that calls itself "City RP 2."  You'd figure that it would have been more of improvement on the original, rather than walking backwards towards dark rp.

Hit me up when raiding requires any actual RP context to be considered acceptable, as in its current state it's pretty unbalanced.

Tired of climbing up from rock bottom, only to get kicked right back down by joe fuckoff whom logged on purely to kick in everyone elses doors without owning one themselves, nor even needing a real reason to go in.

Seriously, what the fuck is that.  Rule 3.1 may as well be removed from the server if job title classifies as a "rp reason" to do anything.

I'll still partake in the shitposting, because now I understand one (of probably dozens of reasons) why people do it.
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Nov 8, 2017, 08:25 PM
Lmao, people break in for $$$ just like most scenarios IRL.
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Nov 8, 2017, 08:25 PM
Well I don't understand why you're going off on the server and gamemode right now.
his job was 'Walker Gang - Criminal'. It's a criminal gang that perform criminal activities, breaking into houses is a criminal activity and therefore his reason to do it is because he's a criminal. that's what he does.


We understand your salt because you lost all your contra, but don't go say the Gamemode and rules are not even better than DarpRP if you don't understand the concept of setting a job either
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Nov 8, 2017, 08:46 PM
bye bye
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Nov 8, 2017, 08:51 PM
Well, sad to hear. Bye and good luck in the future.
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Nov 8, 2017, 08:51 PM
Well aren't you just a bundle of joy, Hope you enjoyed your time here, thanks for the input! Cya.
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Nov 8, 2017, 09:58 PM
Criminals require a background role-play to break into your home, for example an actual pre-established RP and a place to store their goods. If this person did not have either of those, he would be in violation of these rules.

You cannot simply change your job title and break into peoples homes and just because his job-title was Walker Gang - Criminal (Which I believe is in violation of a rule in itself since the Criminal job title is not allowed) he cannot raid solely because he's a part of a gang that has had RP-development in other sessions, however that being said - so long as a background RP is there in-game and well-developed at the time he was playing - There's nothing stopping him from deciding to go on a string of break-ins.

Breaking in to solely destroy contraband as a "Criminal" is far-fetched and I doubt they had a sufficient reason to do that. If they stole it, that's another thing. People don't break into homes to destroy the valuable items (unless this is gang-vs-gang related) so I'd definitely question that if that's what happened.

Your rant solves nothing besides making you look like you're the type to get triggered by a video-game.
Take it to the suggestion forum if you wish to see a change and don't expect people to change the game to your expectation on their own will.
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Nov 8, 2017, 10:53 PM
Actually it was Walker Gang - Member, for the sake of accuracy.

Bye Jokhah.
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Nov 8, 2017, 11:20 PM
(Nov 8, 2017, 08:51 PM)26\ Wrote: Well aren't you just a bundle of joy, Hope you enjoyed your time here, thanks for the input! Cya.

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Nov 9, 2017, 12:16 AM
Bye jokah, only had one interaction but it was good
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(Nov 8, 2017, 08:25 PM)OfficialFriet Wrote: Well I don't understand why you're going off on the server and gamemode right now.
his job was 'Walker Gang - Criminal'. It's a criminal gang that perform criminal activities, breaking into houses is a criminal activity and therefore his reason to do it is because he's a criminal. that's what he does.


We understand your salt because you lost all your contra, but don't go say the Gamemode and rules are not even better than DarpRP if you don't understand the concept of setting a job either
 
When you can raid purely because of your job title, you are exactly the same as Dark RP in that aspect.  You are allowed to raid doors simply because they are owned.  Yet you can be banned for intentionally starting a chase, or even the fact that you can raid ANYONE for money EXCEPT the President player.........

What is the purpose of rule 3.1 if it doesn't apply to requiring an rp reason to kick in doors?  Why even have rule 3.1 at all?  So that you remember to set your job title?

Dark RP is just about raiding, with some fluff jobs to fill the middle, like selling the tools needed to raid, or food to stay alive.  City RP2, all about contra and raiding, with fluff classes to fill the middle.  Should be named Dark RP2, because in City RP, having an RP reason past talking to your self in the mirror is a requirement.

Seriously, when you raid a door that is owned, but haven't seen the owner nor are a cop, wouldn't that be metagaming? No, because criminals can raid whatever they want for any reason, right?
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(Nov 8, 2017, 08:51 PM)26\ Wrote: Well aren't you just a bundle of joy, Hope you enjoyed your time here, thanks for the input! Cya.

Yeah I know.  I'm a ray of sunshine.  Seriously fustrated that I keep losing everything I got, trying to get anywhere, because people can raid for literally just owning a door.  I expected that reasoning would be a requirement.  Nope.  No need to RP on the server anymore, just get guns and set job to asshole, then roll over everyone for teh lulz.

This is part of my healing process.  Give everyone the finger, bitch about what I am salty about, take a break, come back, repeat.

