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Jun 10, 2018, 06:47 PM
The staff-members have received your unban-request, Brennan.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed.
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Jun 11, 2018, 04:08 AM
Under review.
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Jun 13, 2018, 01:47 PM
The rule was not clarified, it was changed. What wasn't regarded as FearRP then (being visibly armed regardless of safety mode) is now an addition to the rule. An addition that did not exist when this punishment was issued.

Although the rules have been updated, you were still in violation of the rule set enforced at that time.
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Jun 14, 2018, 03:46 PM
As Nacreas pointed out, this was not something that was clarified, but a rule was changed in regards to fearRP. Therefore, you broke fearRP, and the ban is valid where you were found guilty for breaking the rules which existed then.
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Jun 17, 2018, 05:02 AM
Brennan do you have anything else you wish to add to your appeal?
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Jun 17, 2018, 09:56 AM
Will reply later on currently unable to reply due to work commitments
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Jun 18, 2018, 02:30 PM
The only point that I can add is that I fail to see how its a change to the rule when the same principle of FearRP exists today. However I agree this is an addition to the rules, there is no arguing that point. 

The addition didn't exist at the time I was banned however, I still believe at the time I was banned this was a grey area. It can be seen on the player report that different administrators had varying opinions on this, I don't believe that this scenario had a unanimous opinion amongst the staff team. I'm arguing this ban because at the time, there was no clear rule that stated what I did was wrong. I was banned because of peoples opinion and interpretation of a rule that didn't clearly define what I did was wrong. 

I believe this addition to the rule set -even though it didn't exist at the time- removes the grey area of my offence. This addition to the rule set didn't contradict any rule before it, the addition simply clarified the rule.

When this addition was added it the post that accompanied it read

Quote:Hello community! I am glad to announce that after internal discussion it was decided to make adjustments to the current ruleset on the server to help fill any common grey areas that often cause issued and misunderstandings, particularly with our newer players. If you are fairly experienced with the gamemode you will find that most of these things have been enforced for a long time and not much has changed.
This post suggests that these additions were added to avoid grey areas such as the one we are now discussing. If the ruleset was adjusted so that incidents like this don't occur then I don't see why my ban can’t be wiped if the point of this adjustment was to prevent it from ever happening in the first place.
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Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 PM
Being visibly armed (regardless of safety mode) was not an application of FearRP, it is now.

It didn't exist then because it has been added, not changed.

Denied. Thank you for your appeal.
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