[Invoker]

(No I'm not racist against Muslims, don't shoot that point.)

No need to be afraid, friend, Muslims aren't a race, simply a large group of people who have an outdated, barbaric and logically incoherent set of beliefs which are incompatible with a civilised society.

This is one of the stupidest and most ignorant comments I've seen. The majority of Muslim people aren't trying to chop off my head along with yours. Good luck having this sort of hate in the real world.

The United Kingdom has 

The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in 

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England: 2,660,116 (5.02% of the population). 76,737 Muslims live in 

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Scotland (1.45%), 45,950 in 

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Northern Ireland (0.21%)

 So let's say roughly 3 million muslims.
Statistics:

• 25% of UK mosques have extremist literature calling for the beheading of lapsed Muslims etc.
  

Roughly 750,000

• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
  

Roughly 2,400,000

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
  

Roughly 500,000 according to the 1.2B people in India

• 91 percent of all honor-related killings around the world are carried out by Muslims (84% in US, 96% in Europe).
  

No math needed

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[Murdoch Murdoch]

(No I'm not racist against Muslims, don't shoot that point.)

No need to be afraid, friend, Muslims aren't a race, simply a large group of people who have an outdated, barbaric and logically incoherent set of beliefs which are incompatible with a civilised society.

This is one of the stupidest and most ignorant comments I've seen. The majority of Muslim people aren't trying to chop off my head along with yours. Good luck having this sort of hate in the real world.

The United Kingdom has 

The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in 

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Northern Ireland (0.21%)

 So let's say roughly 3 million muslims.
Statistics:

• 25% of UK mosques have extremist literature calling for the beheading of lapsed Muslims etc.
  

Roughly 750,000

• 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
  

Roughly 2,400,000

• 40% of Indonesian Muslims say they would use violence against those blaspheming Islam.
  

Roughly 500,000 according to the 1.2B people in India

• 91 percent of all honor-related killings around the world are carried out by Muslims (84% in US, 96% in Europe).
  

No math needed

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Oh man, look how ignorant I am for taking into account facts and statistics and not jumping to agreement with your superficial opinion.

[Safira]

Alright, it seems it's come to this. Again.

As someone who lives in a Majority Muslim country, from a 'civilised Western society', I feel my experience may have some sort of value. Please hold off calling me a 'leftist' or 'liberal' simply for having a bit of compassion; how this trait has become an insult I'll never quite know.

Everyone. I mean literally fucking everyone that I've met in this small country where

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78.8% are Muslim do not agree with ISIS. They do not condone ISIS' actions. They do not think that the imposed restrictions on other religions here are fair.

To blatantly say "Muslims aren't a race, simply a large group of people who have an outdated, barbaric and logically incoherent set of beliefs which are incompatible with a civilised society" I feel is incredibly brash and to be honest, a bit offensive (oh no! Here's the special snowflake!). Because yes, whilst I do agree that the fundamental building blocks on which Islam was built - the Quran and 7th century society - have aspects to them that aren't appropriate or acceptable to a contemporary audience, we have to remember who this contemporary audience is.

People are more than capable of educating themselves through the internet and media to decide what values they hold. There's more to their lives than a book. There's school, news, western influence in the form of TV shows and movies
Just like those who consider themselves Christian, who believe that they should "love thy neighbour" but not that gay people should "surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.", there are millions of Muslims who will also follow the 5 pillars of Islam (faith, prayers, charity, the fast during Ramadan, pilgrimage) who live harmoniously with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, and all other religion even though their book states that "[they] cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers".

Because, how many of us whom consider ourselves Christians - if we had to, such as in a census - have read the Bible through and through? I know a couple miracle stories like water-to-wine, the reason behind Christmas/Easter and the Lord's prayer. That's my Christian knowledge done. Yet I was Christened, so... I'm technically a Christian. Just because I now know about the scripture which preaches intolerance for homosexuals, does that mean I'm going to join Westboro Baptist Church? Of course not, because I'm an educated individual capable of making my own decisions.

