We need to go serious imo. We need to strip almost all of our systems and start fresh. "Serious" does not mean boring, it just means a more realistic game-mode, which contrary to popular belief may make things MORE simple.
Here's what I imagine would be ideal for Limelight:
- A business system where people can create a business and maintain it through a cool system
- A property system where people can teleport (For optimization) to a slummy apartment, nice apartment or house. These will be customized and the player can buy furniture and change wallpapers and all that stuff.
- A nice casino with ACTUAL gambling, slots, poker, blackjack, fun stuff.
- A phone where you can call up your friends and talk, or text them, or call the police, or download apps (This would MASSIVELY reduce / commands)
- A cool-ass custom map with public transportation, a more close feel for better roleplay, maybe a harbor or something dope.
- An optimized server with 100 people all running around roleplaying
- A cool banking system, maybe even a proper heist system
- ACTUAL criminal roleplay system (not contrafarming)
All serious means is less stupidity, not less fun. And from what I've seen, stupidity is shunned from the server already.
Let me set the scene for this future Limelight:
You're sitting on the couch watching a few YouTube videos with friends in your upper-end apartment. You hear a knock on your door, "POLICE" the voice screams. You rush to hide the drugs sitting on your luxury granite counter-tops. "What the fuck" you whisper to your three friends, still idly staring at the TV screen. "They fuckin' busted us" one of your friends whispers back. "POLICE OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR". You hear the police radios buzzing. Shit, shit, shit. You brush your hand against the cold counter-top before reaching quickly for your phone. You fumble, before dialing 432-333-1021. "Shut down the operation, get the drugs out of the storage containers at the harbor and sink them", a man responds confused "Sink... them..?", "YES" you scream into the phone... "Also one last thing, get to the casino and take out Vinny" you grumble. You quickly hang up before throwing the phone on the ground, stomping on it several times. You hear a loud bang on your door, the police rush in.
DOESNT THAT SOUND FUN? AND ITS ALL SERIOUS RP.
(Sep 20, 2017, 06:09 AM)Vatipää Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 10:32 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 09:34 PM)Hungames Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 08:01 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even beat up a suspect in custody as a Corrupt Cop.
They are "resisting". I once beat a prisoner to death with a baton and blackdoggo yelled at the other guy for making a false report
can I have my rank back?
No, regards Enzyme
You are bad boy
*takes out beanbag shotgun*
(Sep 20, 2017, 01:53 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 20, 2017, 06:09 AM)Vatipää Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 10:32 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 09:34 PM)Hungames Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 08:01 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even beat up a suspect in custody as a Corrupt Cop.
They are "resisting". I once beat a prisoner to death with a baton and blackdoggo yelled at the other guy for making a false report
can I have my rank back?
No, regards Enzyme
You are bad boy
*takes out beanbag shotgun*
That was random, me and enzyme were thinking giving you moderator, atleast now we are not giving that for you.
(Sep 19, 2017, 06:50 PM)ExoticHoe Wrote: [ -> ]Keep it as semi-serious RP. Serious is boringggg it's fun to allow some freedom. and getting banned for saying the N word is kewl despite rules contradicting it.
yeah because the 'semi-serious' server we have right now is sooo fun isnt it
I believe roleplay should be taken a lot more serious and the rules could be a bit more strict but not seriousRP
(Sep 19, 2017, 08:01 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even beat up a suspect in custody as a Corrupt Cop.
There's a slight difference between beating someone up and shooting them in public without reason in front of their sergeant...
(Sep 20, 2017, 06:35 PM)LilSnek Wrote: [ -> ]I believe roleplay should be taken a lot more serious and the rules could be a bit more strict but not seriousRP
SeriousRP =/= strict rules.
SeriousRP = Rules are more relaxed allowing for more RP opportunity.
(Sep 20, 2017, 06:41 PM)ExoticHoe Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 19, 2017, 08:01 PM)Soviethooves Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even beat up a suspect in custody as a Corrupt Cop.
There's a slight difference between beating someone up and shooting them in public without reason in front of their sergeant...
It's all in context. I can use a pistol to kill someone or cripple their leg. I can use a beanbag shotgun to knock the wind out of an officer I plan on taking into the back alley. All in context my dude. Tis why this is a RP server.
The way I see this is in very different ways and this is going to probably be a massive paragraph that a few won't read but *shrug* who cares. I have spoken my own opinion about the change and touched on topics people commented on in the last 3 pages.
