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Military Historian - Operation Market Garden
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Oct 1, 2015, 10:28 PM
Hello, I am a Military Historian studying the First Great War and the Second Great War and I am currently researching a bit into the Vietnam War. I'm going to share some information I have researched recently about something, an operation during the Second Great War.

                                                                                                    Operation Market Garden
Operation Market Garden was a mission taken up by the Americans, British and Polish. Their mission was to take Arnhem and secure surrounding bridges in the Netherlands. Taking the bridge of Arnhem was supposed to stop Germany from pushing reinforcements across into the Netherlands. The British had pushed up to Arnhem shortly after a big drop of airborne troops had landed, 25,000 British Soldiers (correct me if I'm wrong). The British soon pushed up to Arnhem and took the bridge, they were supposed to hold it for four days awaiting XXX Corps to arrive which was an armoured division, they had taken a bit of as battering in a previous battle pushing up to the bridge so they thought it'd be too dangerous to enter Arnhem so they waited outside. As XXX Corps were pushing over a bridge to get to Arnhem the Germans weren't very good with explosives. They had set a fuse on all the support beams of a bridge they were crossing but the fuse failed and the armoured division safely made it across. The British held the bridge for longer than 4 days and the Germans attempted to make the British surrender. They kept pushing armoured troops over the bridge so they would soon run out of P.I.A.T ammunition. The P.I.A.T gun was a fairly short ranged weapon which was pretty powerful. Ammunition drops were found by German soldiers and it left the British to surrender as they had no ammo to fight with. Operation Market Garden was a failure. Today the bridge is named John Frost Bridge or John Frostbrug in Dutch because John Frost was the last man to be fighting on the bridge when he was shot in the shoulder and was injured and captured by Germans, he was taken to a German Hospital and was soon released later.
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That's about all I know currently, I am still studying more about it though. I also heard that after the operation they decided to bomb the bridge? I am unsure of that though. A good film which will help is "A Bridge Too Far".
If I am wrong anyway please correct me below.
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Oct 2, 2015, 01:31 AM
It's pretty accurate, but there's a lot more info you could be adding here. Maybe you could learn something too, because your post actually expanded my knowledge aswell.

When I was young, I played this game called Call of Duty 2. Ever since then, I fell in love with learning WW2 history. Here's what I know about Market Garden.

In terms of the mission objective, Market Garden was going successful until they got up into Arnhem. It was very bloody along the dubbed Hell's Highway. Arnhem proved difficult to grasp, and after over a week of fighting, Operation Berlin commenced, and that's when they (the airborne) were high-tailed out of there.

I've never heard that Op. Market Garden was commenced to hold the Germans from advancing, this is because when the German 6rd Army, all 300,000 of them, were wiped off of the map in Stalingrad, the Germans were then on the defensive, with the western allies moving on their left and bottom flanks, as well as the gargantuan Soviet army on the east. I don't really see why they would be advancing into The Netherlands.
Instead, I've learned that they were plotting to move over the Rhine eventually, and into the Ruhr Valley, which is actually very smart because this was a major site for German industry. Further damaging Ruhr Valley, even after Operation Chastise and the previous bombing missions, made this an excellent target.

What marked the defeat of the Allies in this operation to me was the Bombing of Eindhoven. I first learned about this in the HBO series "Band of Brothers", and historically they showed this VERY accurately. The allies liberated Eindhoven, and the entire population partied throughout the night. As the allies leave Eindhoven, it is bombed. Casualties were enormous, and the shelter took a direct hit, which killed many of the hiding individuals.

You seem to focus on Arnhem, and from what I am reading it's pretty accurate. Good job!, and good on you for further holding onto History.

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Oct 2, 2015, 03:18 AM
ide like to sit down with you in teamspeak and talk about the war, i love (like studying and shit, slaying bodies is for the present day) war, I have always been an avid person for wwii and just started a wwii class in my school. nice write up!
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Oct 2, 2015, 04:55 AM
(Oct 2, 2015, 03:18 AM)sr603 link Wrote:ide like to sit down with you in teamspeak and talk about the war, i love (like studying and shit, slaying bodies is for the present day) war, I have always been an avid person for wwii and just started a wwii class in my school. nice write up!

You.. have a class specializing in WW2?

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Yes, there is world war 2 studies and also holocaust studies. I never took holocaust because I never had as much as an interest in it.
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Oct 2, 2015, 08:05 PM
(Oct 2, 2015, 01:31 AM)jarz link Wrote: I first learned about this in the HBO series "Band of Brothers", and historically they showed this VERY accurately.
In my opinion the best film to watch on Operation Market Garden is A Bridge Too Far.
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