From this argument then, surely it is plausible that, just as most Hindus know why they celebrate Diwali/Holi and don't eat red meat, not every Muslim reads every passage in every holy book, absorbs it and thinks "you know what, fuck the world".
If we're looking at the same research as given by that video,

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68% of Indonesians - the country with the highest Muslim population globally - do not believe that their country's laws should strictly follow the Quran.

And please, don't come out saying "if they don't follow the passages, they're not real Muslims", because honestly, who are you to say that? To determine who's appropriate for your conception? Is it because they undermine the convenient thought that all 1.6 billion don't fit the image of a knife-wielding, exploding Jihad screaming 'Allah Akbar"? From that, it just looks like you're out to hate, and that's truly saddening.

That's my bit done, ciao.

[Preditor]

I don't hate Islam, there's also violent scripts from the bible. I hate the countries that use it as an excuse to strip rights from people and stone women for ridiculous laws, and who use it to hold pedophiles unaccountable to due process. I don't think the religion is barbaric, I think the people practicing it are, the ones who do as I said above of course.

[Innovative]

The thing that annoys me, is that there's Seriously rich countries, like Saudi Arabia, Dubai, QATAR the list goes on, With such vast amounts of spare land, and the spare funds to facilitate these refugees, why does it not happen, why does everyone rely on the west and then protest if something doesn't go the way they want it to.

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There are 100,000 spare, un-occupied Air conditioned tents, in which could facilitate 3,000,000 refugees in Saudi Arabia 

Now i have no hate toward Islam, i myself have family that are Muslim, but if the religion bases itself on peace, why are Muslims, with the ability to do something about it, allowing other Muslims to suffer. That's just what i don't understand. Saudi Arabia is 2,000 Kilometres away from Syria, The UK Is 5,000 Kilometres Away from Syria.

Another thing, TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT NOW, people need to open their eyes and accept this.

[Venom]

The thing that annoys me, is that there's Seriously rich countries, like Saudi Arabia, Dubai, QATAR the list goes on, With such vast amounts of spare land, and the spare funds to facilitate these refugees, why does it not happen, why does everyone rely on the west and then protest if something doesn't go the way they want it to.

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Now i have no hate toward Islam, i myself have family that are Muslim, but if the religion bases itself on peace, why are Muslims, with the ability to do something about it, allowing other Muslims to suffer. That's just what i don't understand.

Another thing, TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT NOW, people need to open their eyes and accept this.

I agree that those countries should be helping, as I said, it should be a world effort. I also don't think anyone was saying anything in regards to your last line. Yea, Trump is president. That doesn't mean we have to agree with all of his actions.

[Innovative]

The thing that annoys me, is that there's Seriously rich countries, like Saudi Arabia, Dubai, QATAR the list goes on, With such vast amounts of spare land, and the spare funds to facilitate these refugees, why does it not happen, why does everyone rely on the west and then protest if something doesn't go the way they want it to.

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Now i have no hate toward Islam, i myself have family that are Muslim, but if the religion bases itself on peace, why are Muslims, with the ability to do something about it, allowing other Muslims to suffer. That's just what i don't understand.

Another thing, TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT NOW, people need to open their eyes and accept this.

I agree that those countries should be helping, as I said, it should be a world effort. I also don't think anyone was saying anything in regards to your last line. Yea, Trump is president. That doesn't mean we have to agree with all of his actions.

That's true, but people are taking things way out of hand, for example there's a petition in the UK To stop Trump from coming to the UK, It has almost 1,000,000 signatures. I Feel like we should be dealing with it another way, how i have no idea, but protests just lead to violence.

[Venom]

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Now i have no hate toward Islam, i myself have family that are Muslim, but if the religion bases itself on peace, why are Muslims, with the ability to do something about it, allowing other Muslims to suffer. That's just what i don't understand.

Another thing, TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT NOW, people need to open their eyes and accept this.

I agree that those countries should be helping, as I said, it should be a world effort. I also don't think anyone was saying anything in regards to your last line. Yea, Trump is president. That doesn't mean we have to agree with all of his actions.

That's true, but people are taking things way out of hand, for example there's a petition in the UK To stop Trump from coming to the UK, It has almost 1,000,000 signatures. I Feel like we should be dealing with it another way, how i have no idea, but protests just lead to violence.

Oh no doubt. Rioting and shit isn't the answer.

