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Player Report: False Demotion
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Dec 30, 2015, 12:59 AM

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Name of Player: LBJASTFO42512

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:130498036

Server: v33x

Time: 22:50 approx

Summary: To put a long story short without involving a completely different scenario, I was roleplaying as a police officer and had arrested one male who continued to evade me, despite warnings while carrying a weapon he refused to talk about. His two friends were in a vehicle with him, one of which I decided to handcuff to find out the story (why a weapon was being carried, reason for evasion etc.)
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[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]Note at this point I had no intent to arrest either of the two.[/font]
[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]His other friend continues to approach me, shouting abuse both IC and OOCly at me about recording, something or the other and I told him ICly that if he returns, he'll be arrested for Police Obstruction (I could not hear what the detained male was saying over him) and failure to comply. Following five minutes, he did return and was promptly arrested. [/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]It was for arresting this male that I was demoted by [font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]LBJASTFO42512.[/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif][font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]LBJASTFO42512 made no attempt to get my side of the story, to ask any of the police officers there, I can only presume he heard the story from the male I arrested and perhaps his small group of friends without even trying to see why I made these decisions. [/font][/font]

[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]I'd like to add that I don't have any personal vendettas against any of the people involved and have not set out with any intention of having anyone banned, blacklisted or otherwise. I would much rather prefer a genuine apology from [font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]LBJASTFO42512 and hope that he learns from this incident.
Evidence: Chatlogs and other from the situation, including a lack of investigation prior to my demotion:[/font]
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[font=open_sansregular, Arial, sans-serif]https://imgur.com/a/x9xSV[/font]
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Dec 30, 2015, 03:26 AM
I've taken a look through the logs for as much information that I could find, and I do agree with you that the president should have questioned you about the situation before taking action on your demotion.

I do have a few questions however; was Blurr ever arrested? I see multiple PMs to the president informing him that Blurr and another individual had been arrested unjustly but can see clearly you only attempted to make an arrest via warrants and after multiple warnings and explainations (but the president was not responding to yours or other players warrants for an extended period of time).

I'd also like to know who said they were recording these events and would very much like them to post it to get a clearer picture of the situation.
(This post was last modified: Dec 30, 2015, 03:28 AM by Noble.)
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Dec 30, 2015, 03:33 AM
(Dec 30, 2015, 03:26 AM)Noble Wrote: I've taken a look through the logs for as much information that I could find, and I do agree with you that the president should have questioned you about the situation before taking action on your demotion.

I do have a few questions however; was Blurr ever arrested? I see multiple PMs to the president informing him that Blurr and another individual had been arrested unjustly but can see clearly you only attempted to make an arrest via warrants and after multiple warnings and explainations (but the president was not responding to yours or other players warrants for an extended period of time).

I'd also like to know who said they were recording these events and would very much like them to post it to get a clearer picture of the situation.

Hey bud.

Blurr is the person in question regarding Police Obstruction and Failure to Comply. It was his arrest that resulted in my demotion, if that is of any importance to this case.
Blurr, Ranger and Doc claimed to be recording and persisted that I was arresting them under a false premise. I'm used to this however, and just give players a timeout in the handcuffs until they're ready to proceed IC (so the arrest is done correctly IC, of course).

Just to clarify, the Report is on neither of those three, as all they did was make the situation a bit more inconvenient for me and at times a little frustrating. The issue lies solely in my false demotion.

For the purposes of this report, I'd appreciate if you could share the chatlogs that show the private messages between blur and the accused person, ta.
(This post was last modified: Dec 30, 2015, 03:34 AM by Oobrie.)
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Dec 30, 2015, 03:47 AM
The reason I asked about Blurr is because he is the one who was contacting the president about getting you demoted. 



