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ChriseygamingYT blacklist appeal for "police officer"
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#1
May 26, 2020, 09:56 PM
Your Name:ChriseygamingYT

Issued by: [font=Roboto, sans-serif][L²] Goigle[/font]

Blacklist ID: 80358

Server: LIVE

Why should you be unblacklisted?: I did not get a say in the blacklist before now and 10.9 is to search a property not a car/van
Chrisey Vice|A-391 : NYPD police officer (ALIVE)
Linus Downing : Bum taxi driver just looking money (ALIVE)
Dr. Mike Vice : EMS saving Southsides lives and brother to Chrisey Vice (ALIVE)
Marty McFly : Lost time traveller stuck in 2015 Limelight (DECEASED)
James Share : A C.S.I agent working for the NYPD (Missing May be [font=Roboto, sans-serif]DECEASED[font=Roboto, sans-serif]) [/font]
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Mike Hunt : Police dispatch (ALIVE BUT NEVER SEEN)
John Web : The mayor of Southside (ALIVE)
Frank Downing : Lead of the Mayors protection (Missing) 
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2020, 10:00 PM by ChriseygamingYT. Edited 1 time in total.)
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May 26, 2020, 09:56 PM
The staff-members have received your unblacklist-request, ChriseygamingYT.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.
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May 26, 2020, 10:05 PM
(May 26, 2020, 09:56 PM)Limelight Gaming Wrote: The staff-members have received your unblacklist-request, ChriseygamingYT.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.

ok
Chrisey Vice|A-391 : NYPD police officer (ALIVE)
Linus Downing : Bum taxi driver just looking money (ALIVE)
Dr. Mike Vice : EMS saving Southsides lives and brother to Chrisey Vice (ALIVE)
Marty McFly : Lost time traveller stuck in 2015 Limelight (DECEASED)
James Share : A C.S.I agent working for the NYPD (Missing May be [font=Roboto, sans-serif]DECEASED[font=Roboto, sans-serif]) [/font]
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Mike Hunt : Police dispatch (ALIVE BUT NEVER SEEN)
John Web : The mayor of Southside (ALIVE)
Frank Downing : Lead of the Mayors protection (Missing) 
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May 27, 2020, 03:10 PM
While I won't be concluding this, as it is @goigle's case, quite frankly I'm astounded that you only received a blacklist, as opposed to an exploiting ban and a lengthy blacklist for 10.3, with my opinion not just that the blacklist was valid, but the punishment wasn't enough and should be extended.
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May 27, 2020, 04:20 PM
I didn't give you a say because you had to go pretty soon after I left and frankly what you did was unquestionably against the rules. This is not a grey situation where maybe you had a reason or anything like that.

First, to start out, when I joined the server all 4 people were asking for staff help and it was clear some malarkey was happening. You even apparently self-reported for metagaming:

Quote:ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said "@ 9 did failRP"
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said "@ and i was matagaming"
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said ".// and i did @ messages and i put myself under the bus in the @'s"

Pretty soon after you join we were all talking and one mentioned you /me'd finds weed under the seat to arrest someone. I told you that was powergaming and you said you had to go and left. I was willing to leave it at a verbal warning initially,  but as I went through the logs I realized some things that people forgot to mention.

You were getting a search warrant on every car you stopped and illegally searching them:

Quote:[23:32:58]
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
used command "warrant 9 search we always do this"

You even put the reason as "we always do this."

Let's circle back to a traffic stop from earlier. After you left, I forgot who it was (Dutch or Duckie?) told me you used a search warrant to instantly install emergency lighting on their vehicle and arrest them:


Quote:ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said "/warrant 11 search may have something in the car "
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
used command "me grabs the ford badge and it looks like it can be taken off"
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said "/me takes the badge and find 10g of coke"
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said "/me opens hood and plugs in his computer and finds it is registered to ... Chrisey Vice"
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
used command "inventory veh_pwl use 1" <-- this is red/blue lighting on vehicles
ChriseygamingYT
(STEAM_0:0:460070883)
said "/me finds red and ble lights"

So, doing that is both 3.3 and 3.4. You can't just magically install an emergency lighting package on a car, and that's also technically an exploit. Please note the finding the car is registered to you and the 10g of coke under the badge were both powergaming as well.

With all things considered, I was actually rather lenient. You were upsetting the other players so I had to take an action.

As to 10.9 referring to property: the intent of the rule is clear. You need probable cause for a search warrant. Cars are property. Even if that rule did not exist you would have been blacklisted for 3.3 and 3.4.

If you fell for it, you're legally obligated to give me a +rep.         [Image: s7Y0Ioo.png]
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2020, 04:30 PM by goigle. Edited 3 times in total.)
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#6
May 28, 2020, 03:59 AM
With the above in mind, I am gonna conclude this as the blacklist is valid and lenient at best

If you fell for it, you're legally obligated to give me a +rep.         [Image: s7Y0Ioo.png]




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