Is what it is.  I don't get mad about everything, just when I get fucked and realize that fucking everyone is the name of the game here.  Like I explained to the staff I talked to about the situation, the only difference between this game and dark rp is that in dark rp, there aren't restrictions applied to the defender.  For instance, when I build a base to defend from raiders, I can be a complete dick about it.   When I came to City RP, I expected that it would be like it used to be, where you needed basic reasons or some logic train.  Ex: I saw him go in and out a few times, when I followed him I noted he kept going to the weed/meth dealer, he probably has contra of some kind or something of value.

I didn't expect it to be as simple as, "Owned door" Raid, when you have rules restricting various aspects of every other job, like how gov need a reason to raid, or how many jobs cannot raid or do specific activity.  The criminals (regardless of what stupid fancy title you apply to it) can do whatever, whenever, for no reason at all.  Can't walk down the street acting like a minge, but I can walk down the street and BE a minge to every owned door except Mr.Presidents.

If I had a clique of friends, survival would be easy.  As I stay to myself, I'll just keep getting fucked over, repeatedly, as has happened every time I've come on at this rate.  I have better odds surviving in Dark RP, where I at least expect that people will do this.

Whats the point of logging on and doing anything if you just get it all taken away by someone who doesn't even set it.

Just salty and logging in just so everyone can just take and destroy my shit isn't enough make me come back.  Sorry.
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(Nov 9, 2017, 12:16 AM)Vimpto Wrote: Bye jokah, only had one interaction but it was good

Guess you got lucky.  I love to roleplay.  I just don't like how the rules make it easy to attack people, but you can't speed around because that's fail rp.  Let that sink in.  Can raid a door because it's owned (metagaming when you haven't seen anyone there, because you aren't raiding the unowned doors, only the owned ones), but you can't have printers as a black market (illegal goods) dealer.  "Oh, BMD's can't farm cause they are dealers, they can't own BMI shops because that's fail, no they have to go way out of their way to create this elaborate front, just so that joe fuckoff can join, equip tools, raid, then leave.  Guess I'm the only one who sees that as unbalanced.
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Nov 9, 2017, 01:59 AM
(Nov 8, 2017, 07:55 PM)Jokhah Wrote: So I didn't join when yall started because of personal issues that I won't go into detail on.  It's old news.

Came back, everything was going well.

Then I found out that you can just set /job "raider" or whatever stupid name criteria you have, and that's all that's required to raid every owned door on the server.

That's always been the case, but now you need a background RP, such as a warehouse to store your stolen goods or a place to hide from the cops (Decorated with props and such)

And yall say you're better then dark rp.  I challenge you to explain how, if a job is a reason to do anything.  I find it funny that if you bait a cop into a chase rp, you can be banned, but you can kick in every single door on the server, without knowing anything about what is inside or even the owner, and that is acceptable.

1. Baiting doesn't have an IC reasoning other than you just want to bother the cops and get in a shootout (Which is ok in some scenarios for say a distraction).

2. As long as you have a place to keep your stolen goods (IC wise as stated above), you can do so. There has been no cracking down on this due to it being a fun factor to most Aggressive RP players.


Seriously, I expected much much more than this out of a gamemode that calls itself "City RP 2."  You'd figure that it would have been more of improvement on the original, rather than walking backwards towards dark rp.

I'm pretty sure on FL you can do the same with a RP Background. At least I was able to last week.

Hit me up when raiding requires any actual RP context to be considered acceptable, as in its current state it's pretty unbalanced.

I think you just want a refund on your stuff and are blowing this out of proportion. Part of the risk on having good being able to be stolen is burglars. You just need some better security.

Tired of climbing up from rock bottom, only to get kicked right back down by joe fuckoff whom logged on purely to kick in everyone elses doors without owning one themselves, nor even needing a real reason to go in.

He had a reason and he did state why he did it. You just don't like the reason.

Seriously, what the fuck is that.  Rule 3.1 may as well be removed from the server if job title classifies as a "rp reason" to do anything.

The job title classify the player raiding you...It gave him permission to have that kind of RP, as job titles are meant to classify your RP Background.

I'll still partake in the shitposting, because now I understand one (of probably dozens of reasons) why people do it.

All in all you are going about this the wrong way and the PR against him you were very immature from my personal standpoint. Rather not have you on the server if you're going to act like that often. Ruins everyone else's time. 

Won't be saying good luck as that entail I want something to happen in your favor, and I won't say bye as you don't actually seem to be leaving. So I'll say, I hope you act more mature about situations not going in your favor next time and understand that the world doesn't revolve around your contraband being burglar proof."
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Nov 9, 2017, 02:02 AM
(Nov 8, 2017, 08:25 PM)Lord Octagon Wrote: Lmao, people break in for $$$ just like most scenarios IRL.

I see you being nice to people on the forums all the time, but when a member leaves on a bad term you won't even include "bye" in your message?

lmao

Bye Jokhah
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