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#16
Aug 26, 2018, 08:35 PM
(Aug 26, 2018, 08:12 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Aug 26, 2018, 07:25 PM)Apex Wrote:
(Aug 26, 2018, 06:50 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote: Roleplay? You straight up demoted the whole police force, including the ones which just joined the job.
Which was part of the rp. I'm sorry you drew the short straw this time; Just think about how many people have drawn the short straw in your other roleplays. Such is life.

So this is your justification for demoting the whole force for no reason? Legit stuff.
No, this is my response to you being disproportionately outraged. 

I won't be responding from this point forward unless the staff have any questions as it's entirely fruitless when you are so upset.
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Aug 27, 2018, 10:04 AM
What was the reason for the demotions?
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Aug 27, 2018, 05:20 PM
(Aug 27, 2018, 10:04 AM)Overlewd Wrote: What was the reason for the demotions?

This is going of pure memory, so don't expect a 100% solid timeline. Maybe check the logs and let me know if I get mixed up at any point.

Called a meeting in the town hall, there were some major issues in short and it ended in a shootout from within between police/swat/random gang.

The police were trying to arrest and murder people with valid passes, and arresting swat, etc.

Rocket was unfortunately demoted as I wasn't aware he had just joined, however I felt it necessary to wipe the entire PD upon the advisory notes from my head SSA agent.

It should also be noted I was roleplaying a foolish and over zealous president at the time, consuming large amounts of alcohol and making ridiculous public pledges in the public address I gave (Such as paving all the highways with cobble stones, giving the police fighter jets, etc).

This was all part of the parcel of the roleplay and it got out of hand very quickly however I feel in relation to my persona at the time, and the situation the demotions were justified.

I do apologize to rocket as he appears to have been caught up in one wacky ride of a roleplay.
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Aug 27, 2018, 06:08 PM
(Aug 27, 2018, 05:20 PM)Apex Wrote:
(Aug 27, 2018, 10:04 AM)Overlewd Wrote: What was the reason for the demotions?

This is going of pure memory, so don't expect a 100% solid timeline. Maybe check the logs and let me know if I get mixed up at any point.

Called a meeting in the town hall, there were some major issues in short and it ended in a shootout from within between police/swat/random gang.

Your speech was without any issues, despite the gang which you allowed to wear heavy weapons made bullshit with some chairs. After the speech was over one of the gang guys shot at a SWAT officer so we returned fire. He got killed.

The police were trying to arrest and murder people with valid passes, and arresting swat, etc.

Arrest and murder? We've tried to arrest 2 heavily armed persons. You then told us to arrest every single person at the town hall which was not a police officer at this time, INCLUDING a paramedic. We've refused ofcourse. Then your smart VP got shot by 2 officers because he wanted to test his Prius and told a officer to open fire or fear demotion. The vice then died and I demoted the officer. Simple.
There was no corruption, no random arrests or random murders. Only you giving out stupid orders and leting a heavily armed gang into the town hall.


Rocket was unfortunately demoted as I wasn't aware he had just joined, however I felt it necessary to wipe the entire PD upon the advisory notes from my head SSA agent.

Ah yeah, the Secret Service. The one with "SS Hauptmann" as his job name. Seems like a great source for advises.

It should also be noted I was roleplaying a foolish and over zealous president at the time, consuming large amounts of alcohol and making ridiculous public pledges in the public address I gave (Such as paving all the highways with cobble stones, giving the police fighter jets, etc).

You were simply doing bullshit.

This was all part of the parcel of the roleplay and it got out of hand very quickly however I feel in relation to my persona at the time, and the situation the demotions were justified.
I do apologize to rocket as he appears to have been caught up in one wacky ride of a roleplay.

There were multiple officers which were new to the force.
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Aug 27, 2018, 06:31 PM
(Aug 27, 2018, 06:08 PM)Nudelsalat im Panzer Wrote:
(Aug 27, 2018, 05:20 PM)Apex Wrote:
(Aug 27, 2018, 10:04 AM)Overlewd Wrote: What was the reason for the demotions?

This is going of pure memory, so don't expect a 100% solid timeline. Maybe check the logs and let me know if I get mixed up at any point.

Called a meeting in the town hall, there were some major issues in short and it ended in a shootout from within between police/swat/random gang.

Your speech was without any issues, despite the gang which you allowed to wear heavy weapons made bullshit with some chairs. After the speech was over one of the gang guys shot at a SWAT officer so we returned fire. He got killed.

The police were trying to arrest and murder people with valid passes, and arresting swat, etc.

Arrest and murder? We've tried to arrest 2 heavily armed persons. You then told us to arrest every single person at the town hall which was not a police officer at this time, INCLUDING a paramedic. We've refused ofcourse. Then your smart VP got shot by 2 officers because he wanted to test his Prius and told a officer to open fire or fear demotion. The vice then died and I demoted the officer. Simple.
There was no corruption, no random arrests or random murders. Only you giving out stupid orders and leting a heavily armed gang into the town hall.


Rocket was unfortunately demoted as I wasn't aware he had just joined, however I felt it necessary to wipe the entire PD upon the advisory notes from my head SSA agent.

Ah yeah, the Secret Service. The one with "SS Hauptmann" as his job name. Seems like a great source for advises.

It should also be noted I was roleplaying a foolish and over zealous president at the time, consuming large amounts of alcohol and making ridiculous public pledges in the public address I gave (Such as paving all the highways with cobble stones, giving the police fighter jets, etc).

You were simply doing bullshit.

This was all part of the parcel of the roleplay and it got out of hand very quickly however I feel in relation to my persona at the time, and the situation the demotions were justified.
I do apologize to rocket as he appears to have been caught up in one wacky ride of a roleplay.

There were multiple officers which were new to the force.
That's your opinion, and I respect it. However it's just that...an opinion from someone who didn't even know what the roleplay was about until now.
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Aug 27, 2018, 07:47 PM
Also, I fail to see how demoting the police force for what I perceive to be a valid reason is anything but a IC issue.

Clearly you agree with me on this as you felt the need to raid me instead of contacting an admin.

@"Nudelsalat im Panzer" I appreciate you are emotionally involved but could you please calm down with your replies / comments? Coming across as very aggressive and immature. 
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Aug 28, 2018, 01:05 PM
(Aug 27, 2018, 07:47 PM)Apex Wrote: Also, I fail to see how demoting the police force for what I perceive to be a valid reason is anything but a IC issue.

Not if its failRP.

Clearly you agree with me on this as you felt the need to raid me instead of contacting an admin.

Rocket and me made several @calls. How do you think he received the logs? I've never raided you. That was the remaining SWAT team. I got demoted twice in 30 seconds by you and then switched to the afk job. If you still think that I've raided for, please do me a favor and make a PR with solid evidence of me raiding you.

@"Nudelsalat im Panzer" I appreciate you are emotionally involved but could you please calm down with your replies / comments? Coming across as very aggressive and immature. 

I am totally fine pal.
I won't reply anymore unless a staff member requests it. I've said everything.
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Sep 5, 2018, 12:33 PM
Approved.

Can't be certain of validity of the other demotes but you need to be sure everyone you are demoting deserves to be demoted not just decide "lol im gonna demote the entire force" and start spamming demotions.
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