Before I Start
As it doesn't completely matter but before I say anything, I have experienced all different "types" of roleplay as people would call it. Have been part of many less-than-serious DarkRP servers, Star Wars RP (simply because it was a thing back then) and Zombie RP. I have been part of the Semi-Serious franchise as people seem to call it off that being LimeLight and FearlessRP and many Serious Roleplay Services such as Half-Life 2 Roleplay, Applejack, Fallout Roleplay and Combine Control. I have played in different games with the same kind of Roleplay aspects such as World of Warcraft (which I do to this day) and Minecraft.
I have been a roleplayer for about 10 years (This being on different games and types of RP). I have been with LimeLight/FearlessRP for 5 Years and a Teacher of LimeLight for 1 Year (on 25th September 2017) and I have seen many things and how people think. I have heard what people think about the community and I have agreed and disagreed with a lot of them, even if they may or may not be right
. I have been following SeriousRP (HL2RP, Combine Control and Fallout Roleplay) for 4 years.
The Point of SeriousRP
The way I see it is roleplay that is shown on LimeLight in how the staff wish to enforce it and many of the players is to be at a serious standard which I agree with. RP should be a serious thing rather than anything else otherwise I just see it as something else. I can only compare two RPs together with the non-serious and serious title of being DarkRP and CW:HL2RP. DarkRP is all about what it shows and features simply allowing to show what is going on, compared to CW:HL2RP which is all about the Roleplay aspect than features that is presented. Of course, what falters under the HL2RP community which is why the gamemode is slowly dying are due to the limitations that they have done in the community.
Comparing the differences between LimeLight and any other serious community is what I believe it Attitude. I have seen people try their hardest to simply get the most out of money, etc and don't attempt to RP things out.
set up a SeriousRP Night for the Community after a suggestion, I made with it in the Teacher area. Observing over the RPs that had been around there were a few I was actually impressed with who were doing RP for the sake of RP rather than anything to do with profit, money or anything. They opened up RPs for immersion and joy rather than the Gamemode aspects which are the issues I see if we ever make LimeLight's CityRP into a SeriousRP server. The attitudes of people in the community against RP does stink at times, and it does come around and affects the community as a whole.
During the SeriousRP Night, it was surprising and actually saddening at times, simply due to what people did during this event time. There were people simply driving around in vehicles going about 70MPH down the main road with a few people tailing them which was actually disappointing as sure, maybe one or two vehicles do this in a race or something alike, however, its not. There has actually been a large influx of people actually using the VCMod's Indicator system which is a good thing about LimeLight as people have noticed what other people are going to a more passive standard and it has opened it up. Since Joining LimeLight in 2015, I have noticed a large influx of more PassiveRP being swallowed down into nothing which is actually quite sad. The thoughts of the SeriousRP and PassiveRP Nights have been an improvement in these and I have actually been happy and surprised to see the updates to these changing quite a bit and I hope more people do this in the future.
Administration/Moderation and Rules
Looking towards SeriousRP in rules concept there and what people have said prior to this thread - Rules in SeriousRP Servers are much more flexible than what people think. The only differences being the punishments that are done when breaking the rules is much worse and harsh which is a thing LimeLight is always avoiding as we are all human and make mistakes and the systems comparing between LimeLight and others is major. The administration systems are far more advanced which is why I believe from this context, making LimeLight into a SeriousRP server wouldn't be impossible via the Administration/Moderation or the rules especially with the recent update of LimeLight's rules changing from 173 rules to a whopping 53 rules, which is a large change to LimeLight and the flexibility to roleplay.
It's Semi-SeriousRP, not SeriousRP
Please, no. Systems for Semi-SeriousRP and SeriousRP is zero. You can have a character system on a DARKRP SERVER which I have seen in the past including the Star Wars RP servers for example as you change your name to suit what RP is going on at that moment in time. Whether the server be Semi-Serious or Serious, the systems for the Roleplay would be nothing. Systems are how the Roleplay works and whether that be Serious or Semi-Serious it makes no difference.
New Clothing System
A clothing system is always something I want allowing players to customize their characters with hats, masks, coats, shirts and pants, shoes, etc. Always been a good idea - It has been a feature that I would love and it has been done before on HL2RP servers allowing players to purchase gloves and coats to prevent from features such as temperature and illnesses but as this is a CityRP server, it would simply be to support what you'd want to look like and maybe even features like that which might come in the future
Weapons on Back and Visible Kevlar System
Recently, there have been comments about how the Weapons on the Back system should be removed and to that, I say "No." simply because of the aspect it does open with. You are not going to shove an assault-rifle out of nowhere which I agree to. The system is meant to prevent people carrying high-powered weapons from visible view and making people lure towards the smaller firearms and with the recent new additions from the Control and Chaos Update which introduced a few higher-calibre weapons which can be hidden in someone's body. Melee Weapons are something that I would love being added to this system as I do think having a Baseball bat on your back would be an interesting method of carrying a melee weapon.