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You're saying it's easy for a terrorist to slip into the US using the refugee program and other programs correct?

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No one has been killed by nationals of those 7 countries since 2001 in any major attacks. This isn't preventing any major terrorist attacks, only preventing people from surviving in their countries. Yes, it's true those countries are war torn. But isn't that why we have refugee programs? For citizens to flee from being bombed and executed? The US hasn't admitted people from those countries that have been a credible threat to national security. If anything, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon, etc should be on that list considering they supplied the 9/11 attackers. Instead of having a blanket ban on those countries and suspending all refugees, along with

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dual citizens, we should keep screening people the way we have been. You can make it a bit tougher if you want, but a ban is no way to do it. We can also look at your map that you provided and see that the

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US has a higher terrorism score than Iran. So should other countries block US citizens from traveling due to us having more terrorism than Iran?

It is easy for a terrorist to slip into the US using the refugee program. ISIS is already doing it to Germany, 

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according to their own intelligence reports. Those countries are war torn, perhaps they should go somewhere else? Like I don't know, Saudi Arabia or anywhere else that is 'civilized' for lack of a better word. Most of the U.S. mass shootings are by domestic Islamic terrorists who are carrying out the Quran to the text, it's not hard to fathom people from those war torn countries you speak of will come and do more than what already has happened. I haven't looked at this map you speak of, but it's honestly not hard to fathom when airplanes were shoved into skyscrapers just 15 years ago, and hundreds have been murdered is the U.S. alone, including the deadliest mass shooting in our history.

I agree, it's truly unfortunate citizens of our country are finding it impossible to get back in this country, and I believe it should be fixed. Those with no citizenship/those claiming refugee status should find somewhere else to go, many of us don't want them here.

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https://thereligionofpeace.com/ go have a read on the religion that wants to behead gay people. Peaceful.

[Burnett]

Lods I am shocked by your comments. You sound so hateful that I don't know how to confront you. Free speech and all that - granted. But defamming an entire religion over Trumps actions? What are you trying to prove with your quotes and cits. You do realize that Islam is the biggest religion out there?

With respect, I highly disagree with what you said in your posts.

I am sorry for you.

[Vimpto]

Americans fault for letting him win

[Trusted]

Wow.... So much racism in this community, thats not cool.

[Innovative]

Wow.... So much racism in this community, thats not cool.

Well, everyone's allowed an opinion.

[Trusted]

Wow.... So much racism in this community, thats not cool.

Well, everyone's allowed an opinion.

Yes, but not racism. Or can I join the game and say to you "hey motherfu" because it's my opinion? You must clearly divide between opinion and racism.

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No one has been killed by nationals of those 7 countries since 2001 in any major attacks. This isn't preventing any major terrorist attacks, only preventing people from surviving in their countries. Yes, it's true those countries are war torn. But isn't that why we have refugee programs? For citizens to flee from being bombed and executed? The US hasn't admitted people from those countries that have been a credible threat to national security. If anything, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon, etc should be on that list considering they supplied the 9/11 attackers. Instead of having a blanket ban on those countries and suspending all refugees, along with

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dual citizens, we should keep screening people the way we have been. You can make it a bit tougher if you want, but a ban is no way to do it. We can also look at your map that you provided and see that the

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US has a higher terrorism score than Iran. So should other countries block US citizens from traveling due to us having more terrorism than Iran?

Most of the U.S. mass shootings are by domestic Islamic terrorists who are carrying out the Quran to the text

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Well, that first part is a flat out lie. The majority of mass shootings are not committed by Muslims. Was

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Dylann Roof a Muslim? Was 

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Micah Johnson,

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Adam Lanza? The list goes on.

Secondly, I'm sure a website named thereligionofpeace isn't going to be the SLIGHTEST bit biased. Getting your facts and views from there doesn't help your case.


Now, back to the OT:

Funny how Saudi Arabia has failed to make the list of banned countries yet 15 of the 19 9/11 hi-jackers were Saudi citizens. Now, why on earth would the US not want to upset Saudi Arabia? Or more worryingly, why doesn't Trump want to upset Saudi Arabia, it's not like he has business interests there at all...