Quote:v33x [23:44:10] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 10 Demote on 32 and 10, arresting men after they said they can go and apparent tresspassing although we did nothing buti
v33x [23:44:21] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 drive along
v33x [23:44:34] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Demote on 32 and 10, arresting men after they said they can go and apparent tresspassing although we did nothing buti
v33x [23:44:36] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 drive along
v33x [23:44:56] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 We didn't intend to do anything the cop has abused his powers.
v33x [23:45:23] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 President?
v33x [23:45:46] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 You can demote Via /Demote (ID E.g 10) (Reason e.g Abuse)
v33x [23:46:54] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 We didn't intend to do anything the cop has abused his powers.
v33x [23:47:05] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Demote on 37 and 10
v33x [23:47:15] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Demote on 32 and 10, arresting men after they said they can go and apparent tresspassing although we did nothing buti
v33x [23:48:38] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 you blind bat! REPLY! HE IS ABUSING HIS COP POWERS.
v33x [23:48:48] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /PM 27 Demote on 32
v33x [23:49:02] LBJASTFO42512 (STEAM_0:0:130498036) said: /pm Blurr demote 32 ok
v33x [23:49:40] LBJASTFO42512 (STEAM_0:0:130498036) said: /pm blurr i cant find a '32'
v33x [23:49:55] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 23 He is called Oobrius
v33x [23:50:04] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 He is called Oobrius
v33x [23:50:17] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /PM 27 He has arrested me for standing near a car.
v33x [23:51:09] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Can you now demote Oobrius aka 32 he arrested my friend randomly me randomly and Doc will soon be arrested


I'd like to see the video(s) they had supposedly recorded to assess their actions in the matter, as theirs was done via voice communication as opposed to typing.
(This post was last modified: Dec 30, 2015, 03:51 AM by Noble.)
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Dec 30, 2015, 04:01 AM
(Dec 30, 2015, 03:47 AM)Noble Wrote: The reason I asked about Blurr is because he is the one who was contacting the president about getting you demoted. 



Quote:v33x [23:44:10] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 10 Demote on 32 and 10, arresting men after they said they can go and apparent tresspassing although we did nothing buti
v33x [23:44:21] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 drive along
v33x [23:44:34] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Demote on 32 and 10, arresting men after they said they can go and apparent tresspassing although we did nothing buti
v33x [23:44:36] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 drive along
v33x [23:44:56] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 We didn't intend to do anything the cop has abused his powers.
v33x [23:45:23] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 President?
v33x [23:45:46] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 You can demote Via /Demote (ID E.g 10) (Reason e.g Abuse)
v33x [23:46:54] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 We didn't intend to do anything the cop has abused his powers.
v33x [23:47:05] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Demote on 37 and 10
v33x [23:47:15] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Demote on 32 and 10, arresting men after they said they can go and apparent tresspassing although we did nothing buti
v33x [23:48:38] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 you blind bat! REPLY! HE IS ABUSING HIS COP POWERS.
v33x [23:48:48] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /PM 27 Demote on 32
v33x [23:49:02] LBJASTFO42512 (STEAM_0:0:130498036) said: /pm Blurr demote 32 ok
v33x [23:49:40] LBJASTFO42512 (STEAM_0:0:130498036) said: /pm blurr i cant find a '32'
v33x [23:49:55] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 23 He is called Oobrius
v33x [23:50:04] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 He is called Oobrius
v33x [23:50:17] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /PM 27 He has arrested me for standing near a car.
v33x [23:51:09] Blurr (STEAM_0:0:68019350) said: /pm 27 Can you now demote Oobrius aka 32 he arrested my friend randomly me randomly and Doc will soon be arrested


I'd like to see the video(s) they had supposedly recorded to assess their actions in the matter, as theirs was done via voice communication as opposed to typing.
Yeah if we could get them to post videos that'd be great.
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Dec 30, 2015, 10:04 PM
Approved.

LBJASTFO42512 should have have checked with the officers involved and the situation before demoting them instead of following the directions of 16 PMs from a single individual.

A 2 hour blacklist from President will be issued.




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