With a Visible Kevlar system, I would completely come to support this as it is one of the features I would love to include within LimeLight especially if it comes to the SeriousRP aspect. Whether the different Kevlars being a Lightweight one which is not visible but only prevents 25% damage, the original 50% prevention kevlar but visible to anyone and even changing Ceramic Kevlar to a more advanced thing where leg and arm damage are reduced by 50% instead of 75%. As also commented this should only protect the chest unless its the Ceramic Kevlar which could protect arm and leg damage.
The Community and the "Customers"
talks about trying to get a system and optimized servers with 100 people running around roleplaying, however, I do see a few issues with this which I want to address in my own opinion. Firstly, at this moment in time - We get peaks of 40-50 players on the server around the evening during weekdays and maybe 50-55 on the weekends. It is seen at least what I have noticed that about 70 to 80 percent of the community is based somewhere in Europe especially after analysing player profiles on the server and looking at where people come from via Teamspeak. Player count is going to be an issue for this but I am sure if things turn to a better start then sure - the server is able to improve drastically and maybe we'll get more players into the community. I do not mean to try to sound like we are never going to hit the number however it is defiantly something to target for in the future but at this moment in time, if we are able to populate to 70 or 80 players on the server, then I think targeting the server to 100 would be a great improvement.
The Warrant System
The warrant system has been discussed before by which in all fairness people said they'd love a system where they'd take the prisoner to the jails/prison however they agree that a system that allows people to force someone into a vehicle or drag them would be required to support them in this which I hope and agree will be added to the community as it is a system I would like to do for it.
Property System (Discussed by Vauld) and Banking System
A property system as described by is a good but iffy idea. That idea is excellent and I would love this kind of system, however, I believe it wouldn't be used very easily or even created that well. It would be an interesting thing to view but I don't think for what it is worth that it would turn into a successful part. Investing in require to purchase props for your apartment to make it better is definitely something that would be really good and interesting for the community and allowing for a hideout for a group of friends.
I would love a form of Banking System. It would be interesting to see Bank Robberies which could give the player a percentage of money which would open to more RP also at the time with the Police. A good addition to this would be something that ArcBank does which allows players to store money in the bank to keep it safe. Interest on the money would be a good idea to get something such as 0.6% towards it which would be randomly generated with low interest rates with the banking system would work. It would also be a good idea to have a small amount of money being lost upon dying (this being around $1 to $50) and changes depending on how rich the player actually is. This would be a nice idea to have to allow people to use the banking system and opens more towards this system.
Custom Maps and Optimisation
I think it would be a nice idea as it would allow the community to say what they want however I do think that this might cause issues for those who might recieve issues with the current maps that we have done. That is the only issue I see to it. If this could be done I think it might be a good idea however it has to be something that the community would want such as Rockford and Evocity in which we've had in the past. About the gamemode, it is known and discussed that it is very badly optimised. If we are to wipe the system/code and recreate it to a more organised and optimised version it could take weeks upon months to do due to the systems provided. Sure it would be good however it would have to be something in the long term to do rather than anything instantyl.
Closing Notes and my opinion
I would love the server to be a SeriousRP server. With character creation and allowing players to roleplay themselves or be like what they want with clothing etc, this could allow and open a market for Staff to allow certain pieces of clothing for membership, roles within the community (Staff, Veteran, etc) and so much this system can be vamped up so many times and will make the community happy. Towards how the server would run I don't see much of a difference with the Staff, Moderation/Administration and the rules as I don't see anything of an issue with them compared for upgrade/updating to SeriousRP. The systems provided towards the Weapons and Kevlar is definantly something i'd keep whether Serious or Semi-Serious as it allows roleplay to be processed and people not pulling RPGs out of their ass.
Isn't the server serious already?
I keep getting pulled over for not using the fucking indicators
(Sep 21, 2017, 11:42 AM)Mr.Sir Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the server serious already?
I keep getting pulled over for not using the fucking indicators
I get shot dead for doing 4 over the speed limit
(Sep 21, 2017, 01:28 PM)Klinex Wrote: [ -> ] (Sep 21, 2017, 11:42 AM)Mr.Sir Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the server serious already?
I keep getting pulled over for not using the fucking indicators
I get shot dead for doing 4 over the speed limit
Evidence pl0x? That's against the rules unless you were evading.
This server isn't even rp really anymore its basically woodcutting/police pursuit simulator 2004
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