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PR - razor boy
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May 8, 2017, 04:48 PM
Name of Player: razor boy (and u know)


SteamID: STEAM_0:1:79223676

Server: v41b - EvoCity - CityRP 2

Time: (In UTC+0) around 14:30

Summary: Broken rules: FailRP (mugging as wealthy corleone - no reason to mug)
                                         RDM (no reason to kill me - I was about to pay)
Sadly I started the recording after they got in so I don't have the first part but: They get out of their car and shout "Why haven't you payed your protection money?" (we didn't have any contracrt or similar) I ask them thing like "Protection Money? For what?" (you can see that in the logs) When they get their guns out I tell to get out and he shoots once. Then he asks me for 500$ "protection money" (mugging). The rest is on the video I think.

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May 8, 2017, 04:48 PM
Thank you for your player-report, Rizion.

It will take a while for it to be reviewed by our staff-members.
Meanwhile, the accused player and witnesses may reply to this report.
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May 8, 2017, 09:33 PM
FailRP (mugging as wealthy corleone - no reason to mug) Not mugging, running a racket - That's what the mafia does
RDM (no reason to kill me - I was about to pay) You were never going to pay, even after I kneecapped you prior to the video you continued to act as if you couldn't hear me so I killed you? The server logs will back this up.

Do you think acting clever towards a mafia is going to get you anywhere?

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I asked him to step inside
Discussed protection
He was acting cocky so I showed him my firearm
He kept doing the forward command pointing towards the door telling me to get out <Did not listen to my commands when I had a firearm>
I raised my gun and told him to get into the back
He started talking about staff and pretending he couldn't understand me spamming the same thing in the chat
I kneecapped him to let him know the severity of the situation and yet he continued to ignore me (Not shown in the video)
Then I killed him

What else could I have done in this situation? I shot you in the kneecap for disrespecting me and my friends, yet you continue to do so after the fact, you clearly didn't value your life and you got yourself killed.

Do you expect me to let you live after shooting you and being disrespected by you. Police exist on this server and they would arrest me and my men. Why leave a witness?
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May 8, 2017, 09:57 PM
(May 8, 2017, 09:33 PM)akne Wrote: I asked him to step inside You mean you took a gun out and forced me inside without me beeing a threat or refusing your actions, etc. 
Discussed protection All he said was "500" - That also why I asked "500 what?"
He was acting cocky so I showed him my firearm I think I don't have to commentate this...
He kept doing the forward command pointing towards the door telling me to get out <Did not listen to my commands when I had a firearm> You never told me to stop doing that or similar and your I think your gun was in safety as well
I raised my gun and told him to get into the back 
He started talking about staff and pretending he couldn't understand me spamming the same thing in the chat I talked about the fact that the room in the back is for staff only so we wouldn't be allowed to enter
I kneecapped him to let him know the severity of the situation and yet he continued to ignore me (Not shown in the video) 
Then I killed him But why? Because I shouted "Ahhhhhhh" trough the city after you shot my knee.

What else could I have done in this situation? I shot you in the kneecap for disrespecting me and my friends, yet you continue to do so after the fact, you clearly didn't value your life and you got yourself killed. When did I disrespect you? I just told some guys with guns to get out of my store. Also: Would you kill someone for disrespecting you in real life? Not really, huh?
 
Do you expect me to let you live after shooting you and being disrespected by you. Police exist on this server and they would arrest me and my men. Why leave a witness?

To conclude my statemant: You didn't even try to RP - You think saying "500" is RP? (imo it's clearly mugging as well)
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May 8, 2017, 10:33 PM
If this is your reply, post the entire video. A weapon in safety is a weapon and you still have to follow FearRP. I did not just say 500, you repeated one phrase out of an entire confrontation, I had a weapon to your face and you did not listen to any command, I knee capped you, you didn't go into the back, I kneecapped you again, you didn't go into the back and instead walked towards me so I shot you.

You say you told me it was staff only. You actually said: "But ti's staff online"
Even if the back area was staff only, I had a weapon pointed at your face and you ignored me 3 times and paid the price.

Also read your job title lol.
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(May 8, 2017, 10:33 PM)akne Wrote: If this is your reply, post the entire video. A weapon in safety is a weapon and you still have to follow FearRP. I did not just say 500, you repeated one phrase out of an entire confrontation, I had a weapon to your face and you did not listen to any command, I knee capped you, you didn't go into the back, I kneecapped you again, you didn't go into the back and instead walked towards me so I shot you. The footage I uploaded is all I have. Also: A weapon is safety is only FearRP if you threatened me with it before. Or do you always put your hands up if officers/secret service run around with rifles in safety? All you said was "500" and when I ask you "500 what?" You said "500 protection money". What were your commands? "500" is no command for me. In the end of the video you can clearly see that I'm in the back of the store so don't lie!

You say you told me it was staff only. You actually said: "But ti's staff online"
Even if the back area was staff only, I had a weapon pointed at your face and you ignored me 3 times and paid the price. I said "It's staff online" first but I corrected myself 1 second later "*only"
Again: In the video you can see that I'm in the back of the store.


Also read your job title lol. What's wrong with my job?
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May 9, 2017, 07:25 AM
Also: You get protection money from shop owners - You could never know that I'm a shop owner as you found me outside my shop and I wasn't inside my package van or similar so it was clearly META-Gaming as well.
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May 9, 2017, 02:22 PM
(May 9, 2017, 07:22 AM)Rizion Wrote:
(May 8, 2017, 10:33 PM)akne Wrote: "In the end of the video you can clearly see that I'm in the back of the store so don't lie!"

False: [Image: 6b113ed8a93224259569fc48a5cd7cc6.png]

You ignored me 3 times, on the 3rd you decided to challenge me and died for it.

I don't feel I have to argue any further, you clearly do not know the rules regarding FearRP and your video does not show the entire confrontation, only you being killed.
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May 9, 2017, 02:31 PM
You always only respond to a part of my post.
What do you say to META?
What do you say to the fact that you mugged as Corleone?
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May 12, 2017, 12:35 AM
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Closing Notes: Although the player shows some skill in extortion RP (Even had a guy guarding the door) the killing at the end is invalid. You are attempting to make money as a Corleone member, not shoot anyone who doesn't agree with you. If he doesn't pay the money, molotov the building or shoot it. The protection money is for the STORE, so if you kill the owner, you have no more possible profit. Remember this is a RP server. Not all negotiations have to be done with a gun to the head.

When you shot him, all Fearp was voided at that time. He could've ran out and screamed. No fearp was broken by the victim.

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